5D Black AF points...NOTHING + Spot-meter?

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Zlatko said:
RMC33 said:
The real advantage over the 5D II is only the Autofocus..and yet not complete!!!

Better High ISO, better layout/ergonomics, better AFMA, better grip, better video (I can't honestly comment on this as I have never shot video with any DSLR), Nice having an extra card slot just in case (should have been a CF card!), better high end card performance (if that matters to you), The AF on the Mk3 blows the Mk2 out of the water, better NR, better processor and I feel a much better overall build.

... and to add to that: more responsive shutter, shorter mirror blackout, 100% viewfinder, two amazing quiet shutter modes, good implementation of auto-ISO, better auto white balance, higher frame rate, etc. So, the hugely improved autofocus is definitely NOT the "only" real advantage.

I agree with Mt Spokane who writes that the "grass is not greener". Look at the current star ratings on Amazon.com:

D800: 42 out of 239 are 1 star (worst) ratings = 17.5%
D600: 40 out 225 are 1 star (worst) ratings = 17.7%

5D3: 4 out of 201 are 1 star (worst) ratings = 2%
6D: 0 out of 58 are 1 star (worst) ratings = 0%

Based on specs on paper, those Nikon models should be providing greater value. But based on customer ratings, they are providing greater dissatisfaction.

Very very good points. I forgot about quiet shutter which I have to say is amazing.
 
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RMC33 said:
Zlatko said:
RMC33 said:
The real advantage over the 5D II is only the Autofocus..and yet not complete!!!

Better High ISO, better layout/ergonomics, better AFMA, better grip, better video (I can't honestly comment on this as I have never shot video with any DSLR), Nice having an extra card slot just in case (should have been a CF card!), better high end card performance (if that matters to you), The AF on the Mk3 blows the Mk2 out of the water, better NR, better processor and I feel a much better overall build.

... and to add to that: more responsive shutter, shorter mirror blackout, 100% viewfinder, two amazing quiet shutter modes, good implementation of auto-ISO, better auto white balance, higher frame rate, etc. So, the hugely improved autofocus is definitely NOT the "only" real advantage.

I agree with Mt Spokane who writes that the "grass is not greener". Look at the current star ratings on Amazon.com:

D800: 42 out of 239 are 1 star (worst) ratings = 17.5%
D600: 40 out 225 are 1 star (worst) ratings = 17.7%

5D3: 4 out of 201 are 1 star (worst) ratings = 2%
6D: 0 out of 58 are 1 star (worst) ratings = 0%

Based on specs on paper, those Nikon models should be providing greater value. But based on customer ratings, they are providing greater dissatisfaction.

Very very good points. I forgot about quiet shutter which I have to say is amazing.

Quiet shutter - works really well at weddings :)
 
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I will probably be flamed but... The 5d mk iii is a terrific camera.

I think Canon camera pricing is quite reasonable, just compare it to the cost of the 1ds mk iii, or the 1d mk iv. I paid $2975 for mine at b&h. and I think it is well worth every penny. Nikon is killing their own profits right now to compete with Canon, and they are suffering because of it.

I have never had a problem with the metering yet, sometimes I have to compensate with manual lenses or heavy white backgrounds(snow), but who cares, That's kind of why I don't use a point and shot. I don't mind getting to know when to tweak the camera.

The AF is excellent. I shoot 50% birds and I don't even have time to look at the focus points when shooting BIF, and when they are stationary I use one shot.

I really don't understand why people go on and on about these little things, just adapt and move forward.
 
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Menace said:
RMC33 said:
Zlatko said:
RMC33 said:
The real advantage over the 5D II is only the Autofocus..and yet not complete!!!

Better High ISO, better layout/ergonomics, better AFMA, better grip, better video (I can't honestly comment on this as I have never shot video with any DSLR), Nice having an extra card slot just in case (should have been a CF card!), better high end card performance (if that matters to you), The AF on the Mk3 blows the Mk2 out of the water, better NR, better processor and I feel a much better overall build.

