2 different 5Ds coming in 2012 ???!!!!!

[etto72]

My brother that lives in Copenhagen(Denmark)
was told that there are two 5D body with full frame sensor coming this year
One of them soon announced

Why should canon come up with 2 different 5D?


Nevertheless here are the specs he was told
...... not sure it makes sense



5D (version 1)
45mp !!!!!
Pro Af
4fp
100-12800 iso
Digic 5+


5D(version 2)

Hybrid electronic viewfinder (???)
22 mp
100-51200 iso
4K video
Raw video
Advance live view Af+Digic 4
Digic 5+

Thanks for listening

 

[jrista]

5D (version 1)
45mp !!!!!
Pro Af
4fp
100-12800 iso
Digic 5+


5D(version 2)

Hybrid electronic viewfinder (???)
22 mp
100-51200 iso
4K video
Raw video
Advance live view Af+Digic 4
Digic 5+

Thanks for listening

In all honesty, this kind of sounds more plausible than the super-specs we've been hearing about the 5D II's replacement recently. Canon is going to have to compete on more than one front with the 5D if Nikon really does release the cameras its claiming to have up its sleeve. A 22mp/high ISO camera with good AF would compete on one front, while the 45mp camera would compete on another front. Canon used to have an extra camera in their lineup before the merger into the 1D X...seems smart that they would add another model somewhere to replace what they have lost.

I wouldn't be surprised to hear of a new model number....the 3D perhaps? I don't know that both models would have to both be part of the 5D line.

 

[jbwise01]

You might actaully be onto something, maybe they have a 5D mark III and a 5DX, this could help explain the large variations in the potnetial specs we have herad about the 5D. This would also suggest 2 vastly different price points would be targeted.

 

[aaronh]

This would also suggest 2 vastly different price points would be targeted.

Maybe this is displaying my ignorance... Any idea what the price points would be?

 

[candyman]

You might actaully be onto something, maybe they have a 5D mark III and a 5DX, ....

From a marketing point of view...it would not be such a good thing to name those camera's alike
I would believe more maybe: 5DX and 3DX...

 

[jbwise01]

You might actaully be onto something, maybe they have a 5D mark III and a 5DX, ....

From a marketing point of view...it would not be such a good thing to name those camera's alike
I would believe more maybe: 5DX and 3DX...

agrees, names are too similar, i was jsut trying to stay in the context of the orignal post, I think a 3Dx is very likely!

 

[kenraw]

I too have been thinking there are two models coming. My prediction is a 5dx and something else like maybe a 3d or maybe even two version of a 5dx ie 5dxs

However I could be wrong but it's getting exciting as we seem to be nearing an announcment.

 

[JR]

model labelling aside, this does indeed make sense. My only problem now is if this is true, I guess it will cost me more then one EOS body this year!

 

[Axilrod]

I can't imagine them releasing a "video DSLR" and the Cinema DSLR in the same year. It's possible the 2nd set of specs IS for the Cinema DSLR and it's just getting confused as another 5D.

45 MP sounds ridiculous and is probably just wishful thinking. Also I don't see how living in Denmark would give him anymore information on it than we have here...

 

[Loswr]

Also I don't see how living in Denmark would give him anymore information on it than we have here...

Where he lives doesn't matter nearly as much who told him this. Was it his friend the senior executive at Canon, or was it the vendor pushing the street cart of morning pastries?

 

[bainsybike]

45 MP sounds ridiculous and is probably just wishful thinking.

You never know - 45 MP on FF would give about the same pixel density as the 7D.

 

[LetTheRightLensIn]

I honestly don't think either of those specs works out too sensibly, the details don't agree well.

I guess I could see two different 5D one like what CR says with 18-22MP and 7.5fps and 61pt digic iv AF and one with 32MP, 6fps, 7D+ AF. I would've more thought the latter specs than the CR specs, if anything.

 

[keithfullermusic]

45 MP sounds ridiculous and is probably just wishful thinking.

You never know - 45 MP on FF would give about the same pixel density as the 7D.

agreed - 45MP on a FF doesn't sound ridiculous to me at all. I'm surprised there isn't one already.

 

[frisk]

Well, maybe this is just a rumour that has gone in a circle....people have been posting something like this for a while - here is something similar that I posted myself a few days ago.

The rumors suggest that there are several different prototypes being designed/tested. Now, I am wondering if Canon might have a plan for not one, but two successors for the 5DII.

