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$10,000
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TeT said:
The real advice for me here is "buy the flashes new". Coming from a pro, I am confident it is good advice.
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no point spending all that money to stay home and post gear pics in forums...
if accounting for what I have already - maybe a larger gear bag, a couple extra batteries for my g1x2(backup camera), and spend the rest in a vacation in either Iceland or New Zealand
if starting from nothing, pretty much same as above, but no large bag - so, G1X2, evf, 4 batteries, a cpl filter plus adapter and a travel tripod - still less than 2k - camping in Iceland or New Zealand becomes a must
if accounting for what I have already - maybe a larger gear bag, a couple extra batteries for my g1x2(backup camera), and spend the rest in a vacation in either Iceland or New Zealand
if starting from nothing, pretty much same as above, but no large bag - so, G1X2, evf, 4 batteries, a cpl filter plus adapter and a travel tripod - still less than 2k - camping in Iceland or New Zealand becomes a must
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that1guyy said:
It seems that many took it that way. Well, that wasn't really the point. There are other ways to focus on quality as some have already demonstrated.
But when it comes to quantity over quality like some suggest, I have to admit that my thinking is that unfortunately people are entitled to their wrong opinions. The same goes for photos: 1 good photo is better than a pile of bad photos.
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$10,000 in "fun" money to spend on Canon - spring 2014
2,800 for 5DMkiii
1,200 for 24mm f1.4L
400 for 50mm f1.4
400 for 85mm f1.8
1,200 for 70-200 f4.0L is
300 for 2x converter
150 for Lowepro Retrospective 50 or Domke F2
50 for batteries
3500 on account for "new" stuff I discover I "need"
2,800 for 5DMkiii
1,200 for 24mm f1.4L
400 for 50mm f1.4
400 for 85mm f1.8
1,200 for 70-200 f4.0L is
300 for 2x converter
150 for Lowepro Retrospective 50 or Domke F2
50 for batteries
3500 on account for "new" stuff I discover I "need"
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I also find it very funny that so much people would still buy so much crap for that shitload of money..
People should try to learn with less first and look for better quality.
I would buy for sure :
5DmkIII (Have it now)
FD 85 1.2 and convert it to EF (As I have now) - Because I think this lens is much better than the 85 L 1.2 II (but manual)
50 1.4 ART when it comes out (Have the older 50 1.4 from Sigma)
100mm Macro L IS USM 2.8 (because I have still more than half of the money over)
At that point, I don't know if I would need more cause I only shoot people.
But if I really need to spend all the money I would buy the most I have now next to it :
16-35
70-200 L IS II
Sigma 35
OR !!!
I would buy me an Analogue Hassy and buy a digital leaf 40MP + 80mm lens
OR !!!
5DmkIII with the 50 1.0 + 85 1.2
People should try to learn with less first and look for better quality.
I would buy for sure :
5DmkIII (Have it now)
FD 85 1.2 and convert it to EF (As I have now) - Because I think this lens is much better than the 85 L 1.2 II (but manual)
50 1.4 ART when it comes out (Have the older 50 1.4 from Sigma)
100mm Macro L IS USM 2.8 (because I have still more than half of the money over)
At that point, I don't know if I would need more cause I only shoot people.
But if I really need to spend all the money I would buy the most I have now next to it :
16-35
70-200 L IS II
Sigma 35
OR !!!
I would buy me an Analogue Hassy and buy a digital leaf 40MP + 80mm lens
OR !!!
5DmkIII with the 50 1.0 + 85 1.2
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And this gets back to "what are you going to shoot" but I haven't seen too many filters on the list. Say a couple of CPLs, ND, grad ND filters?
I would go 5DIII (~$3000) if you need the AF points (action shots/personal preference), 6D (~$1,800) if you are primarily a causal or landscape shooter.
I'd go 24-105 (~$600) if you shoot mostly landscape and well lit scenes, or 24-70 II (~$2,100) if you shoot in lower light more often/prefer natural light photograph/tend to obsess about having the "best." If you are mostly well lit/outdoor scenes with the occasional natural indoor light photography, the 24-105 plus a prime or two (see below) should be a good combo.