... and to add to that: more responsive shutter, shorter mirror blackout, 100% viewfinder, two amazing quiet shutter modes, good implementation of auto-ISO, better auto white balance, higher frame rate, etc. So, the hugely improved autofocus is definitely NOT the "only" real advantage.

I agree with Mt Spokane who writes that the "grass is not greener". Look at the current star ratings on Amazon.com:

D800: 42 out of 239 are 1 star (worst) ratings = 17.5%
D600: 40 out 225 are 1 star (worst) ratings = 17.7%

5D3: 4 out of 201 are 1 star (worst) ratings = 2%
6D: 0 out of 58 are 1 star (worst) ratings = 0%

Based on specs on paper, those Nikon models should be providing greater value. But based on customer ratings, they are providing greater dissatisfaction.

Very very good points. I forgot about quiet shutter which I have to say is amazing.

Quiet shutter - works really well at weddings :)

I think I forgot because I can hardly hear it at events like that=)
 
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I shot a sporting event today with the machine-gun shutter of the 1D X, and it wasn't a problem. I suppose that might be because the subjects were busy pummeling each other in the head within the boxing ring... ;)
 
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neuroanatomist said:
I shot a sporting event today with the machine-gun shutter of the 1D X, and it wasn't a problem. I suppose that might be because the subjects were busy pummeling each other in the head within the boxing ring... ;)

Haha. I just rented one from CPS to see if it (which I know it will) replace my 7D for sports. Poor little guy decided to stop working the other day.

I will say the other thing I like silent shutter for is street shooting. If people don't hear the click click click they are less inclined to care about what you are doing. Has not netted me any good ones yet, but it keeps interest down.
 
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EvillEmperor said:
Why does everyone complain about the black ad points? News flash! You can disable them not to all appear at once or just show a few ad points! It doesn't bother me on the 7D or 5D. Spot meter, I can understand, but really, the black AF points can easily be avoided!

they, we, dislike how it is all but impossible to see the AF points in a dim environment. personally I can't understand the spot metering thing, but if it was my bag, i would certainly like to see it as an option.
 
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RMC33 said:
Menace said:
RMC33 said:
Zlatko said:
RMC33 said:
The real advantage over the 5D II is only the Autofocus..and yet not complete!!!

Better High ISO, better layout/ergonomics, better AFMA, better grip, better video (I can't honestly comment on this as I have never shot video with any DSLR), Nice having an extra card slot just in case (should have been a CF card!), better high end card performance (if that matters to you), The AF on the Mk3 blows the Mk2 out of the water, better NR, better processor and I feel a much better overall build.

... and to add to that: more responsive shutter, shorter mirror blackout, 100% viewfinder, two amazing quiet shutter modes, good implementation of auto-ISO, better auto white balance, higher frame rate, etc. So, the hugely improved autofocus is definitely NOT the "only" real advantage.

I agree with Mt Spokane who writes that the "grass is not greener". Look at the current star ratings on Amazon.com:

D800: 42 out of 239 are 1 star (worst) ratings = 17.5%
D600: 40 out 225 are 1 star (worst) ratings = 17.7%

5D3: 4 out of 201 are 1 star (worst) ratings = 2%
6D: 0 out of 58 are 1 star (worst) ratings = 0%

Based on specs on paper, those Nikon models should be providing greater value. But based on customer ratings, they are providing greater dissatisfaction.

Very very good points. I forgot about quiet shutter which I have to say is amazing.

Quiet shutter - works really well at weddings :)

I think I forgot because I can hardly hear it at events like that=)

+1
 
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bdunbar79 said:
neuroanatomist said:
bdunbar79 said:
I have no idea what market the D800 is targeting, since none of Nikon's lenses can even maximally use the 36 MP sensor.

