6D or 5DM3 need your help guys ( UPDATE : bought the 6D )

[BoneDoc]

Re: 6D or 5DM3 need your help guys

You don't need it with the 41 cross point. You just move the point to where you want it to focus and that's it. For moving subjects like kids, I put it on AI Servo, and I'm good most of the time, even with the Sigma 85 1.4

 

[BinAbul]

Re: 6D or 5DM3 need your help guys

thanks again guys for all your kind here

now it's settle for me :

Camera 6D 110%

lens :

1) EF 24-70mm f/2.8L II USM or EF 24-105mm f/4L IS USM

2) EF 70-200mm f/2.8L IS II USM

3) EF 35mm f/2


guys if i get the 24-105 from kit deal , it is okay to get 24-70 2.8II or no need for it ? i saw some images made from 6D and 24-70 lens and they are amazing / if i don't get the 24-105 from kit deal which one i should take ? or take both

because this camera only take one SD card and i shoot RAW which SD is good ,also waiting for tripod info

 

[cid]

Re: 6D or 5DM3 need your help guys

guys if i get the 24-105 from kit deal , it is okay to get 24-70 2.8II or no need for it ? i saw some images made from 6D and 24-70 lens and they are amazing / if i don't get the 24-105 from kit deal which one i should take ? or take both

because this camera only take one SD card and i shoot RAW which SD is good ,also waiting for tripod info

I think it's bit waste of money to have two overlaping lenses, if you are not shure, then get 24-70 since you want to buy 70-200 you will have long end covered too.

Sandisk Extreme or Sandisk Extreme Pro SDHC are great and widely acknowledged to be pretty durable

 

[Badger]

Re: 6D or 5DM3 need your help guys

I was in your situation over a year ago and got the 6D with the 24-105. I was really happy with it till I started playing with primes. I find there is a distinct improvement in image quality with the primes and I'm am finding more and more that I'm using the primes more than the 24-105. Having said that, I would describe the 24-105 as a very versatile and capable lens which will be used for occasions where flexibility is the priority vs. maximum image quality.

 

[Sporgon]

Re: 6D or 5DM3 need your help guys

The 24-105 comes into it's own when used relatively close. Anyone who has shot a wedding will know that that is when this lens really shines; in fact I'm sure it was designed around the requirements of wedding photography. It copes really well with black suits and white dresses.

Resolving small detail far away is not its forte though, so it is not the worlds best landscape lens, unless you stitch and then it's as good as anything.

The 24-70 f4 IS is better in this respect but it's not as good at 105 of course

 

[rs]

Re: 6D or 5DM3 need your help guys

also waiting for tripod info

Price, stability and portability are three factors which need balancing here. You can't have all three unfortunately.

For stills, a good ball head with an arca swiss type quick release is probably the most sensible way to go. And for stability, try to get a tripod which extends to the height you'll typically use it at without requiring the centre column to be extended.

Beyond that, I'm guessing for travel you want something that's both light and compact. If you want something light and compact which is also stable with a good head, it's serious money.

On the other hand, you could compromise and just go for a top end gorillapod, and keep an eye out for rocks, benches, railings or branches to get the camera into the sort of position you require.

Whichever way you go, make sure the tripod is rated to hold a lot more than the weight of your heaviest lens/body combined. If you buy the right tripod now, it could do you for countless years - long after the body and even lenses you're planning on buying now are retired.

 

[BoneDoc]

Re: 6D or 5DM3 need your help guys

If you don't shoot wider than 2.8, then you don't need a prime. The 24-70II is as good / better in many ways. It's sharp wide open.

Unless you do wide angle landscape stuff, then 24-70II and eventually the 70-200II will cover most of your need. I have the Tamron 70-200VC, and that worked great for me as well.

 

[BinAbul]

Re: 6D or 5DM3 need your help guys

also waiting for tripod info

Price, stability and portability are three factors which need balancing here. You can't have all three unfortunately.

For stills, a good ball head with an arca swiss type quick release is probably the most sensible way to go. And for stability, try to get a tripod which extends to the height you'll typically use it at without requiring the centre column to be extended.

