7D Mark II Firmware update??

[Mt Spokane Photography]

I love my 7d2! But coming from a 350d I think I'd love a faulty 7d2 too!

I feel like my keeper rate has increased quite alot but I suppose that should be the case compared to 350d.

However Im not getting THAT much more sharper pictures I imagined and the keeper rate is not something one might assume after getting one of the best AF systems Canon has to offer.

Anyway - Im happy with my money spend! At the beginning I found myself looking for softness in my pictures but luckily my good friends told me not to pixel peep and now it's all good!

Dunno if I see or should see any difference between my shots with the 350d and 7d2. 7d2 just makes everything easier and gives me more of those keeper shots! Feel free to take a look at my photostream if you can pick the difference! https://www.flickr.com/photos/129552137@N04/

-Dan

The slight difference in the MP of the sensor will not make a image sharper, but you should be able to pixel peep and not see a blurry mess. I would expect to be able to crop a image and still have it sharp.

The extra $$ is for the dual processors, the fancy autofocus, and for the $$$$ spent on development. Once Canon has recovered their initial cost of tooling and development, the price can easily drop to $1300 and they will still be making a big profit.

I have not bought one, even though its a good camera because I know that I'd be disappointed with a crop sensor at the current price. I may go for one this fall, depending on what other new bodies we see.

 

[Rook]

I would send it in. I got mine back a couple of days ago. Seems a lot better behaved and seems to take and hold AFMA now. They replaced the mirror box and AF sensor. I think they are integrated.

Hopefully this weekend I can give it a shake down on some flying birds. Shots of the dog are not a real test.

However just based on shooting a spider lens call, it is very stable in its lock. Even with servo AF. No jumping around on a static target. I'm cautiously optimistic.

So don't fret too much. Seems maybe some of these issues might be bad mirror boxes.

Yeah, I'm going to send it in and let them check it out.

 

[nschearer]

Hi all of my L lensens needed some corrections, and they are on focus almost every time.. but my sigma 50mm 1.4 art is pretty much useless on the 7d mkii.. the AF is very unstabile... I already had it look at where they corrected it + 11 in the micro adjustment. Plus i also have it on +10 in camera... but the focus jumps around if i take the same picture.. anyone else have the 50 mm 1.4 art on the 7dmkii?

I just upgraded to the 7D MII from the 7D and have used it with my Sigma 18-35mm f1.8 Art and 50mm f1.4 Art, as well as the Canon 24mm f2.8 Pancake. I've personally found the AF to be performing better than on the original 7D. I've always had issues with AF on the Sigma 50 f1.4 Art, but it's such a beautiful lens that I still use it anyways...sometimes manual focus is just the way to go. I just ordered the Sigma USB hub which will hopefully improve things a bit. I did have very good success with my Sigma 18-35mm f1.8 Art however (photo below), much better than with my original 7D.

 

[Ruined]

I'll be honest I am highly interested in the 7DII but unless Canon officially acknowledges some of the AF issues that some users have been experiencing on certain bodies and/or releases a firmware update, the very earliest I will even consider buying one is Q4 2015 in case there is a "silent" hardware update/fix. Or at a minimum until the problematic cameras have been sold.

 

[East Wind Photography]

Got my first real test since getting my 7d2 back from canon. They replaced the mirror box and AF sensor. The major issues have been fixed. Afma seems to be holding now and it is performing much better in zone AF mode. No new firmware.

Previously my keeper rate was about 5%. I'd say it's now about 50%. Still not as good as the 5d3 or 1dx but better than the old 7d. RAW images are still soft out of the camera but sharpen up well with significant post processing.

I took about 50 shots of a static osprey in both servo and one shot AF. Images were 50/50 in/out of focus. That's still a bit disappointing. I was able to mask some of that by using F10 and greater. However that pretty much only works for you in full sun and when you are willing to sacrifice a little IQ with higher ISO. Still, with DXO Prime you can correct for some of that.

Due to the Lack of AF accuracy, AfMA is extremely difficult to nail down. You really need to have a large sample size to determine which setting produces the most in focus shots. You won't have an absolute value that gives you 90% success. If that is what you need then sell it and buy the 1dx and deal with the full frame sensor.

I'll keep fiddling with settings and report back anything that improves the success rate.

 

[Rook]

My 7D Mark II came back from Canon Repair Center yesterday. Going out this weekend to test it out.

Canon Repair Center "Your product has been examined and it was found that the adjustment of the AF assembly was incorrect causing the focus to operate improperly. electrical adjustments were carried out on the AF assembly. Product functions were confirmed.11846"

Hopefully this solves the issues with my camera. I'll post an update after the weekend once we test it out. Thanks again to all that responded. Maybe this tread will help those who are having the same issues.

Peace, Rook

 

[East Wind Photography]

I have been using mine extensively since the repair and I can now say the AF is about as good as the 5d3. The images are coming out quite better with a close to 80% Technical keeper rate. Still have low pass filter effects but they seem to sharpen very well in post without much increase in noise.

 

[Rahul]

I have been using mine extensively since the repair and I can now say the AF is about as good as the 5d3. The images are coming out quite better with a close to 80% Technical keeper rate. Still have low pass filter effects but they seem to sharpen very well in post without much increase in noise.

Glad to hear that finally, the 7D2 is working well for you.

 

[Northbird]

Maybe I got extremely lucky with the 7d mark ii I received because mine is track sharp! So sharp in fact I have to reduce the sharpening in post. I'm curious to what lens you're having a problem with sharpness with...?

