46.1mp Canon DSLR Previewed at PhotoPlus 2012? [CR1]

[RLPhoto]

If its a 5Dx for 4099$. I'm so buying one. ;D

 

[Fishnose]

Yeah, you're probably right, it could be a 4D, but the low ISO range of 100 to 12,800 and not 50 to 51,200 or 101,400 threw me. Is this going to be a $4,999 EOS 4D designed for Studio or outdoor Landscape photography where low-light is not an issue?

well i take pictures with a dslr for 7 years now.
95% of my pictures are taken with ISO under 6400.

i really don´t know what people need ISO 25600 and above.

and i wonder how these people have worked before.....

And I wonder how people got around before, when there were no cars...... yes, they got around, but it took a while and was a LOT more difficult.

Get my point?

 

[LetTheRightLensIn]

46mp @5fps wow wonder what the buffer will be if true, and shudder to think what the price will be bet it will make the 5D3 entry price look like a real bargin! good to see though

I'd love a 32MP at 7fps and good low iso DR and 4k video in C300-style blocks even more ;D ;D ;D.

Or 39MP and 6fps and good low ISO DR. losing the 1 fps to go 39MP to 46MP is not worth it. at 6fps it can also do action much better than at 5fps.

But anyway it may be a very nice cam 46 5fps mix in top low ISO DR and 5D3 AF and 5D3 size (please not a 1 series brick). And at least 5fps starts getting you there. It would be awesome if they gave it a crop mode so you don't need to waste so much space on far off subjects and boosted fps to 6-8fps for crop mode. All that and it makes the D800 look pretty weak. Lot of IFs though. Wonder what kind of video they can get out of a 46MP sensor though.

 

[LetTheRightLensIn]

Should I sell my 1dx??

Very confused: 18mpx for $7000.00
46mpx for HOW MUCH?

Paul

5fps ain't 12fps!!

 

[pwp]

Yeah, you're probably right, it could be a 4D, but the low ISO range of 100 to 12,800 and not 50 to 51,200 or 101,400 threw me. Is this going to be a $4,999 EOS 4D designed for Studio or outdoor Landscape photography where low-light is not an issue?

Well I take pictures with a dslr for 7 years now.
95% of my pictures are taken with ISO under 6400.
I really don´t know what people need ISO 25600 and above.
And I wonder how these people have worked before.....

Yes most photographers would shoot the majority of their work under 6400iso, probably under 800iso. But having the option of ramping up to 12,800iso or beyond in fading or very low light to still deliver shots for your client is a godsend.

-PW

 

[DB]

I eagerly await a true 1Ds Mark IV as well, which is what this camera should be called, but obviously CANNOT be called that now. Who knows about the name, but I bet $5k price.

Bet they call it the 4Ds Mark I ;D and it will certainly not cost a cent less than $4,999 (well initially)

 

[rh81photo]

really? THIS camera gets 5fps and the 6D doesn't? at 16bit per pixel that means 3.7GBit/s transfer speed into ram...the 1DX at 18MP with 14bit per pixel at 14fps calculates to 3.5GBits/s

that means its gonna cost more than the 5DmkIII...much closer to the 1DX I think. 4500-5500 bucks I guess.
4D as a name sounds plausible regarding recent 4D-name-spottings in app-screenshots.

 

[tron]

I guess the use case would be astrophotographers who want to be able to shoot at 12,800 and print big.

Astrophotographers want low noise. Shooting at the high end of the rumored available ISO (12800) should not produce low noise photographs. 5D3 or 1DX are more suitable.

 

[well_dunno]

46.1 mp eh? I imagine that would allow Canon show optical superiority of its lenses in comparison to the competition ( and hopefully not vice cersa )...

If the specs are true, my guess also would be 5Kish. Cannot see the need for 5fps on a 46 mp camera though...

It would be awesome if they gave it a crop mode so you don't need to waste so much space on far off subjects and boosted fps to 6-8fps for crop mode.

+1

Let's hope that the rumor at NL few weeks ago becomes true:
It's suggested that there will be a preview of this camera at a post Photokina event, with the emphasis on resolution, dynamic range and a true challenge to digital MF.
The camera is aimed at showing 'clear technical leadership'.

http://www.northlight-images.co.uk/cameras/Canon_1D_Xs.html


Cheers!

