5DIII pre-order thread

[Hasan]

Should I buy the camera with 24-105 Lens?

Hi you Canon Experts. I need some advise. I have a T2i crop camera with 18-35 kit lens and 70-200 f4 L lens (Non IS). I have pre-ordered both the 5D Mark III alone (through Amazon) 0n 3/2/12 and today decided also to order the camera with the 25-105 lens. I really would like to have the 24-105 Mark II lens, but am bot certain hw long I will have to wait for that lens to become available. My question is, is it okay to buy the current 24-105 lens now, and hopefully sell it on eBay, when the newer lens arrives. Will I get a decent amount of return on it? If I loose less than 150 dollars in the process, I think I will be okay. I have newer sold anything on eBay, so will my untested status be a disadvantage when selling on eBay? Many thanks in advance.

 

[jlev23]

Why are you preordering before you know about the IQ, Dynamic Range and high iso noise? (Im not telling you not to just wondering why)
I will for sure wait untill I know how much IQ improvement there is from 5D2.
Even if the 5D3 is better at all points than 5D2 it would just be impossible for me to buy if the D800 has higher IQ at both low and high iso and is cheaper. In that case I will keep the 5D2 and wait for 5D4. Perhaps even consider switching.

because if you don't pre-order you won't have yours until late summer, and soon as they are available at rental houses in the next month there will never be a 5DMK2 on another professional set, and if you plan on waiting for a MK4 then you'll be waiting 2-3 years.
since you were wondering why...

 

[SomeGuyInNewJersey]

My preorder for the 5d3 was made on B&H at 12:13am on March 2nd... Since then the order has been listed at NEW ORDER PROCESSING. Today that flipped to BACKORDERED I hope that doesnt mean for some reason my order was delayed (credit card authorization or something) and I only got on the list this afternoon...

If so I'l be wwaaaay down the list...

 

[Neeneko]

because if you don't pre-order you won't have yours until late summer, and soon as they are available at rental houses in the next month there will never be a 5DMK2 on another professional set, and if you plan on waiting for a MK4 then you'll be waiting 2-3 years.
since you were wondering why...

That does not really answer the question. The person is asking why people are pre-ordering a camera when there is still so little information about how well the camera will actually meet their needs or how good the improvements actually are, not to mention what design flaws might be present.. with the implication that it would be more purdent to wait a few months and see how they get vetted.

As for studios.. I am skeptical that the 5D3 will wipe out 5D2 professional use overnight like that. The camera has some marginal improvements, but I imagine quite a few places are not going to be so careless with their money that they completely convert to the 'go faster stripes' model so quickly and completely, esp when the 5D2 has proven it can be used for professional published (and televised) work that is acceptable to currend end-user standards.

 

[jlev23]

because if you don't pre-order you won't have yours until late summer, and soon as they are available at rental houses in the next month there will never be a 5DMK2 on another professional set, and if you plan on waiting for a MK4 then you'll be waiting 2-3 years.
since you were wondering why...

That does not really answer the question. The person is asking why people are pre-ordering a camera when there is still so little information about how well the camera will actually meet their needs or how good the improvements actually are, not to mention what design flaws might be present.. with the implication that it would be more purdent to wait a few months and see how they get vetted.

As for studios.. I am skeptical that the 5D3 will wipe out 5D2 professional use overnight like that. The camera has some marginal improvements, but I imagine quite a few places are not going to be so careless with their money that they completely convert to the 'go faster stripes' model so quickly and completely, esp when the 5D2 has proven it can be used for professional published (and televised) work that is acceptable to currend end-user standards.

well i have to say you are dead wrong on this, as someone that orders the camera package every week for my upcoming shoots, i would never order a lesser camera body then the newest model that is out and available. for example as soon as the red epic became available, there was never a red one camera on my set again. its not worth the slight discount not to have the newest technology on a professional set. as another example, since the new 70-200mm MK2 has been available, there has never been a 70-200 MK1 on my 5D sets again. sorry to inform you of this, but in my 20 years of filming professionally i see cameras come and go that fast, even back in the film world. we all shot on arri BL's, then one day the 535 came out and there was never another BL on set.
sure for your personal projects you can still shoot with it, but if you are entering or in the professional rhelm of the industry, we are moving on to the next generation of cameras and yes, its that fast!
also, if he wants to see the big Improvement, this is one of the best examples i have found, but the real reason we are all preordering is because the canon dslrs have proven themselves, so much so that by name they are actually written into treatments. "this is a 5D job"
it seems to me that the improvements are far above marginal and this price for studios in ridiculously cheap to upgrade, plus its not the studios who upgrade, its the rental houses. and you want to know what the clients really care about? that their monitors stay in HD while you are recording, for that alone nike does not allow me to shoot on 5Ds, they specify 7Ds for all their shoots and when i got to the bottom of it, the reason was client monitoring.
http://www.eoshd.com/content/7328/astonishing-canon-5d-mark-iii-iso-12800-video