Beyond that, I'm guessing for travel you want something that's both light and compact. If you want something light and compact which is also stable with a good head, it's serious money.

On the other hand, you could compromise and just go for a top end gorillapod, and keep an eye out for rocks, benches, railings or branches to get the camera into the sort of position you require.

Whichever way you go, make sure the tripod is rated to hold a lot more than the weight of your heaviest lens/body combined. If you buy the right tripod now, it could do you for countless years - long after the body and even lenses you're planning on buying now are retired.

yeah i need to invest on tripod cuz i don't want to buy one every sort of time

also they told me to buy good head

 

[Dylan777]

Re: 6D or 5DM3 need your help guys

thanks again guys for all your kind here

now it's settle for me :

Camera 6D 110%

lens :

1) EF 24-70mm f/2.8L II USM or EF 24-105mm f/4L IS USM

2) EF 70-200mm f/2.8L IS II USM

3) EF 35mm f/2


guys if i get the 24-105 from kit deal , it is okay to get 24-70 2.8II or no need for it ? i saw some images made from 6D and 24-70 lens and they are amazing / if i don't get the 24-105 from kit deal which one i should take ? or take both

because this camera only take one SD card and i shoot RAW which SD is good ,also waiting for tripod info

I will take 24-70 II over 24105 any day. If you can add 70-200mm f2.8 is ii then that is a killer combo.

Many-many CR members ended up putting their 24-105 on ebay or CL after using 24-70 II. There is no point having both of these lenses in the bag.

 

[Mr_Canuck]

Re: 6D or 5DM3 need your help guys

Can you provide more information on what sorts of shots you like to take? What subjects? What kind of light?

And then, how important is portability while travelling? For very many people, a 70-200/2.8 is going to be one huge and heavy lens to carry around. Others wouldn't live without it.

You might be best suited to a 50/f1.4, or you might be best suited to a 16-35, or maybe a 100 macro. But it totally depends on how and what you shoot. And on how much gear you're willing to carry everywhere.

If you ask 100 people, which is better, zooms or fixed-primes? They will say, Yes they are!

The person who said: first buy a 6D (you've made it pretty clear that's the body for you) and then go to the store and take lots of time trying out lenses... is correct!

 

[cid]

Re: 6D or 5DM3 need your help guys

If you ask 100 people, which is better, zooms or fixed-primes? They will say, Yes they are!

The person who said: first buy a 6D (you've made it pretty clear that's the body for you) and then go to the store and take lots of time trying out lenses... is correct!

+1 totally agree, 6D is body suited for you, but you have to take time and try lenses! everyone can recommend one .... everyone has some of his own preferences ... but you have to try it and realise which one creates the "wow" effect for you!

 

[jdramirez]

Re: 6D or 5DM3 need your help guys

thanks again guys for all your kind here

now it's settle for me :

Camera 6D 110%

lens :

1) EF 24-70mm f/2.8L II USM or EF 24-105mm f/4L IS USM

2) EF 70-200mm f/2.8L IS II USM

3) EF 35mm f/2


guys if i get the 24-105 from kit deal , it is okay to get 24-70 2.8II or no need for it ? i saw some images made from 6D and 24-70 lens and they are amazing / if i don't get the 24-105 from kit deal which one i should take ? or take both

because this camera only take one SD card and i shoot RAW which SD is good ,also waiting for tripod info

I will take 24-70 II over 24105 any day. If you can add 70-200mm f2.8 is ii then that is a killer combo.

Many-many CR members ended up putting their 24-105 on ebay or CL after using 24-70 II. There is no point having both of these lenses in the bag.

I've bought 4 24-105s and I've sold three. But I'm weird. If someone is willing to pay me more than I can buy another for... you have a deal.

Having said that.. there was minimal variation among the three I have used... so that's a plus.

