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1D Mark IV versus 5D3

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1d mk iv or 5d mkiii?

Anyone seen these compared yet? I know .1d series have certain advantages, but the mk iii looks pretty Damn nice, so kinda wondering what might be a better upgrade from my 7d. I shoot mostly wildlife, purely for fun. I use a 70-200 2.8 is ii and a 300f4.
My other option is using that $ for a older 600f4 is and tripod. Advice?
 
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If you're dealing primarily with wildlife, I would say take a 1D4 over the 5D3. If nothing else, you have the speed (faster than 7D) and the 1.3x. Also, a pro-body allows you to work in really bad weather condition (shooting in the rain isn't a problem).

Of course, a 600mm is also nice - after all, an investment in lens is always worth it, if you use the lens often.
 
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Many times I think about 1D Mark IV vs. 5D Mark III

I am using the mark IV already for wildlife.
For some reason I always like the look of the 5D Mark II images more.
But the 5D Mark II is not that fast with frames and AF.

So now the 5D Mark III is faster and (on paper) has the same or even better AF than the Mark IV.


Well about the 1.3x sensor of the Mark IV:

Cropping the 5D Mark III to the 1.3 sensor size will give me 13MP vs 16mp of the Mark IV

BUT....

Here in the Netherlands we have more dark days than sunny days.
So by the looks of it the 5D Mark III will have better ISO performance than the Mark IV.

Still I have not made up my mind about this.

Edward van Altena
www.wildlife-photos.net
 
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If the 7D already does a good job of capturing wildlife, then I'd go for the 600mm. Glass is usually (always?) a better investment than a new body. Plus, you'll keep the advantage of the 1.6x crop (600mm * 1.6 = 960mm!!!).
 
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The one nice thing about the Mark IV is the F/8 autofocus so while you would lose some quality with a 2X teleconv you can still put it on your 300 and retain autofocus ~ 600mm F/8

Though I ditto the 600mm F/4 from investment from what I hear the superteles are niceeee
 
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I am really interested in the 5D Mark III....

So far I have not seen a crisp shot...
Is it the NR ??

I am thinking every day about swapping my mark IV for the 5D Mark III
But the images seen so far are not bad , but they all seem to miss some detail.

Edward
 
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DJL329 said:
If the 7D already does a good job of capturing wildlife, then I'd go for the 600mm. Glass is usually (always?) a better investment than a new body. Plus, you'll keep the advantage of the 1.6x crop (600mm * 1.6 = 960mm!!!).

1d4 +600 +2x = 1560mm!!
 
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Hi, new to these forums and happy to be aboard.

I too am unsure which to get.
Im new to pro / enthusiast photography and currently have a 7D.

My situation is that I seem to be falling into the world of press photography and im suffering from one camera body only.
I was all set to plonk down my hard earned $$$ towards the 5DIII when I realised 2nd hand 1D IV's can be had at the same price or a few hundred dollars less.

Im happy with the speed of the 7D so the 5 was seeming like a good compliment and will offer different styles of photography. But the 1D IV is such a beast.
I guess my question is will the 5DIII have vastly better image quality (I enjoy landscapes in my hobby time)

So now im all confused %-)
 
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Stubi said:
Hi, new to these forums and happy to be aboard.

I too am unsure which to get.
Im new to pro / enthusiast photography and currently have a 7D.

My situation is that I seem to be falling into the world of press photography and im suffering from one camera body only.
I was all set to plonk down my hard earned $$$ towards the 5DIII when I realised 2nd hand 1D IV's can be had at the same price or a few hundred dollars less.

Im happy with the speed of the 7D so the 5 was seeming like a good compliment and will offer different styles of photography. But the 1D IV is such a beast.
I guess my question is will the 5DIII have vastly better image quality (I enjoy landscapes in my hobby time)

So now im all confused %-)

1D4 pros : Weatherproofing, built in grip, 10fps, 1.3 crop
5DIII pros: 22mp, possibly AF,

The 1D4 gives very good IQ but the 16mp is a little limited when compared to 22mp, especially when cropping (this is based on my experience with the 1d4 and 1ds3)
 
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A good idea would be just to wait and see what kind of results people get with the AF on the 5DIII. If the AF is anywhere comparable, all you will need to see is whether you need the extra 4 FPS that the 1DIV has.
 