go ahead though, wait a few months, i will have made most of my money back on it by the time you get yours in august.
these things will be back ordered for most of the year according to some websites.

 

[nikespex]

I pre-ordered from B&H. Email receipt is stamped 9:34PST on 3/1/2012.

Does anyone know at some point if B&H will provide an expected ship date? I know Canon has said "end of March", but I'm wondering if B&H will let me know where my order falls in the queue.

 

[K-amps]

Re: Should I buy the camera with 24-105 Lens?

Hi you Canon Experts. I need some advise. I have a T2i crop camera with 18-35 kit lens and 70-200 f4 L lens (Non IS). I have pre-ordered both the 5D Mark III alone (through Amazon) 0n 3/2/12 and today decided also to order the camera with the 25-105 lens. I really would like to have the 24-105 Mark II lens, but am bot certain hw long I will have to wait for that lens to become available. My question is, is it okay to buy the current 24-105 lens now, and hopefully sell it on eBay, when the newer lens arrives. Will I get a decent amount of return on it? If I loose less than 150 dollars in the process, I think I will be okay. I have newer sold anything on eBay, so will my untested status be a disadvantage when selling on eBay? Many thanks in advance.

Get the 24-105 now... it could be one year till you get your hands on the mk.II.

 

[nikespex]

I pre-ordered from B&H. Email receipt is stamped 9:34PST on 3/1/2012.

Does anyone know at some point if B&H will provide an expected ship date? I know Canon has said "end of March", but I'm wondering if B&H will let me know where my order falls in the queue.

I suspect not. Basically in the door and back out. Maybe a couple days if they notify them when they leave Japan.

Thanks Astrogarden. Hoping to get in on the first shipment as I have a trip planned in mid-April. Based on this thread I'm guessing the pre-orders started at midnight EST?

 

[FyreStorm]

Anyone else double billed?

Actually let me rephrase that...when I ordered 1218 am EST Friday morning (Thursday night) my credit card sent me a notification via email that my card was being charged.

But then got another notification just now that my card was being charged?

Could it be the first was the hold charge (reserving space on my CC) but that the bodies might actually be getting ready to ship?

Is it likely that Canon is moving to a more modern delivery system like Apple, announce it and deliver it with days?

Maybe it's just my optimism...thoughts?

 

[Bob_McBob]

I just realized B&H charged the full amount to my credit card, rather than doing a temporary authorization as both the item page and checkout page state (even with shipping set to Canada). I now have a $3600 charge on my card with no camera in sight for months. I also no longer have the option of cancelling and and ordering elsewhere if necessary, because I end up losing the exchange fees on both the payment and refund.

I see buried in the international order page it says "International orders are charged at the time the order is placed." Considering this is their standard order policy anyway, and the web site informed me multiple times I would not be charged, I'd say it's pretty misleading to do this. Reading around, it would appear a number of Canadian photographers discovered this the hard way with recent Nikon camera pre-orders. I would not have ordered from B&H if I'd know this up front. Adorama does not charge international orders like this.

I am not impressed, B&H.

 

[jlev23]

I just realized B&H charged the full amount to my credit card, rather than doing a temporary authorization as both the item page and checkout page state (even with shipping set to Canada). I now have a $3600 charge on my card with no camera in sight for months. I also no longer have the option of cancelling and and ordering elsewhere if necessary, because I end up losing the exchange fees on both the payment and refund.

I see buried in the international order page it says "International orders are charged at the time the order is placed." Considering this is their standard order policy anyway, and the web site informed me multiple times I would not be charged, I'd say it's pretty misleading to do this. Reading around, it would appear a number of Canadian photographers discovered this the hard way with recent Nikon camera pre-orders. I would not have ordered from B&H if I'd know this up front. Adorama does not charge international orders like this.