 

[DB]

What about RAW file size, assuming the resolution is correct => 8,142 x 5,428 x 16 = 707,116,416 bits so divide by 8 ( 8 bits = 1 byte) becomes 88,389,552 bytes, so divide by 1,024 to get kilobytes = 86,317 Kb (or about 86MB) per image shot x 5 shots per second equals nearly half a gigabyte of your card gone in just 1 sec, so 30 secs @ hi-speed continuous shooting and your 16GB CF card is full!

edit: had to re-read that was 46.1MP and not 48.1MP

 

[drjlo]

Do we really believe Canon is all of a sudden capable of developing a 46 MP sensor with good iso and great DR? The technology involved in such a beast would have to be far more advanced than the current sesnsors in 5D III and 1DX, and it wouldn't surprise me if D800 outshines it in both high iso (likely, esp with lower MP) and DR (as usual).

 

[tron]

Do we really believe Canon is all of a sudden capable of developing a 46 MP sensor with good iso and great DR? The technology involved in such a beast would have to be far more advanced than the current sesnsors in 5D III and 1DX, and it wouldn't surprise me if D800 outshines it in both high iso (likely, esp with lower MP) and DR (as usual).

Now that is a good question! Unless they were almost ready and they were simply getting the most out of their old technology and ... our money! (Which confuses me: Must I use this ;D or that ?)

 

[pmac]

HAHAHAHA This is so funny, only a few months ago most of you were slating the d800 saying that it was over kill in MP,file size and that 22MP was the ideal number.
Now theres hints of a canon 46MP thats all out the window.
It will be interesting to see how this pans out, I can't see it having such specs with so hi Mp,fps and iso performance.

I wouldn't be surprised if it actual did come out but as more of a MF rival in a larger,extremely expensive body c300 style maybe.

 

[wickidwombat]

Finally some relative credible rumors and 16 bit. I believe will be in a 5D3 Body (not 1D) aimed directly to studio work. At those specs will be at around $ 5K.
For what i do... regarding photography... 46 MP is a blessing from haven

I really, really hope this will be true

I hope you are right if it's true I might get one if iq is good but I'm not interested in a 1d body

 

[bdunbar79]

HAHAHAHA This is so funny, only a few months ago most of you were slating the d800 saying that it was over kill in MP,file size and that 22MP was the ideal number.
Now theres hints of a canon 46MP thats all out the window.
It will be interesting to see how this pans out, I can't see it having such specs with so hi Mp,fps and iso performance.

I wouldn't be surprised if it actual did come out but as more of a MF rival in a larger,extremely expensive body c300 style maybe.

"Most?" That's a fairly unfounded word to use, don't you think? You can count me out of the "most" because I think it's fine the D800 has 36MP, even though I don't personally need 36 MP's.

 

[Lee Jay]

Let me guess - yet another recycling of the T2i/60D/7D/T3i/T4i/ pixels, just in a larger sensor.

18*(1.6*1.6) = 46.1

 

[LetTheRightLensIn]

Do we really believe Canon is all of a sudden capable of developing a 46 MP sensor with good iso and great DR? The technology involved in such a beast would have to be far more advanced than the current sesnsors in 5D III and 1DX, and it wouldn't surprise me if D800 outshines it in both high iso (likely, esp with lower MP) and DR (as usual).

Well they did say it would be one of those on the horizon announcements so it may be still 18 months to stores or something which might make it at least a possibility.

 

[LetTheRightLensIn]

Finally some relative credible rumors and 16 bit. I believe will be in a 5D3 Body (not 1D) aimed directly to studio work. At those specs will be at around $ 5K.
For what i do... regarding photography... 46 MP is a blessing from haven

I really, really hope this will be true

I hope you are right if it's true I might get one if iq is good but I'm not interested in a 1d body

Yeah I hope it comes in a nice 5D3-type body, not some 1 series brick.

 

[justsomedude]

Let me guess - yet another recycling of the T2i/60D/7D/T3i/T4i/ pixels, just in a larger sensor.

18*(1.6*1.6) = 46.1

The limited ISOs would indicate you are correct. It looks like Canon still can't touch Nikon's (Sony's) EXMOR sensor, otherwise the ISO range would be much greater.

I'd say Canon, for the first time in man years, has definitely taken a back seat in sensor performance to Nikon. I'll wait to see the final product that hits the streets, but those who were waiting for Canon to respond to the D800 may be a little disappointed with the answer they get. Me being one of them.

Here's hoping it's better than 12,800.

 

[traveller]

Based upon these specifications (if true -and they're probably not entirely, if at all ) it looks like this is going to be in a 1-series body. If you look at the interview over at Imaging Resource:

http://www.imaging-resource.com/news/2012/09/20/qa-with-canons-mike-owen-behind-the-scenes-in-developing-the-6D-and-whats (Thanks to Northlight Images for the link]

it seems that Canon feel that the 20MP class is a 'sweet-spot' for full frame cameras and lenses. Thus, it would be natural for them to view a 40MP class camera as a specialist tool for professionals. This leans towards 1-series in my book... So out of most people's price bracket.