5D Mark III with Continuous RAW Video Recording

[NormanBates]

Re: New 5D3 Raw video samples mind blowing!

This is insanely awesome.

But keep in mind:
* no audio recording
* only 24 minutes of 1920x1080 24fps RAW video in a very expensive 128GB 1000x CF card
* when editing on a very fast computer, playback is around 1.5fps

 

[dirtcastle]

Re: New 5D3 Raw video samples mind blowing!

* when editing on a very fast computer, playback is around 1.5fps

Can you elaborate on this? I'm wondering what this will mean for workflow.

 

[Chosenbydestiny]

Funny how in previous threads everyone wanted RAW video on Canon DSLRs, and now that it can be done everyone in this thread is so MEH about it, hahaha.

 

[jayvo86]

Re: New 5D3 Raw video samples mind blowing!

This is insanely awesome.

But keep in mind:
* no audio recording
* only 24 minutes of 1920x1080 24fps RAW video in a very expensive 128GB 1000x CF card
* when editing on a very fast computer, playback is around 1.5fps

Personally, I don't have interest in a RAW workflow. However, it'd be nice to start with that an convert to Apple Pro Res 422 10 bit before I entered post and be way ahead of stock H.264.

 

[iso79]

I shoot mostly stills so I don't really care either way. It's a nice hack I will neve use.

 

[pastadipizza]

Can we use this version of ML with the new firmware version of 5D Mark3?

 

[cayenne]

Well, if ML is doing a clean room reverse engineer of the camera, that should be perfectly legal. He isn't doing anything that helps 'circumvent' safe guards....like people have come down on gaming mods for. This hack doesn't allow you to circumvent copyrighted material.

Nope, the contract for a fw upgrade (the current cannot be extracted out of the camera) it says you mustn't reverse engineer it at all.

Hmm...what contract? I've never signed a contract with Canon for anything. Are you saying ML signed some contract with Canon?

And I was referring to reverse engineering the hardware, not the software as such. If someone wanted to write a clean room firmware to replace the firmware provided by Canon, there's nothing illegal about that..

 

[HurtinMinorKey]

Re: New 5D3 Raw video samples mind blowing!

http://www.eoshd.com/content/10324/big-news-hands-on-with-continuous-raw-recording-on-canon-5d-mark-iii

He updated the samples! Quality is just insane.

Just like that this may have become the best video DSLR ever. By MILES. And even outdo many of the more (even much more) expensive mid-tier video offerings.

The real crazy thing is that this capability also exists on the 5D2, that means we could have had video like this 5 years ago.

At this point I am convinced that Canon helped ML get this up and running. The timing is just too weird.

I still don't think it's quite on par with the BMCC, but it's definitely debatable now (we need more tests), and it wasn't before.

This is the coolest thing from Canon in the past 4 years, and ostensibly, they had nothing to do with it. ;D

 

[awinphoto]

I shoot mostly stills so I don't really care either way. It's a nice hack I will neve use.

In the words of Sal Cincotta, innovate or die. About time you start to innovate starting with video. =)

 

[cayenne]

Re: New 5D3 Raw video samples mind blowing!

This is insanely awesome.

But keep in mind:
* no audio recording
* only 24 minutes of 1920x1080 24fps RAW video in a very expensive 128GB 1000x CF card
* when editing on a very fast computer, playback is around 1.5fps

Yeah, I read about 15min on a 64GB card, which I think I'd do a couple of them to start with (right now, must one man banding it on private projects)...but could always have one in the camera, one uploading to the computer. I think that would work to start with.

No audio, not that bad...and I've heard possibly they might could do audio later? But even so...just use a clapper and sync in post with external audio....I've got a couple of Rode video mics (latest is the stereo pro still in box)...and I have an older Zoom H2. I'm looking to get a couple of good lav mics that I can hook to small dig recorders, or maybe even the iphone/ipod for micing up talent...

I was thinking workflow might be something along off camera, somehow into Resolve Lite...then out from that to ProRes for FCPX editing...?

