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5D Mark III Full Spec List?

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Re: not sure about those photos of the new 5d3

canonpro said:
As a long time canon pro user, I really don't believe that those are images are of the new 5d3. It's hard to believe that canon would have a control dial put back on the top of the camera body like their pro consumer camera bodies. This camera looks like the new model Canon is going to release later this year that will be more geared toward upgrading the video features of a new 7D type of body with a full frame sensor.

Check out a picture of the 5DII and get back to me on your thoughts about the control dial.
 
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bigblue1ca said:
dswatson83 said:
As a 60D user, I can tell you that after the first few times you use the camera you'll develop a new technique and muscle memory and you won't even notice the lock is there. I change my modes on the fly without even thinking about the lock, I just think clicks (different modes).
As a 60D user also, it is REALLY annoying when switching from Manual mode where I shoot to video mode which is the extreme other end of the dial. Otherwise, I don't switch modes so the lock is not an issue but going from manual to video is a freaking pain.

Now that I could see. I seldom use video and I never change to it on the fly. I was thinking of moving between C, M, AV, TV. It looks like Canon has solved the still mode to video problem (based on the pictures) with the addition of a video button.
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isn't that the same button that's on the 7D? =) I'm also glad the video option isn't in the mode dial, that would have sucked haha =)
 
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Well if the specs and price are correct then I'm going to pick up a MkII. For my type of shooting the main advantages (ISO and AF) are nice but not worth the almost double price. Trust me I want to justify buying the latest and greatest but there just aren't any new exciting features, just a marginal incremental upgrade.

I really hope there is more to be revealed tomorrow.
 
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Since my only shooting mode with both a 40D and 5D2 has been in manual mode, with spot metering, and single-point AF, I'm trying to wrap my brain around the whole 61-point AF, 41-cross-type AF system, as well as digest all the discussion about whether the AF and metering systems are linked.

But isnt the 63-zone iFCL metering system listed in the rumored specs the same as in the 7D? And doesn't that system integrate the AF points in to the metering alogorithm?

http://cpn.canon-europe.com/content/education/infobank/exposure_settings/iFCL_metering.do
 
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gbchriste said:
Since my only shooting mode with both a 40D and 5D2 has been in manual mode, with spot metering, and single-point AF, I'm trying to wrap my brain around the whole 61-point AF, 41-cross-type AF system, as well as digest all the discussion about whether the AF and metering systems are linked.

But isnt the 63-zone iFCL metering system listed in the rumored specs the same as in the 7D? And doesn't that system integrate the AF points in to the metering alogorithm?

http://cpn.canon-europe.com/content/education/infobank/exposure_settings/iFCL_metering.do

That was my understanding, but people like to point out it's not as fancy as the new 1dx version... oh well.
 
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I was thinking about how I've used my Rebel T3i in the last year.

My "Pro" Work
1) Paintball Video and Still shots: Could have used more FPS and better auto focus.
2) Indoor Conferences Video and Still shots: Could have used better low light performance.
3) Landscape Still Shots from Travels: Could have used full frame because my lenses didn't feel wide enough.
4) Surfing Stills: No complaints but weather proofing would have been nice because of blowing sand/spray.
5) Vlogs of my talking to the camera indoors: Low light issues always haunt me and traveling with lights is tough.
6) X-Games coverage: Lack of FPS made me miss a few cool sequences. (Failed snowmobile backflip missed? Dammit)

My home stuff
1) Various Family shots around the pool: Could have used more FPS
2) Small photo trips with my daughter: Full frame would have been nice for landscape stuff.

As I think about it, this camera is almost exactly what I've been hoping for. I do wish it had 60FPS or better in video mode so that I could slow things down but I guess I can use the go pro for that when the time comes. I'll almost certainly order it as soon as I can.
 
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Nikon said:
KeithR said:
Tuggen said:
I think the main dissapointment is the crippled AF and metering.
Again with this "crippled" AF nonsense - have you even read the spec?

It says:

"61-point high-density reticular AF (up to 41 crosstype points)"

61 high density and 41 crosstype points, I am satisfied.

That's 40 more than I'll ever need! Just hope the sensitivity has been improved.
 
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6.0 not 6.9 FPS???
Almost 100% VF???
Up to 41 cross type???
USB 2 ????
Weather sealing ???

Totally underwhelming. Sure it's a nice camera with a couple of extra features over the II, but there's nothing revolutionary here, and nothing at all to justify the price tag compared to the D800 :(
 
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neuroanatomist said:
Canihaspicture said:
There seems to be a lot of fanboys in this thread... hardware wise how much better really do you feel this is than the 5D mark II besides the DIGIC 5 (which handles the high iso and framerate) and the small increase in MP by the sensor? If you pretend that this camera wasn't from Canon would you still feel the same way?

Yes. First off, Digic5+ is not the only reason for the higher frame rate - the mirror box needs to be stronger and have faster motors, even moreso for the 12 fps of the 1D X.

