6DII price tag and MP count rumor

[The Supplanter]

I beg Canon to make this thing with a fully articulating screen like the 70D. I'll be first to pre-order if they do.

 

[In-The-Dark]

Im not really into the MP count. Canon could make it 24, heck they could even retain 20 if they want to . If someone wants higher MP's, they can opt for either the 5D IV or the 5DS/R variants.
But please Canon, improve the AF - more AF points (plus cross-type ones), wider spread, etc. . . . and a lighter body would be appreciated.

 

[rfdesigner]

Im not really into the MP count. Canon could make it 24, heck they could even retain 20 if they want to . If someone wants higher MP's, they can opt for either the 5D IV or the 5DS/R variants.
But please Canon, improve the AF - more AF points (plus cross-type ones), wider spread, etc. . . . and a lighter body would be appreciated.

+1

uber-low-light beats Mpixies, 20 is more than I need right now, zero pattern noise looks like a done deal.

I'd also go for 90% QE while I'm at it (backside illumination, plus Bayer matrix of course) like page 4 of: http://www.e2v.com/resources/account/download-datasheet/3882

+accurate, widespread AF, but don't care so much about hyper-speed or tracking, so 19 double cross giving f8 focus to -4EV would make my 6D look pedestrian and give me an "itch in the wallet"

and keep the mag frame, without that I'll certainly be staying put.

 

[rs]

24mpx would be fine with me, although the original 6d had a slightly smaller sensor than the 5D III, (20.2mpx vs 22.3mpx), it was actually a better performer in low light. The gap in the rumored 6D II sensor size vs the 5D IV is slightly larger than before. I would have expected a 28mpx sensor, but if the new sensor becomes the low light king again, even at 24mpx, count me in. I don't expect a huge increase in fps, but I am very curious as to the AF points, (number of points, sensitivity, cross types, spread and how many will work with my 400mm f/5.6 lens with a 1.4x teleconverter).

MP count is not an indication of sensor size. All bodies mentioned feature a FF sensor, of approx 36mm x 24mm.

 

[Loswr]

24mpx would be fine with me, although the original 6d had a slightly smaller sensor than the 5D III, (20.2mpx vs 22.3mpx), it was actually a better performer in low light. The gap in the rumored 6D II sensor size vs the 5D IV is slightly larger than before. I would have expected a 28mpx sensor, but if the new sensor becomes the low light king again, even at 24mpx, count me in. I don't expect a huge increase in fps, but I am very curious as to the AF points, (number of points, sensitivity, cross types, spread and how many will work with my 400mm f/5.6 lens with a 1.4x teleconverter).

MP count is not an indication of sensor size. All bodies mentioned feature a FF sensor, of approx 36mm x 24mm.

True, but Canon's specs list the 6D as 35.8mm x 23.9mm, and the 5DIII as approx. 36mm x 24mm, so it may be that the 6D sensor is, indeed, slightly smaller.

 

[MeanGreeny]

I beg Canon to make this thing with a fully articulating screen like the 70D. I'll be first to pre-order if they do.

You can be second in the queue It's the only reason I'd upgrade from my 6D. 17mm and 24mm Tilt Shift Lenses and creaky knees just don't play well together

 

[tron]

What do you guys think of the likelihood of Dual SD slot? I keep seeing it listed in all rumors.
Better sensors than 5D IV? Better ISO & Dynamic range?

I think you will see dual SD slots.

If I were Canon (I'm not) I would give it the same sensor as the 5DIV. Never understood the rationale for giving the 6D a different sensor in the first place. Just as the 7D and the XXD models have shared the same sensor, it makes sense to have these two full framers using the same sensor. There are plenty of other ways to differentiate the two. If you give the 6D less MP count, then 5D owners feel like they are getting less high ISO performance, if you give it more MP, then some will feel it's too close to the 5DS.

This is a reasonable reasoning.

However:

1. They (Canon) claim they always put the best sensor available.
2. They have to differentiate somehow so if they had the same sensor they would have to make strong cuts in other features, AF for sure, 1 card only (that may still happen) and much more which I would rather not imagine now. OK they will do but maybe they would have to do more...
3. Canon cameras always tempt us by not having any model that is a 100% superset of all others. No matter how advanced or new a Canon camera is there is always another Canon that is better in some points (and worse in others). So if it has worse AF and less IS it will probably have better DR and high iso performance (than 5D4).

 

[rrcphoto]

Unlikely Canon would set a price this far ahead of release.

of course they would. the price of the item probably determines how and what gets on it.

and it won't be BSI.

 

[BeenThere]

Unlikely Canon would set a price this far ahead of release.

of course they would. the price of the item probably determines how and what gets on it.

and it won't be BSI.

why? If it's not yet available, they can set the price to meet the market conditions at the time. Of course they have a target manufacturing cost for the developers, but a lot of factors affect manufacture's recommended retail price; not the least of which are exchange rates and current competition.

 

[Orangutan]

Unlikely Canon would set a price this far ahead of release.

of course they would. the price of the item probably determines how and what gets on it.

and it won't be BSI.

why? If it's not yet available, they can set the price to meet the market conditions at the time. Of course they have a target manufacturing cost for the developers, but a lot of factors affect manufacture's recommended retail price; not the least of which are exchange rates and current competition.

Just my guess, but you're both right and both wrong: a target price range is likely created when the project is kicked-off to help determine scope. The specific price within that range will be determined by market conditions and bean counters.

 

[BeenThere]

Also a guess, but I will guess yes on BSI.

 

[Berowne]

I think, that the 6DII will be a replacement of the 6D and the 5DIII with the Price being in the Region of the 5DIII.