+1 my experience as well.

 

[Big_Ant_TV_Media]

if i sent mine in too be checked how long would it take too hear from canon i live in nyc/nj area

 

[monkey44]

if i sent mine in too be checked how long would it take too hear from canon i live in nyc/nj area

I sent my 7D in once -- was less than ten days from my door to return to my door. I sent it to the NC store as it's the closest - I live in Florida. I heard two days after Canon received it ... and it took one day to fix. More than half the time was on-the-road in a UPS truck.

 

[Big_Ant_TV_Media]

huh i didnt understand what u wrote lol

if i sent mine in too be checked how long would it take too hear from canon i live in nyc/nj area

I sent my 7D in once -- was less than ten days from my door to return to my door. I sent it to the NC store as it's the closest - I live in Florida. I heard two days after Canon received it ... and it took one day to fix. More than half the time was on-the-road in a UPS truck.

 

[Rook]

if i sent mine in too be checked how long would it take too hear from canon i live in nyc/nj area

It took about 10 days door to door to get mine repaired. Very glad I sent it in. So far no issues with the AF. Much sharper images as a whole.

 

[Danzq]

I've sent mine in and it took Canon 2 weeks to even try to fix it. They had to order 7d2 specific calibration tools 'cause they had not delt with one before.

Got a call today (2 and a half weeks from sending it) that there's something really wrong with my camera and after 4 hours of calibration they just couldnt make any sense of it. AF was all over the place and all the parts seemed fine. They ordered some parts (new mirror box and main sensor) and have a go at it again next week.

Im just happy they see the problem I had and are determined to fix it.

-Dan

 

[DWM]

I also sent mine in and received it back in 9 days. Service details state "the adjustment of the AF assembly was incorrect causing the
auto focus to operate improperly. Electrical adjustments were carried out on the AF assembly". My first thought was they didn't do much
but after a weekend of shooting at an eagle nest I find it is way better. Went from less than 10% keeper rate before to above 90% now.
AI servo will stay locked on and doesn't hunt for focus like before. I suggest anybody with similar problems send it in and not wait for a
new firmware. My guess is it is a calibration that must be done by Canon and not a firmware fix.

 

[Danzq]

Quick update:

5 weeks have passed and my 7d2 is still being fixed at Canon. Called them today to ask what's up and got a fairly intresting update: They have changed the mirror box and AF sensor and are still not happy how it performs. They have also narrowed that it is not anything physical that's causing the AF issues. So right now they are waiting for a data sheet (?free translate?) from Canon factory. I asked if it was a new firmware and they said that it in fact is a new firmware and it should come in early next week.

Im a bit sceptic if it was just another way to buy some more time. We'll see once I get my precious back.

-Dan

 

[Big_Ant_TV_Media]

Quick update:

5 weeks have passed and my 7d2 is still being fixed at Canon. Called them today to ask what's up and got a fairly intresting update: They have changed the mirror box and AF sensor and are still not happy how it performs. They have also narrowed that it is not anything physical that's causing the AF issues. So right now they are waiting for a data sheet (?free translate from finnish?) from Canon factory. I asked if it was a new firmware and they said that it in fact is a new firmware and it should come in early next week.

Im a bit sceptic if it was just another way to buy some more time. We'll see once I get my precious back.

-Dan

COOL IF IT FIXES AF PROBLEMS AND INCREASES OUR KEEPER RATES AND FIXES NOISE PROBLEMS EVEN BETTER ALSO COULD U EMAIL THEM AND HAVE THEM ADD THE 24-105MM STM LENS PROFILE TOO THE CAMERA

 

[Lee Jay]

Well, I'm having a very strange AF problem with my 7DII + 18-135 STM. Check this out:

I did AFMA, and it was already pretty close (+3, -2).
With center point, it nails focus in both portrait and landscape.
With side points (left and right), in front focuses in landscape.
In normal portrait (right hand on top), it dramatically front focuses with an edge (top) point.
In reverse portrait (right hand on bottom) it dramatically back focuses with an edge (top) point.

Canon thinks is a decentering problem with the lens. They may be right since it nails focus with my 70-200II in all orientations with all points. But I don't understand how a decentering problem would manifest differently based on orientation and why it's sharp across the frame with the center point.

Is that strange or what?

 

[takesome1]

Is that strange or what?

It will be strange that after Canon identified it as a lens problem you still think it is a body problem.
Send the lens to Canon.

 

[AshtonNekolah]

I keep reading about lack of "sharp" in the 7D2, and I'm not experiencing that at all, not even a little. Shooting it with the 100-400 v1 earlier, now the 100-400 v2, and 70-200 f4 IS ... nothing but sharp images.

Of course, individual shots lack 'sharp', but when the set-up and timing and "me" are right, it blows images out of the water. I'm not so sure it's all about the camera design and technology as much as it may be about individual camera and assembly or manufacturing differences which occasionally happen in mass production -- and the complex nature of that camera itself and getting use to how it operates.

I have no doubt some of your got a camera that is 'out of spec', it happens. But I'm not ready to believe yet it's a design flaw. I can't imagine that I can be so lucky as to get the one of the few 7D2's that shoots sharp, and get the only lenses that fit well with it. Makes little sense to believe that.

I have no problems either, when people see the images right off the bad they say its sharper than my FF, I dont really care about all the sharpness talk thou but it's interesting to hear about this dealio.