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@Stubi: if you're into press photography, I'd suggest you go the way of 1D4. For one thing, the extra FPS means the difference of having the shot or not having the shot; the other thing - shutter life (150,000 vs. 300,000). Of course, the extra crop factor allows you to get more distance out of your lenses.

Of course, the 1D body can take more beating than the 5D2 (especially when you're fighting for position with other press photographers/camera people, there's going to be a lot of pushing and shoving).
 
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A refurb 1D MK IV from Canon is only $500 more, (If you can jump on it when it appears).

It has slightly better super high ISO performance above ISO 6400 compared to my 5D MK II, obviously all the 1 series build and AF advantages.

The reason I've held back is:

1. In very low light, autofocus struggles.

2. The larger form factor gets pretty intrusive in some cases, and the smaller dslr's are more acceptable in some locations.

Still, its a very good buy and something I'd love to have.
 
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Mt Spokane Photography said:
A refurb 1D MK IV from Canon is only $500 more, (If you can jump on it when it appears).

It has slightly better super high ISO performance above ISO 6400 compared to my 5D MK II, obviously all the 1 series build and AF advantages.

The reason I've held back is:

1. In very low light, autofocus struggles.

2. The larger form factor gets pretty intrusive in some cases, and the smaller dslr's are more acceptable in some locations.

Still, its a very good buy and something I'd love to have.

I have found that 16mp a little on the small size for portraits etc
 
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Here is where i am at, it is a little complicated. Basically, here is my current setup:

A. 5D II - 16-35mm f2.8, 24-105mm f4
B. 1D II - 100-400mm f4.5-5.6, 85mm f1.8

Camera A uses the wide angle lenses, i prefer full frame but i don't mind a 1.3 crop.
Camera B uses the 100-400mm, i have to shoot from a far distance and i use this 80% of the time. Eventually i will buy the 70-200mm II possibly, but i just love my 100-400mm.

I am looking to sell my 5D II and either get the 5D III or 1D IV. I have the 5D III on preorder and have to decide if i should cancel it or not within this week.

I shoot outdoors in all kinds of weather and i have to be very quiet when i get close to the subject, so a silent shutter option on the first camera A would be a really really great feature. I also shoot inside a church where the shutter echoes so the quieter the better (live view is not an option, already thought of that).

My boss thinks megapixels doesn't matter, he doesn't mind my 8mp shots from the 1D II, he thinks weather sealing and newest features / best image quality is best, with emphasis on weather sealing.

So i probably should go with the 1D IV, but i would have to get it used which i would prefer not to do. If i go with the 5D III, if the weather sealing is good enough i could end up buying 2 of them and not upgrading my 1D II and just keep that as a back up.

And in regard to the 1D II, i need to upgrade that too ASAP. The camera is nice, but i REALLY need auto ISO. I have missed a lot of great shots because i didn't have this feature because of my high f-stop requirements of my 100-400mm lens and the crazy exposures it comes up with when zooming in really tight. Sometimes i'll be at 400 shutter speed and when i zoom into a bunch of people with dark outfits (this happens a lot) the shutter speed drops to 100 or slower, which will almost always be blurry if i don't catch it. Having auto iso jumping up to 1600 or preferably 3200-6400 would be a killer upgrade.

Lastly, i really love the 5D II. The images were amazing, but the poor weather sealing was NOT good. I shoot under an umbrella and there are shots that i have to get, and there is a lot of walking involved. In one heavy down poor and high humidity, my 5D II's LCD broke while my 40D survived much better in such weather. If the weather sealing has been greatly improved, i would happily buy the 5D III.


I am desperate for some advice, my boss is a nikon shooter and is very little help :(
 
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