The 5DII trounced the D700 in sales. Nikon assumed it was due to 21 MP vs. 12 MP. So, Nikon skated to where the puck used to be, and developed the 36 MP D800. Canon listened to Wayne and skated to where the puck was going - they developed the 5DIII, which seems to be trouncing the D800 in sales.

So in other words, Canon actually does deliver on what most photographers want? Wow!

Seems so. I remember about a years worth of "what do you want to see in the new 5D3?" posts right here and the vast majority stated "don't increase the pixel count just fix the *&^%* autofocus" and next was "less moire in the video". Mission accomplished...had the 5D2 and like the 5D3 much better largely for these two things, though there are plenty others as well.

I'm sure a D800 is a fine camera for full daylight shooting with the extra DR at ISO 100, but there is this thing call "indoors" and another thing called "dusk" and another called "night"...lol.
 
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Menace said:
RMC33 said:
Menace said:
RMC33 said:
Zlatko said:
RMC33 said:
The real advantage over the 5D II is only the Autofocus..and yet not complete!!!

Better High ISO, better layout/ergonomics, better AFMA, better grip, better video (I can't honestly comment on this as I have never shot video with any DSLR), Nice having an extra card slot just in case (should have been a CF card!), better high end card performance (if that matters to you), The AF on the Mk3 blows the Mk2 out of the water, better NR, better processor and I feel a much better overall build.

... and to add to that: more responsive shutter, shorter mirror blackout, 100% viewfinder, two amazing quiet shutter modes, good implementation of auto-ISO, better auto white balance, higher frame rate, etc. So, the hugely improved autofocus is definitely NOT the "only" real advantage.

I agree with Mt Spokane who writes that the "grass is not greener". Look at the current star ratings on Amazon.com:

D800: 42 out of 239 are 1 star (worst) ratings = 17.5%
D600: 40 out 225 are 1 star (worst) ratings = 17.7%

5D3: 4 out of 201 are 1 star (worst) ratings = 2%
6D: 0 out of 58 are 1 star (worst) ratings = 0%

Based on specs on paper, those Nikon models should be providing greater value. But based on customer ratings, they are providing greater dissatisfaction.

Very very good points. I forgot about quiet shutter which I have to say is amazing.

Quiet shutter - works really well at weddings :)

I think I forgot because I can hardly hear it at events like that=)

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Don't forget that the auto-focus of the 5D III is not all the same as 1D x's,
while that seems no big difference, it surely is a lot better in low light,
without mentioning the spot-meter linked to all AF points.

Even the 6D's center AF point is better in low light than 5D III's any AF Point

So, the 5D III IS a lot better camera than its predecessor, there still are
some important limitations even for weddings or low light events.
I've had troubles achieving a good focus with all the lenses in some
low light situations.

I don't know what will the next 5D camera have or improve,
but i think there's still room of improving the auto-focus.

We really didn't need all those AF points,
nor should it have all that ''complicated'' auto-focus,
All it should have was a 1Dx-like low light performance with fewer AF points

Anyway it's just my opinion
 
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So what do you guys think will/could Canon improve in the 5D III
with firmwares in the future?

AF...Black point, or other?
SDXC card (speed) compatibility?
Fps, like they did with the 7D?

Or Chinese, English, German, French, Italian, language better translation?
Or ad Albanian language?
 
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... and it all boils down to the price! There have been plenty of complaints about the price in comparison to the D800 but your whinge comes late by about a year.

Price is the last thing you should worry about once a purchase has been made. However, if you are still in the market, you need to see which system serves you best - a camera body is just another cog in the wheel.
 
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LifeAfter said:
neuroanatomist said:
LifeAfter said:
Just a print screen of Top 100 in Switzerland

Top 100 based on what? Sales or customer feedback?

The D800 was all the time to top 1 to 5
And the 5DIII was all the way down the list, about 25th or 30th place
On sales of course

Top 100 of what? (devices which can take photo?) Provided by whom?
It's hard, for me, to imagine that the D800 outsells the D3200 :o
 
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