I am not impressed, B&H.

you can just call them and cancel at anytime before it ships and you will get a full refund. my credit card sees it as a charge right now too, but b an h assured me it was an authorization and it will go away in a day or so. regardless, you can cancel any time by calling them. they even take returns for a full refund as well if you are not happy with the product.

 

[Drama79]

I didn't know this either, and have also been fully charged by B&H. Not massively happy about it, although I'm looking at the upside that this should mean I am at least in the first batch....

 

[ManChicken]

I just logged into my bank's site and see a B&H charge for the ~$3500 on 2-Mar followed by a credit for the same amount on 4-Mar. So you might check again.

 

[feigenbaum]

I just realized B&H charged the full amount to my credit card, rather than doing a temporary authorization as both the item page and checkout page state (even with shipping set to Canada). I now have a $3600 charge on my card with no camera in sight for months. I also no longer have the option of cancelling and and ordering elsewhere if necessary, because I end up losing the exchange fees on both the payment and refund.

I see buried in the international order page it says "International orders are charged at the time the order is placed." Considering this is their standard order policy anyway, and the web site informed me multiple times I would not be charged, I'd say it's pretty misleading to do this. Reading around, it would appear a number of Canadian photographers discovered this the hard way with recent Nikon camera pre-orders. I would not have ordered from B&H if I'd know this up front. Adorama does not charge international orders like this.

I am not impressed, B&H.

you can just call them and cancel at anytime before it ships and you will get a full refund. my credit card sees it as a charge right now too, but b an h assured me it was an authorization and it will go away in a day or so. regardless, you can cancel any time by calling them. they even take returns for a full refund as well if you are not happy with the product.

You can also do online chat to modify/cancel orders.

 

[h4ldol]

It says this now on the 5dIII product page on Amazon:

This item has not yet been released. This item is in high demand and we have taken orders up to our initial allocations. We will continue to accept pre-orders and fill them as soon as additional inventory becomes available.

I'm sure Amazon must have one of the largest allocations so if they've already pre-sold all of the initial allotment, they must have sold a whole lot in only a day or two.

Just following up my earlier post about the product page on Amazon, which now has a different, more generic, pre-order message:

This item has not yet been released. You may pre-order it now and we will deliver it to you when it arrives.

Wonder why the message changed, perhaps Amazon was able to secure a larger preorder allotment given their preeminent status as a major online retailer?

 

[Bob_McBob]

you can just call them and cancel at anytime before it ships and you will get a full refund. my credit card sees it as a charge right now too, but b an h assured me it was an authorization and it will go away in a day or so. regardless, you can cancel any time by calling them. they even take returns for a full refund as well if you are not happy with the product.

You can also do online chat to modify/cancel orders.

You guys are missing one of the major points of my post. Yes, I can cancel my order, but I will receive a refund in US dollars, which means I lose the exchange fees on both the initial charge as well as the refund. This would be over $100. It basically means I am stuck with the order unless I want to pay $100 or more to cancel it.

Just to clear something up for other posters: if it wasn't obvious from my post talking about exchange fees and shipping to Canada, I live in Canada.

 

[eeek]

I've worked with B&H on a few issues before and they were extremely flexible and accommodating. Call and talk to them before you do anything- they'll work with you. Even if you are Canadian. (c:

 

[DeepShadows]

I bought through B&H as well but used paypal to check out so I could use some available USD from lens sales and they already took my money and charged my credit card..... my paypal account shows $0 so it's obviously not a pre-auth as some have stated. how do you pre-auth cash?

 

[iso79]

I pre-ordered from Amazon. Anyone know what date at the end of March they might start shipping? I'll be in Japan last week of March until April 1st and hope it doesn't ship until I get back.

 

[Dylan777]

Why are you preordering before you know about the IQ, Dynamic Range and high iso noise? (Im not telling you not to just wondering why)I will for sure wait untill I know how much IQ improvement there is from 5D2.
Even if the 5D3 is better at all points than 5D2 it would just be impossible for me to buy if the D800 has higher IQ at both low and high iso and is cheaper. In that case I will keep the 5D2 and wait for 5D4. Perhaps even consider switching.

I usually do the same(waiting for real reviews, before buy). However, once I saw the 5D III has same AF as 1D X , 6fps, plus DigitalRev where Kai said ISO got huge improvement...I know what I have to do....so I did...through BH.