One would be the "junior" version of the 1DX - a little less of everything. Smaller body, single Digic, single card, 22 MPs, and maybe 6-7 fps, but with a much improved focus system compared to 5DII and a very-good high-ISO performance. Some people might see this as a FF upgrade for the 7D as well.

The other would be a high-MP camera for landscape/studio photographers, no more than 4fps, and not as good high-ISO as the first one, but around 35MPs.

Something like this would make sense to me - Canon realizes that it cannot make everyone happy with a single offering, so it might make sense to have two different cameras in the $2500-$4000 range below the 1DX flagship. Whether one of them ends up being named 3D and the other 5DII (or 5DX) is a different question, though.

Perhaps someone read a rumour like that here, mentioned it to someone who took it as a fact, not just speculation, and then the rumour eventually found its way back here.

Having said that, I would love this rumour to be true ... if Canon could pull something like this off they would make many people (myself included) very happy.

 

[TinaLovesCanon]

Only 2? I think we'll see a 5D3 soon, I just don't think it will smoke the 1DX.

 

[Picsfor]

45mp pigh in the sky?

OK, let's retell the comments of a Canon support engineer who works with the photography division.

He explained that "in Canon's view, a 50mp FF sensor with a 50mm lens would give the best rendition of what the human eye can see. His was that Canon had managed to demonstrate under 'laboratory conditions' but were not in a position to bring it to market - and he wasn't sure the lenses were ready to handle such a beast, no the current crop of home computers."

Now this was late 2010, and whilst we know things have advanced and we know Canon have produced a 120mp sensor, the point involved was - researching and proving it can be done is one thing, successfully bringing it to the market is another.

The last point made appears to still be a very valid one. Most Nikon owners looking for a D800 are not afraid of the 36mp because of its size, they're all concerned about the new computing system they've got to purchase to process such files, the large amounts of additional storage they've got to invest in to keep and back up the files.

It's one thing forking out nearly £2k for a new body, but if that body means you have to invest in £500 of extra storage capacity and £1k-£2k of new computer system - your £2k D800 has now reached the price of a 1DX.

And what about the lenses? The 5D2 exposed a couple of my lenses as not being up to the task and that was with only a 22mp sensor - what on earth is 36mp gonna do to several of the Nikon lenses?

I believe large MP camera's are possible, and may even sit in the cupboard of various R&D departments - but i also fervently believe that at this time the market can not support such a camera.

 

[tt]

It'd be interesting to see if higher file sizes tempered the RAW file snap happy mentality, to bring it back a bit closer to the restraint a film photographer had in taking lots of photos.

As for storage - I remember 1.5TB drives when they cost over £500/$750 a pop. In my computing lifetime we've gone from big floppy discs, 3.5", crappy tape systems, CDs, DVDs, Blu Ray discs and multiTB 2.5" drives.

If you were selective in using higher sized files, i'd imagine it'd be amazing to see what you could do with a great image.

 

[Nick Gombinsky]

4K raw video in a DSLR form, with a price tag below the 16,000 that costs the C300, which is a proper video camera made for filmmakers, which doesn't even have 4k or raw?

Can't see it coming. The second 5D stated seems like a blend of many different rumors together as one, I've heard it before, but from people in the movie industry who like to talk a lot as if they knew too much, just to appear as a top dog to the others (its incredible how this happens a lot here in Argentina).

There is a huge misinformation when it comes to video in DSLRs, the fusion of both worlds for people that belonged to only one of them sometimes can lead to completely erroneous facts or crazy wishlists converted into rumors...

 

[Policar]

A second 5D seems unlikely, but maybe the first camera is the 4k cinema camera?

However: Canon claims 4k recording to APS-H for their 4k camera. 4096*1.3 is 5325. That's closer to the 1DX's sensor. Strange.

I want that 4k cinema camera! But it looks like it's going to be very expensive if it's, in essence, a modified 1DX.

 

[Orion]

Let's not forget that there is a EOS "C" which is like a 5D mkIII for video, and then there is the regular 5Dmk III or X. . . . the "C" will cost more than the regular 5DIII. . . . . so it is not really 2%D but the EOS C and the 5Dmk III . . . with all the info and speculation we are getting, it might just be that due to the popularity of the 5D mkII's video performance etc, that it will be turned into the EOS C, and another NEW model will be produced to take over between the 7D and 5D. . . .

oops . . . . I think I just went overboard here haha