I'd go 70-200 f/2.8 II ($2,100) if you shoot indoors or the 70-200 f/4 IS (~$1,200) if primarily outdoors.
Think about adding a 1.4xTC/2x TC ($500 each).
If you shoot birds/wildlife I would be adding the 100-400L ($1,600), 400 f/5.6 ($1,200), or the recent Tamron 150-600 (($1,069).
A nice set of reasonably fast primes are always good, Rokinon/Samyang 14 f/2.8 UMC is a good lens to give you an ultrawide/nightscape option for $300. But ultrawide is a beast of its own. To stay on a budget I'd likely go Sigma 50 f/1.4 Art ($950; to be released, but initial reviews are good with a potential AF consistency issue) or Canon 50 f/1.4 ($300) to start. Then figure out which scenarios you need primes and add from there. The EF 100 mm f/2.8 IS L Macro is great ($900).
Then at least one flash, the Canon 600 EX RT ($450).
Then I'd save at least $1,500 for gear you identify down the road, $500 for accessories such as a good pack/bag (Lowepro Flipside 400 AW is a good choice, ~$70 off ebay), $800 for filters (clear/UV to protect your front elements, CPL and then ND filters as needed), and $300-$600 for a mid-range carbon fiber tripod and ballhead. You may want to consider a smaller camera for when you don't want to carry this around, but I am going to assume you already have that.
Overall, I think people would gravitate toward calling the 5DIII, 24-70 f/2.8 II, 70-200 f/2.8 II, 2xTC, 600 EX RT, with B+W 77 mm and 82 mm CPL/007 filters as the "ultimate" basic kit, supplemented with a few primes, as needed. That is ~$8,500 without any primes, tripods, backpacks, macro lenses, "super tele" etc. But, a heckuva place to start, and perhaps finish.
So, it depends on what you want to shoot, but you can spend $10,000 remarkably fast. I am on a multi year plan. Each year I spend ~$2k adding to my kit. That will change as soon as I add a big white.
Good luck.
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Oops, my bad...I just realized this was a hypothetical and not an actual question....but what I would do is what I have done and is pretty closely outlined above.
I would go 5DIII (~$3000) if you need the AF points (action shots/personal preference), 6D (~$1,800) if you are primarily a causal or landscape shooter.
I'd go 24-105 (~$600) if you shoot mostly landscape and well lit scenes, or 24-70 II (~$2,100) if you shoot in lower light more often/prefer natural light photograph/tend to obsess about having the "best." If you are mostly well lit/outdoor scenes with the occasional natural indoor light photography, the 24-105 plus a prime or two (see below) should be a good combo.
I'd go 70-200 f/2.8 II ($2,100) if you shoot indoors or the 70-200 f/4 IS (~$1,200) if primarily outdoors.
Think about adding a 1.4xTC/2x TC ($500 each).
If you shoot birds/wildlife I would be adding the 100-400L ($1,600), 400 f/5.6 ($1,200), or the recent Tamron 150-600 (($1,069).
A nice set of reasonably fast primes are always good, Rokinon/Samyang 14 f/2.8 UMC is a good lens to give you an ultrawide/nightscape option for $300. But ultrawide is a beast of its own. To stay on a budget I'd likely go Sigma 50 f/1.4 Art ($950; to be released, but initial reviews are good with a potential AF consistency issue) or Canon 50 f/1.4 ($300) to start. Then figure out which scenarios you need primes and add from there. The EF 100 mm f/2.8 IS L Macro is great ($900).
Then at least one flash, the Canon 600 EX RT ($450).
Then I'd save at least $1,500 for gear you identify down the road, $500 for accessories such as a good pack/bag (Lowepro Flipside 400 AW is a good choice, ~$70 off ebay), $800 for filters (clear/UV to protect your front elements, CPL and then ND filters as needed), and $300-$600 for a mid-range carbon fiber tripod and ballhead. You may want to consider a smaller camera for when you don't want to carry this around, but I am going to assume you already have that.
Overall, I think people would gravitate toward calling the 5DIII, 24-70 f/2.8 II, 70-200 f/2.8 II, 2xTC, 600 EX RT, with B+W 77 mm and 82 mm CPL/007 filters as the "ultimate" basic kit, supplemented with a few primes, as needed. That is ~$8,500 without any primes, tripods, backpacks, macro lenses, "super tele" etc. But, a heckuva place to start, and perhaps finish.