Hmm...It might be time for me to build that loaded up Hackintosh I've been toying about for the past year or so....

C

 

[jabbott]

Newmann Films just posted a really neat 5D3 RAW video example here:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wm8A7FH2Qg4

 

[HurtinMinorKey]

Newmann Films just posted a really neat 5D3 RAW video example here:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wm8A7FH2Qg4

Looks like someone who doesn't know what they are doing with RAW... The EOSHD clip is much better. I still want to see people's faces.

 

[LetTheRightLensIn]

Funny how in previous threads everyone wanted RAW video on Canon DSLRs, and now that it can be done everyone in this thread is so MEH about it, hahaha.

They are?? All I see is insane. Mind blowing. etc.

 

[LetTheRightLensIn]

Re: New 5D3 Raw video samples mind blowing!

http://www.eoshd.com/content/10324/big-news-hands-on-with-continuous-raw-recording-on-canon-5d-mark-iii

He updated the samples! Quality is just insane.

Just like that this may have become the best video DSLR ever. By MILES. And even outdo many of the more (even much more) expensive mid-tier video offerings.

The real crazy thing is that this capability also exists on the 5D2, that means we could have had video like this 5 years ago.

At this point I am convinced that Canon helped ML get this up and running. The timing is just too weird.

I still don't think it's quite on par with the BMCC, but it's definitely debatable now (we need more tests), and it wasn't before.

This is the coolest thing from Canon in the past 4 years, and ostensibly, they had nothing to do with it. ;D

I'm not sure about that. So far the 5D2 samples are all jumpy and most I've seen have the same really bad aliasing and moire. The 5D2 sensor doesn't bin and skips tons of lines.

 

[peederj]

Look at how awful the false color artifacts (rainbow colors) are on the BMCC sensor vs. the 5D3 RAW rendering the pebbles on the path up the middle:

http://nofilmschool.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/05/cinema5D_5D_Mark_iii_BMCC.jpg

Game set and match for Canon.

This all comes out clearly on test chart shots but for some reason we are NOT to have test chart shots. Period!

 

[Canon_Tabs]

This might be a dumb question, but will shooting continuous RAW kill off your shutter? From what I've seen so far, the camera captures raw images and you must compile them in post, so do all these raw files add to your cameras actuations? Would really appreciate some insight on this, thanks!

 

[peederj]

This might be a dumb question, but will shooting continuous RAW kill off your shutter? From what I've seen so far, the camera captures raw images and you must compile them in post, so do all these raw files add to your cameras actuations? Would really appreciate some insight on this, thanks!

It will be no different than any other live view mode: mirror is locked up, as I think the shutter is too.

Everything the sensor is doing is 100% identical here...it's just the cripple codec that is being bypassed. Running the codec is actually more processor intensive than skipping it! So the only critical thing here performance wise is all the continuous write activity to the CF card. We will find out what the fast and reliable CF cards are soon this way...

 

[Canon_Tabs]

This might be a dumb question, but will shooting continuous RAW kill off your shutter? From what I've seen so far, the camera captures raw images and you must compile them in post, so do all these raw files add to your cameras actuations? Would really appreciate some insight on this, thanks!

It will be no different than any other live view mode: mirror is locked up, as I think the shutter is too.

Everything the sensor is doing is 100% identical here...it's just the cripple codec that is being bypassed. Running the codec is actually more processor intensive than skipping it! So the only critical thing here performance wise is all the continuous write activity to the CF card. We will find out what the fast and reliable CF cards are soon this way...

Thanks Peederj, I appreciate the explanation!

 

[jabbott]

Looks like someone who doesn't know what they are doing with RAW... The EOSHD clip is much better. I still want to see people's faces.

Did you see the clouds? Those would likely be blown out with regular video.

 

[eyeland]

Look at how awful the false color artifacts (rainbow colors) are on the BMCC sensor vs. the 5D3 RAW rendering the pebbles on the path up the middle:
http://nofilmschool.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/05/cinema5D_5D_Mark_iii_BMCC.jpg

Hmm is this a general issue with Black Magic sensors? Or is it a contrived example?