5DS scores at DXO **now posted**

ahsanford

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When will DXO drop the chaos bomb on the interwebs?

http://www.dxomark.com/Cameras/Compare/Side-by-side/Canon-EOS-5DS-versus-Canon-EOS-5DS-R-versus-Canon-EOS-5D-Mark-III___1008_1009_795

My guess: if the score eclipses the D810, they will announce late on a Friday and effectively bury the story.

If the score is less than the D810, it will be announced on a Monday morning. :P

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brianftpc said:
It will score lower than the 5d mkiii.

I wouldn't go that far. The sports/ISO score should be lower, but DXO loves them pixels.

Not that I care. It's DXO, after all. I just want to see people overreact to anything they say -- which is a certainty to occur.

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Re: 5DS scores at DXO still not posted

meywd said:
3kramd5 said:
They're probably just fine-tuning the new algorithm.

If MFR = Canon, COMPOSITE_SCORE = DXOONE_SCORE - [tbd]

Or waiting for the a7R II to release and score the 5Ds(r) lower
I don't really care about their sensor "score". I don't sell sensors, I sell images which are created by capturing light. If I want good images I need to light my subject well and have good composition. This is what my clients want and expect. They couldn't care less about all the mental masturbation that goes on in photography forums.
 
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Re: 5DS scores at DXO still not posted

3kramd5 said:
They're probably just fine-tuning the new algorithm.

If MFR = Canon, COMPOSITE_SCORE = DXOONE_SCORE - [tbd]

I agree their algorithm likely can't handle the ratings and need to figure out a new one since all of these new cameras are reaching about the same scores. I don't really care about the scores. Never influenced my purchase decision and never will.
 
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Re: 5DS scores at DXO still not posted

dilbert said:
ahsanford said:
When will DXO drop the chaos bomb on the interwebs?

When they've received the cameras and put it through their measuring system.

It has been noted before the DxO is a French company. I would not be surprised if right now most of the company is on summer vacation. In Europe, getting 5 weeks vacation _per year_ is considered normal and this often means that people take 2 or 3 weeks holiday over summer (July/August.)

Yes, the 2 weeks of annual paid vacation in the USA is insulting and disgraceful.

5 weeks only ? You are talking about France ;) ... even in Germany we get more ;) (28-30 working days is usual here)
 
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1982chris911 said:
dilbert said:
ahsanford said:
When will DXO drop the chaos bomb on the interwebs?

When they've received the cameras and put it through their measuring system.

It has been noted before the DxO is a French company. I would not be surprised if right now most of the company is on summer vacation. In Europe, getting 5 weeks vacation _per year_ is considered normal and this often means that people take 2 or 3 weeks holiday over summer (July/August.)

Yes, the 2 weeks of annual paid vacation in the USA is insulting and disgraceful.

5 weeks only ? You are talking about France ;) ... even in Germany we get more ;) (28-30 working days is usual here)

And pretty soon in Greece everyone will get 365 days!
 
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Re: 5DS scores at DXO still not posted

Canon Rumors said:
The sensor scores for the EOS 5DS and EOS 5DS R have been completed. They'll be posted tomorrow.

Teaser: They're lower than the D810 and the 5DS ranks slightly better than the 5DS R, mainly because of ISO performance.

You are such a tease. Did they rate ISO/Sports at the pixel level and give it a 7D2-like score for that metric?

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Canon Rumors said:
The sensor scores for the EOS 5DS and EOS 5DS R have been completed. They'll be posted tomorrow.

Teaser: They're lower than the D810 and the 5DS ranks slightly better than the 5DS R, mainly because of ISO performance.

Also: I'm super geeked that we finally have a number. Scarecrow's crazy gas from Batman Begins is about to be unleashed on the interwebs. This site and so many like it are going to melt down from the forum traffic this will generate.

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Re: 5DS scores at DXO still not posted

Canon Rumors said:
The sensor scores for the EOS 5DS and EOS 5DS R have been completed. They'll be posted tomorrow.

Teaser: They're lower than the D810 and the 5DS ranks slightly better than the 5DS R, mainly because of ISO performance.
My guess is they'll rate it between 85 and 87. I'll be surprised if it scores higher than 89. Regardless I'll get one later this year, either by mid-September or if that's not possbile then November-December time.
 
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StudentOfLight said:
Canon Rumors said:
The sensor scores for the EOS 5DS and EOS 5DS R have been completed. They'll be posted tomorrow.

Teaser: They're lower than the D810 and the 5DS ranks slightly better than the 5DS R, mainly because of ISO performance.
My guess is they'll rate it between 85 and 87. I'll be surprised if it scores higher than 89. Regardless I'll get one later this year, either by mid-September or if that's not possbile then November-December time.

Hyper-short attention span TL/DR Nikon fanboys will have their fun with an overall score and dynamic range like they always do, but I think others (including Canon folks) could make a fair beef about the Sports/ISO score.

The 5DS represents a step forward in resolution but at a pixel level represents a step back in noise. Bryan Carnathan makes a fair point that downsizing 5DS pictures to 5D3 resolution mutes this difference to some degree, but you get my point: all those pixels don't come without some tradeoff.

Some would argue that SoNikon's climb up the megapixel ladder in 2012 didn't come at the cost of anything IQ-wise (other than hard drive space) -- moving from the D700 to the D800 tripled the pixel count, tacked on 2 more stops of DR and the high ISO performance improved.

I think -- reasonably or not -- the Canon faithful were hoping the 5DS sensors would similarly raise the bar on all metrics. So I think the DXO news will drop like a lead turd. A ton of people will (correctly) poop on DXO's charmingly incoherent methods, and the others will have a tantrum and threaten to leave Canon. ::)

Everything old is new again.

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Re: 5DS scores at DXO drop **tomorrow** (i.e. 7/8/15)

Lens Sharpness scores is what I'm most interested in. I like to have the ability to crop or reframe photos. Many time I shoot landscape and crop and frame the shot in portrait to give it a different look.
 
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