So, it depends on what you want to shoot, but you can spend $10,000 remarkably fast. I am on a multi year plan. Each year I spend ~$2k adding to my kit. That will change as soon as I add a big white.
Good luck.
Edit:
Oops, my bad...I just realized this was a hypothetical and not an actual question....but what I would do is what I have done and is pretty closely outlined above.
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sigh...jrista said:
That's why I decided not to start with astrophotography long ago and stayed satisfied (really?) with optical observations (yes, only sky
) through my 6" newton and some fine wide angle eyepieces.But when i see the pictures one could make...
sigh...
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5D3 ($2800)
Lenses - core of my kit would be 35/85 fast primes.
35mm 1.4 - $1100
85mm 1.2 II - $1800
Zooms to me, tend to be more useful at the wide and tele ends -
16-35 2.8 I - $950
70-200 2.8 II - $2000
1.4 and 2.0 TC - $1000
$400 for a small bag, filters, cards, batteries, etc.
Lenses - core of my kit would be 35/85 fast primes.
35mm 1.4 - $1100
85mm 1.2 II - $1800
Zooms to me, tend to be more useful at the wide and tele ends -
16-35 2.8 I - $950
70-200 2.8 II - $2000
1.4 and 2.0 TC - $1000
$400 for a small bag, filters, cards, batteries, etc.
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I think some folk here are forgetting the original brief laid out by the OP - to come up with a "Jack of all trades" kit with $10,000, not their wish list!
I think the problem here is that $10,000 is just too much. Let's try with just $1000
Used 60D + 18-135mm kit lens
Nifty fifty or shorty Mcforty brand new because they cost peanuts
Extension tubes of an ebay shop in HK
A Yongnuo flash or two (no trigger needed due to optical slave mode)
Used Manfrotto 190XPROB from someone who has realized they shoulda bought a carbon fibre one.
Some home made reflectors, snoots and grids.
A decent memory card and a spare battery.
And the rest on bus fare to get around.
I think the problem here is that $10,000 is just too much. Let's try with just $1000
Used 60D + 18-135mm kit lens
Nifty fifty or shorty Mcforty brand new because they cost peanuts
Extension tubes of an ebay shop in HK
A Yongnuo flash or two (no trigger needed due to optical slave mode)
Used Manfrotto 190XPROB from someone who has realized they shoulda bought a carbon fibre one.
Some home made reflectors, snoots and grids.
A decent memory card and a spare battery.
And the rest on bus fare to get around.
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I'm happy with my current kit, but here is an alternate one with all primes I could also be really happy with:
$2200 5D3 (used)
$5800 300mm 2.8 II (refurbished)
$550 35mm f/2 IS
$1000 100mm f/2.8L Macro
$300 14mm 2.8 Rokinon/Samyang
This would not leave anything for speedlites, tripods, carrying cases, filters, etc. So, would probably have to drop one or more of the inexpensive lenses to buy those.
$2200 5D3 (used)
$5800 300mm 2.8 II (refurbished)
$550 35mm f/2 IS
$1000 100mm f/2.8L Macro
$300 14mm 2.8 Rokinon/Samyang
This would not leave anything for speedlites, tripods, carrying cases, filters, etc. So, would probably have to drop one or more of the inexpensive lenses to buy those.
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BLFPhoto
Canon EOS user since '91...
1DX
16-35L f/2.8
Two more Einsteins w/Paul Buff Pocket Wizard trigger modules (For a total of 5 in my kit)
Or bank the $10k and wait for the remaining funds for the 200-400L
Either way, my needs are pretty narrow at this point...along the lines of gold plating the hammer.
16-35L f/2.8
Two more Einsteins w/Paul Buff Pocket Wizard trigger modules (For a total of 5 in my kit)
Or bank the $10k and wait for the remaining funds for the 200-400L
Either way, my needs are pretty narrow at this point...along the lines of gold plating the hammer.
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I've been thinking about this one for awhile...