 

[Khalai]

Re: 6D or 5DM3 need your help guys

Get 24-70 II and/or 70-200 II and you're basicly set for a decade at least with your lenses (unless you break them OFC). The only downsides this setup has are weight and price. But everytime I nag about how 70-200 II is heavy, I completely forgot about it, when I browse the photos on my PC. Same thing now with 24-70 II. With these two gems, you don't have to worry about sharpness or contrast, just enjoy taking pictures

 

[cid]

Re: 6D or 5DM3 need your help guys

The only downsides this setup has are weight and price. But everytime I nag about how 70-200 II is heavy, I completely forgot about it, when I browse the photos on my PC. Same thing now with 24-70 II. With these two gems, you don't have to worry about sharpness or contrast, just enjoy taking pictures

I can only agree with this

 

[BinAbul]

Re: 6D or 5DM3 need your help guys

thanks guys

gezz i can't go for all lens now

1) EF 24-70mm f/2.8L II USM or EF 24-105mm f/4L IS USM

2) EF 70-200mm f/2.8L IS II USM LATER

3) EF 35mm f/2

i think i will go for these 2 now , also guys

i saw some reviews about this lens EF 24-70mm f/4L IS USM they said it's also good on sharpness and contrast , only different is the 1 F-stop more light



for me i want to shoot landscape, building, street , desert ...etc maybe some portrait of my kids


Do i need flash ? for the camera , i may use some shoots at night near lake or something

Speedlite 600EX-RT , and which remote is good to use the camera


i know i ask so much here but i need to start in good shape

 

[verysimplejason]

Re: 6D or 5DM3 need your help guys

thanks guys

gezz i can't go for all lens now

1) EF 24-70mm f/2.8L II USM or EF 24-105mm f/4L IS USM

2) EF 70-200mm f/2.8L IS II USM LATER

3) EF 35mm f/2

i think i will go for these 2 now , also guys

i saw some reviews about this lens EF 24-70mm f/4L IS USM they said it's also good on sharpness and contrast , only different is the 1 F-stop more light



for me i want to shoot landscape, building, street , desert ...etc maybe some portrait of my kids


Do i need flash ? for the camera , i may use some shoots at night near lake or something

Speedlite 600EX-RT , and which remote is good to use the camera


i know i ask so much here but i need to start in good shape

Just a suggestion, it might be good to consider getting the 24-105L as a kit lens. You can sell it later for a profit if you really want to go for the 24-70mm F2.8 II. I initially planned to get the 24-70II also but settled with the 24-105L due to its flexibility. I find that I like primes more when doing portrait photography. For the kind of money for 24-70L II, you can already get a good 17-40L and a 24-105L. (Just thinking out loud...) For most landscapes, I kind of prefer an FL wider than 24mm. You can also take a look at the very good Samyang 14mm if you're not the "filter" type.

If you like manual, a good Yongnuo flash + Yongnuo trigger are very good investments. Currently, I'm using Nissin flash + Yongnuo manual flash and triggers and didn't find any problem. If you want to use E-ttl though, Canon flashes might be a better investment.

 

[Dylan777]

Re: 6D or 5DM3 need your help guys

thanks guys

gezz i can't go for all lens now

1) EF 24-70mm f/2.8L II USM or EF 24-105mm f/4L IS USM

2) EF 70-200mm f/2.8L IS II USM LATER

3) EF 35mm f/2

i think i will go for these 2 now , also guys

i saw some reviews about this lens EF 24-70mm f/4L IS USM they said it's also good on sharpness and contrast , only different is the 1 F-stop more light



for me i want to shoot landscape, building, street , desert ...etc maybe some portrait of my kids


Do i need flash ? for the camera , i may use some shoots at night near lake or something

Speedlite 600EX-RT , and which remote is good to use the camera


i know i ask so much here but i need to start in good shape

My 2cents: I do not see much benefit adding 35mm f2 if you plan to get 24-70 II. Save your $$$ for 70-200 f2.8 IS II or speedlite.

135L is a great lens for portrait, maybe 85 f1.8.

