1DsIII vs 5DIII + 1DIV vs 7DII (all used)

[Snzkgb]

In half a year I'm going to upgrade my old bodies to something more capable. 5DII is slow and AF is a nightmare, and 7D is too noisy even at ISO 1600, and the AF is not so great.

I found that both 5DIII used and 1Ds III used are selling for almost exactly same price, about 1500$. Same with 1D IV vs 7DII, costing like 1200-1300$ used.

Of course 5DIII and 7DII are newer, AF is better, maybe high ISO is better too, but 1D bodies are 1D bodies. I used to have 1D IV once, and it was a beast. Had to sell it for the need of money, unfortunatelly.

So, what do you think I should aim at?

 

[Deleted member 91053]

If you have time to save a bit more (it looks like you have) what about a used 1DX? Not sure about prices in you area but buying the cameras at the prices you report should be getting you a long way towards a decent condition 1DX (Mk1).

Just a thought?

 

[Snzkgb]

If you have time to save a bit more (it looks like you have) what about a used 1DX? Not sure about prices in you area but buying the cameras at the prices you report should be getting you a long way towards a decent condition 1DX (Mk1).

Just a thought?

Well, maybe, but I prefer to have two cameras for different types of shooting, when FF camera is an all-rounder, mostly landscapes, casual shooting, street photography, portraits and fast crop camera is aimed at wildlife, sports and action.

I'll think about having just one 1DX.

 

[slclick]

If you have time to save a bit more (it looks like you have) what about a used 1DX? Not sure about prices in you area but buying the cameras at the prices you report should be getting you a long way towards a decent condition 1DX (Mk1).

Just a thought?

Well, maybe, but I prefer to have two cameras for different types of shooting, when FF camera is an all-rounder, mostly landscapes, casual shooting, street photography, portraits and fast crop camera is aimed at wildlife, sports and action.

I'll think about having just one 1DX.

You have the SL1, as we all know.

 

[Snzkgb]

If you have time to save a bit more (it looks like you have) what about a used 1DX? Not sure about prices in you area but buying the cameras at the prices you report should be getting you a long way towards a decent condition 1DX (Mk1).

Just a thought?

Well, maybe, but I prefer to have two cameras for different types of shooting, when FF camera is an all-rounder, mostly landscapes, casual shooting, street photography, portraits and fast crop camera is aimed at wildlife, sports and action.

I'll think about having just one 1DX.

You have the SL1, as we all know.

All that I have can be found in my signature.

 

[ajfotofilmagem]

1ds Mark III is still a wonderful camera with the exception of the high ISO. If you usually use above ISO 1600, other cameras are more interesting.

 

[Snzkgb]

1ds Mark III is still a wonderful camera with the exception of the high ISO. If you usually use above ISO 1600, other cameras are more interesting.

I'm fine with ISO performance of 5DII, and 1DsIII seems to have the exact same sensor.

 

[ajfotofilmagem]

1ds Mark III is still a wonderful camera with the exception of the high ISO. If you usually use above ISO 1600, other cameras are more interesting.

I'm fine with ISO performance of 5DII, and 1DsIII seems to have the exact same sensor.

The sensor is not the same.
The 1DS Mark iii has more chroma noise, noticeable even in ISO 800.
On the other hand, 1DS Mark iii has wonderful color depth at low ISO.

 

[Mt Spokane Photography]

The 5D MK III is very nice if you need better AF. I had no issue with the 5D MK II AF, but then I came from the days of cameras with no autofocus and somehow they worked very well.

I personally feel that a crop camera would get little use after having gone solely to FF. I could put my 24-70 on one and my 70-200 on the other. Getting focal length coverage when using crop plus FF is not easy without me buying another lens, and that extra money would let me buy a second FF.

 

[sedwards]

I own all 4 of the cameras you mentioned. For ultimate image quality if you can shoot below 400 iso , I find the 1DsIII has an advantage although its hard to tell sometimes. If you need to high sio , the 5DIII is the best of the 4.
if you want something for fast action , I get better results with my 1DIV however the 7dII has a lot more user selectable features and is a little easier to navigate through the menus.
The 1DsIII has a contrast detect focus vs the other 3 having phase detect which is much faster.

 

[Mikehit]

Most of your shots on 500px seem to be wildlife so my preference would be to go so I would go with the 5DIV for its AF performance. And to go with it I would choose the 5Diii - I know it is not one of the combinations you listed but if all 5 cameras are about the same price, what the heck.