As stated, MP count isn't necessarily the most important factor, or even an important factor for many. The 21 MP of the 5DII was fine, the 18 MP of the 1D X is fine.

The big improvement, IMO, is the AF system of the 5DIII. It's still not 1D X AF, and as I expected the metering is the 7D's metering system (and 60D, 600D, etc.), not the 100K RGB sensor of the 1D X, and that sensor also assists the AF system.

shuttersound said:
If the photo is real, i was right abt the dial mode, it was not the lock type from the previous leaked pics and im glad it wasnt !!!

If certainly looks to me like the camera features the same button-lock in the center of the mode dial, as on the 60D (and optional retrofit for the 5DII and 7D). I'm not happy about this 'feature' since anything that slows down a mode change is annoying.

fotoray said:
Where is the DOF preview button?

On the opposite side of the lens mount release. Possibly programmable as on the 1D X (although just one and not two).

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Personally, I'm really glad they did not add a popup flash. For me, trying to use a TS-E lens on a 7D is an exercise in frustration, because the protrusion of the flash blocks access to the TS controls (even with the smaller knob included for use with crop bodies, and that little knob is even harder to turn).

Just catching up on all I missed over the past few hours and going through the pages one at a time. So, does this set of specs lean you mroe away from the D X. Just curious. I realize it would be nice to see camera tested data/examples.
 
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Tuggen said:
awinphoto said:
Tuggen said:
nvsravank said:
I am looking between 1DX and 5D mark III.
So looking to see what are the differences between the two. The ones i can see are

10. ISO difference - If the native is 1 stop lower on 5D Mark III, that means most probably the usable ISO is ISO 1600 and can go to ISO 3200/6400 in tough situations. For me coming from 5D, this is atleast 2 stop increase already for Mark III. And for the dance concerts i do take it is sufficient. There is enough lighting on the stage for me to be happy with a 2 stop increase.

The 5D3 will not be 2 stops better than 5D in high ISO performance.
Perhaps 1 stop. Perhaps even 1.5 stop as would be extremely good and better than D3s. Certainly not 2 stop.

I would be interesting how you came up with this conclusion...

The quantum efficiendy of 5D is about 25%. A 2 stop improvement would require a quantum efficiency of about 100%. If Canon has come up with a way to manufacture an ideal FF sensor then we will get about 2 stop improvement relative 5D. If this is the case I will put myself in line to buy it.
http://www.sensorgen.info/

You can get quantum efficiency above 100% in certain applications:
http://www.sciencemag.org/content/334/6062/1530.abstract
Quantum efficiency is the number of electrons produced relative to photons absorbed. For comparison, a backside illuminated CCD can hit 90+%.

That said, 100% QE is not necessary to improve *image quality* for pictures that are 2 ISO stops higher relative to the 25% QE of the 5D. QE is about light sensitivity, which has an effect on ISO performance, but does not have a direct correlation to ISO performance for digital and is not the only factor that determines image quality.

A given camera sensor only has one QE value regardless of what ISO you are using. For digital, adjusting ISO has to do with adjusting gain, not with increasing the sensitivity of the sensor. This can be done in various ways, including using a higher-bit A/D converter.

What QE does mean is that a given sensor can collect one stop more of *light* than another sensor if it has twice the QE. For example, the Canon 5D has 25% QE, and the Nikon D3s has a QE of 57%. The D3s will collect more than one stop more light than the 5D. The 5D Mark II for comparison is about 33%, and the Canon G11 is about 60%. However, QE alone does not dictate image quality because there are other factors involved in image quality, or else we'd all be using a Canon G11.

Furthermore, sensor QE isn't the only thing that can be improved to increase image quality and performance. Bayer filters reduce light acquired by a stop or so, so we still have room for improvement there to allow more light in. QE is a factor that affects noise in an image, but there are other factors too. Obviously, we can also use noise algorithms that may reduce noise while still keeping apparent detail, although that's a separate issue. There are also different types of noise -- for example, there are ways to increase luminance noise that may increase chromatic noise.

These issues are much more complicated than trying to reduce them to one particular number as the end-all measure of image quality. It's not really accurate to say that image quality at high ISO only has to do with quantum efficiency.

At minimum, however, it looks like we could increase QE 1.5 stops above the 5D and improve Bayer filters by perhaps 1 stop, so we probably have 2.5 stops of improvement available due to those two factors alone, with other factors that could still be adjusted.
 
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psolberg said:
People pointed out in other posts that they saw a Mic icon on the side of the inputs so it may have that, just check again tonight when it's announced... Uncompressed HDMI, check tonight, framerate, check tonight. List looks like NL's list, so I assume that's where he got his list. F8, check tonight, 4000 resolution video, uhh.... severely doubt it... If the C300 doesn't have it, no shot in heck this does.

The 7D has Mic input, so the 5D3 will too!
 
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