 

[justaCanonuser]

Re: 6D or 5DM3 need your help guys

i want to shoot landscape, people and buildings , I may use the camera for portrait shoot

my brain is telling me to get the 6D and my heart telling me to get 5DM3

now guys i need some suggest to buy lens , tripods ...etc

when i bought my old dslr i get it with : EF-S 55-250 1:4-5.6 IS , I don't know in the link same mine or mine is older

then i bought : EFS 17-85 macro 0.35m/1.2ft Ultrasonic

so what shall i buy

As others posted here, you'll need a 5D3 only if you shoot action or use extremely fast lenses. I shoot often with an EF 85mm f/1.2 (portrait, social, street) and I won't miss the superb AF system of my 5D3 then because of the paper thin depth of field of such a lens. Otherwise a 6D will serve your needs perfectly, and it's lighter.

I am a bit of a crazy prime freak but looking at your original list I think one or two zooms will be the best choice as travel lenses for you. I'd recommend to check those options:

24-105 mm f/4; the new Sigma has quite good reviews, Bryan Carnathan's is worth reading
http://www.the-digital-picture.com/Reviews/Sigma-24-105mm-f-4.0-DG-OS-HSM-Art-Lens.aspx
(the only problem with 3rd party lenses always is AF inconsistency, so Canon's 24-105/4 may be a safer option)

or

24-70 f/2.8 (Canon, Tamron, Sigma) or Canon's lighter f/4 standard zoom. The fast Canon is superb but has no IS, the Tamron is very good for the money including a very good IS (VC), but it's AF performance is significantly less reliable than a native Canon lens (I have it and use it with my 5D3 and 7D). Canon's f/4 is lighter with IS but does not allow that much freedom of composition you get with a fast lens.

plus a tele zoom:
EF 70-200 mm f/4 L IS USM: I have both this one and its faster big brother F/2.8 II (which is a brilliant lens), but the f/4 is a superb light travelling lens, in particular very good for tele landscape shooting. If you are interested I highly recommend the newer IS version because it is sharper than the cheaper non-IS version.

EF 70-300mm f/4-5.6L IS USM: I don't have it (I combine one of my 70-200's with an EF 300/4 to cover this range), but all reviews I read are praising this zoom. It is not cheap but obviously worth the money, and it is relatively small and light.

 

[wickidwombat]

Re: 6D or 5DM3 need your help guys

thanks guys

gezz i can't go for all lens now

1) EF 24-70mm f/2.8L II USM or EF 24-105mm f/4L IS USM

2) EF 70-200mm f/2.8L IS II USM LATER

3) EF 35mm f/2

i think i will go for these 2 now , also guys

i saw some reviews about this lens EF 24-70mm f/4L IS USM they said it's also good on sharpness and contrast , only different is the 1 F-stop more light



for me i want to shoot landscape, building, street , desert ...etc maybe some portrait of my kids


Do i need flash ? for the camera , i may use some shoots at night near lake or something

Speedlite 600EX-RT , and which remote is good to use the camera


i know i ask so much here but i need to start in good shape

My 2cents: I do not see much benefit adding 35mm f2 if you plan to get 24-70 II. Save your $$$ for 70-200 f2.8 IS II or speedlite.

135L is a great lens for portrait, maybe 85 f1.8.

agree here 24-70 II and the 135 f2L (look around for second hand they can be had cheap and come up often i paid $700 for mine)

 

[NancyP]

Re: 6D or 5DM3 need your help guys

6D user here. If you aren't shooting fast action as your mainstay, 6D is great. If you are primarily a sports photographer, get the 5D3. Lens: For a one-lens travel solution, you might go for either the kit lens 24-105mm f/4 or for the Sigma 24-105mm f/4 (200 to 250 grams heavier! weight may be a big issue for you). Two-lens travel solution: 24-70 f/4L IS or 24-105 (either brand) or 24-70 f/2.8 (Tamron or Canon), plus Canon 70-200 f/4L IS or Canon 70-300 f/4-5.6 L IS. Canon 70-200 f/2.8 L IS II is a great lens, but it is heavy. If you like ultrawide views, add the Korean-made Samyang/ Bower/ Rokinon/ Hanimex/ Pro-Optic 14mm f/2.8 manual focus lens - this is a great lens, particularly if you like to do astro-landscapes. If you like doing high-quality (low-ISO) low-light shots you might also consider bringing a lighter-weight tripod.

Do your research, count up the grams, choose accordingly. If you are too tired of lugging around a huge kit, you won't shoot as much.