I have the 7D2 and I really like it, but the AF is a bit tricky to manage at times and the 1D series just nail it. I have become less and less convinced about the 'crop factor' argument for wildlife: in good light it is OK but anything above ISO800 and the pixel quality of the 5D/1D start to override the number of pixels.

 

[Snzkgb]

Most of your shots on 500px seem to be wildlife so my preference would be to go so I would go with the 5DIV for its AF performance. And to go with it I would choose the 5Diii - I know it is not one of the combinations you listed but if all 5 cameras are about the same price, what the heck.

I have the 7D2 and I really like it, but the AF is a bit tricky to manage at times and the 1D series just nail it. I have become less and less convinced about the 'crop factor' argument for wildlife: in good light it is OK but anything above ISO800 and the pixel quality of the 5D/1D start to override the number of pixels.

I cannot afford 5DIV or 5DSR.

 

[Mikehit]

Sorry, I should have written

Most of your shots on 500px seem to be wildlife so my preference would be to go so I would go with the 1DIV for its AF performance. And to go with it I would choose the 5Diii - I know it is not one of the combinations you listed but if all 5 cameras are about the same price, what the heck.

I have the 7D2 and I really like it, but the AF is a bit tricky to manage at times and the 1D series just nail it. I have become less and less convinced about the 'crop factor' argument for wildlife: in good light it is OK but anything above ISO800 and the pixel quality of the 5D/1D start to override the number of pixels.

I did not mention the 5DSR because I know it is out of your price range

 

[slclick]

It looks from your former gear list that you probably know what to do.

 

[Deleted member 91053]

If you have time to save a bit more (it looks like you have) what about a used 1DX? Not sure about prices in you area but buying the cameras at the prices you report should be getting you a long way towards a decent condition 1DX (Mk1).

Just a thought?

Well, maybe, but I prefer to have two cameras for different types of shooting, when FF camera is an all-rounder, mostly landscapes, casual shooting, street photography, portraits and fast crop camera is aimed at wildlife, sports and action.

I'll think about having just one 1DX.

Currently I use the 1DX and 7D2 and the vast majority of my photography is wildlife with the bulk of that being small birds. Much as I like my 7D2 it gets very little use as the 1DX is a far better wildlife camera.

I knew this before I bought the 7D2 but I needed a backup camera and something lighter for travel and where more mobility is needed + it was VERY cheap! Don't get me wrong the 7D2 is an excellent camera and, in good to very good light will give a small reach advantage over the 1DX. However, aside from the small reach advantage in good light the 1Dx is better in every way - but costing much more you would expect this!

I find the 1DX is just great for landscapes too, though it is a bit heavy. hence my suggestion of one camera.

Just food for thought, we can make suggestions, only you can decide what suits your wallet/needs best!

 

[pwp]

I have had all the cameras you've mentioned. The 1D MkIV was a long time favourite, but now lags behind in a number of areas. It's an old camera now. As is the 1D MkIII released ten years ago in early 2007. It's still very competent but now relatively ancient history. There may be servicing issues coming up with the older bodies with discontinued support likely at some stage.

The 5D MkIII would be the pick of the bunch. I've just retired mine. It was bought in 2012 when they first shipped and has been in solid daily use. And to be honest it really doesn't give much away to the new 5D MkIV.

-pw

 

[Snzkgb]

I have had all the cameras you've mentioned. The 1D MkIV was a long time favourite, but now lags behind in a number of areas. It's an old camera now. As is the 1D MkIII released ten years ago in early 2007. It's still very competent but now relatively ancient history. There may be servicing issues coming up with the older bodies with discontinued support likely at some stage.

The 5D MkIII would be the pick of the bunch. I've just retired mine. It was bought in 2012 when they first shipped and has been in solid daily use. And to be honest it really doesn't give much away to the new 5D MkIV.

-pw

You right, 1DsIII and 1DIV are history now, and with time cervice center won't be able to service them.
I didn't think about that.

Well, seems that I'll have to choose between buying used 1DX and both used 5DIII+7DII.

 

[slclick]

Why did you get rid of your other 5D3?

 

[Snzkgb]

Why did you get rid of your other 5D3?

I lost my job and had to sell it and 1DIV for money.

 

[Mikehit]

Bummer!

One suggestion I read recently went along the lines of 'buyer's remorse - if you bought the 5DIII how much would you regret not buying the 7DII'?
Or 'When you had to sell your cameras, which one did you regret the most?'

I have the 7DII and if it was stolen and I had the insurance money, I would get the 5DIII for the ISO: it is often cloudy in NW England and I regularly push 800-1600, and if the bird is so small in the image that I really, really need the pixel count, the image is being magnified the extent it is 'just about' acceptable at best.