If I had to start completely all over with $10k of new camera gear (not including computer equipment) for my current job (travel and lifestyle photo/video) then I'd go with the following:
Basic kit:
2 x Canon 70D with battery grips and spare batteries
EFS 17-55 f2.8 IS
EF 70-200 f2.8 II IS
Job specific items:
Elinchrom D-Lite Rx 2x400 watt second kit with the softboxes and wireless transmitter
Elinchrom Beauty Dish
Flolight Microbeam kit with 3 LED lights
Sigma 18-35 f1.8
Canon EFS 10-22 f3.5-4.5
B&H's grand total is $9,906.98 and they throw in a few accessories (bags, SD cards, etc.). If I had the option, I'd wait for some major sales that way I can throw in a pair of 600 RTs with the transmitter for roughly the same price.
This would hold me over for awhile until I earned more revenue to upgrade or expand my kit.
If I had to start completely all over with $10k of new camera gear (not including computer equipment) for my current job (travel and lifestyle photo/video) then I'd go with the following:
Basic kit:
2 x Canon 70D with battery grips and spare batteries
EFS 17-55 f2.8 IS
EF 70-200 f2.8 II IS
Job specific items:
Elinchrom D-Lite Rx 2x400 watt second kit with the softboxes and wireless transmitter
Elinchrom Beauty Dish
Flolight Microbeam kit with 3 LED lights
Sigma 18-35 f1.8
Canon EFS 10-22 f3.5-4.5
B&H's grand total is $9,906.98 and they throw in a few accessories (bags, SD cards, etc.). If I had the option, I'd wait for some major sales that way I can throw in a pair of 600 RTs with the transmitter for roughly the same price.
This would hold me over for awhile until I earned more revenue to upgrade or expand my kit.
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Using local au prices, i'd probably go for
Canon 5d3 - $3385
Canon 70-200 2.8 II - $2425
Canon 17-40 - $789
Canon 24-70 II - $2279
Yongnuo 560III flash - $100
Fstop Loka bag - $450 approx
Memory Cards, spare battery - $200 approx
Should leave about $370 to spend on filters etc.
Canon 5d3 - $3385
Canon 70-200 2.8 II - $2425
Canon 17-40 - $789
Canon 24-70 II - $2279
Yongnuo 560III flash - $100
Fstop Loka bag - $450 approx
Memory Cards, spare battery - $200 approx
Should leave about $370 to spend on filters etc.
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6D - $1899
Used 7D - $800
70-300mm L - $1599
Rokinon 24mm - $550
Tamron 24-70 - $1299
Sigma 35mm - $899
135mm L - $1089
Benro A2692 - $220
Timbuk2 Medium Snoop Bag - $170
Leftover of $1475. I might spring for a Fuji X100s in this case if I had the money to burn. Or save for an RX1r.
Used 7D - $800
70-300mm L - $1599
Rokinon 24mm - $550
Tamron 24-70 - $1299
Sigma 35mm - $899
135mm L - $1089
Benro A2692 - $220
Timbuk2 Medium Snoop Bag - $170
Leftover of $1475. I might spring for a Fuji X100s in this case if I had the money to burn. Or save for an RX1r.
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BLFPhoto said:
What does this have to do with the OP?? Yes, you have spent $10k but how does one shoot an event or even a simple portrait session with only one UWA zoom lens? Two "more" Einsteins? We are starting from scratch! :
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Canon 6D: 1900$
Samyang 14mm 2.8: 400$
Zeiss 21mm 2.8: 1900$
Sigma 35mm 1.4: 900$
Sigma 50mm 1.4: 1000$
Helios 44-2 58mm 2: 50$
Canon 100mm 2.8L: 1050$
Zeiss 135mm 2: 2100$
Custom Split-Screen Focussing Screen: 100$
Bag, tripod, batterie, sd cards, filters: 600$
Samyang 14mm 2.8: 400$
Zeiss 21mm 2.8: 1900$
Sigma 35mm 1.4: 900$
Sigma 50mm 1.4: 1000$
Helios 44-2 58mm 2: 50$
Canon 100mm 2.8L: 1050$
Zeiss 135mm 2: 2100$
Custom Split-Screen Focussing Screen: 100$
Bag, tripod, batterie, sd cards, filters: 600$
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