7d mark ii or 6D

[bholliman]

This is a very simple choice, which do you need more of, better AF system and more FPS or more depth of field and better high iso preformance.

For a same framed image shot from the same place at the same aperture the 6D will have less dof than the 7D MkII.

Maybe he meant improved DOF flexibility, since full frame can achieve shallower depth of field if needed.

 

[ksgal]

the shutter speed goes way over 1/8000 smh do ya research

Ok, I've got the camera in my lap, and on M, it shows 1/8000 for the top shutter speed.

Specs I'm pulling say the same.
http://www.usa.canon.com/cusa/consumer/products/cameras/slr_cameras/eos_7d_mark_ii#Specifications

"Shutter Speeds
1/8000 to 30 sec., bulb (Total shutter speed range. Available range varies by shooting mode.)
X-sync at 1/250 sec."

Perhaps you are thinking of iso? which goes to 16,000? (and then H1 and H2)

I'd be happy to look at any research you have showing the shutter speed faster than 1/8000

 

[ksgal]

Fairtomorrow, what did you end up getting? It's been about a month!

I own both and shoot with both. Right now my 6D is in the repair, due to a wave catching me and camera on California coast. So I have been forced to use 7D II. 7D II is my backup camera for landscape and primary for action & pet photography. I'm a landscape photographer and do some pet photography. Both are a hobby, but I do get paid from time to time.

The 6D comes out with more clarity and is more rich in color, every time due to the full frame. The 7D II comes out clear and close to 6D, if you use prime lenses and focus is right on. For what you have said you need it for, I would definitely get the 7D II. I'm currently switching out going to another camera system for my landscape photography and video, but will keep my 7D II as my backup pet and action camera.

The action shot was painfully taken with the 6D, and the landscape shot was taken with 7D II. I posted both photos to show you can use each camera for the opposite of what it was made for, if you practice. Good luck with your system, what ever you decide to get. It's not so much the tools, but it's more on how much you push yourself with what you have in your hands. I'm sure you have already figured that out!

Beautiful shots on both, Oneand0.

 

[LovePhotography]

I have both the 7D ii and the 6D, and for everything other than high speed athletics, I prefer the 6D.
I prefer full frame, I'm abit underwhelmed by the 7Dii image (about what I get with the 6D with a 1.4 teleconvertor on each lens), and, since I didn't have a 5D3, I actually prefer the back layout on the 6D. As far as shutter speed, even though the 7Dii is blazingly fast, the 6D would still have been very good until just a few years ago. If you primarily do sports, and don't mind some image degradation, go with the 7Dii. Me? even though I shoot a lot of sports, I prefer the image quality of the 6D. The 6D still can do sports, just not as well.

 

[Hjalmarg1]

Going to upgrade my camera and having a hard choice... i currently have a 60D and use the 85 1.8, and 50mm 1.8, i shoot mostly events and eventually will get into video work. So im wondering which camera will be a better suite for me or any other recommendations. also im looking to pick up another lens for all around shooting, so any tips, hints or suggestions are welcome.

From your options: For events 6D and for video and fast action 7D2.
I had the same dilemma and went straight to 5D3
For lens, I'd suggest a 70-200mm f2.8L IS II and the 24-70mm f4L IS because both have IS and for video is very helpful.

 

[bholliman]

Going to upgrade my camera and having a hard choice... i currently have a 60D and use the 85 1.8, and 50mm 1.8, i shoot mostly events and eventually will get into video work. So im wondering which camera will be a better suite for me or any other recommendations. also im looking to pick up another lens for all around shooting, so any tips, hints or suggestions are welcome.

I have owned a 6D for 2.5 years and love it. Its great for events and pretty much anything other than fast action moving toward or way from you. I don't shoot much video, so can't really comment on that.

I've never used a 7D2, but sounds like a great camera for action/sports/wildlife.

 

[FTb-n]

Full frame is tough to beat -- cleaner high ISO image, sharper images, deeper color depth, and greater DOF range for the same lens. To me, events often mean low light and the 6D is the body of choice. For challenging light levels, this doesn't just mean cleaner images, but quicker focusing, particularly with 2.8 and faster lenses.

Much of this depends upon your interest in video. If video with AF is more important than events, then the scales tip toward the 7D2.

 

[Meerkat]

****I'm just a guy that likes taking pictures! Don't take anything I say too seriously. ****

I own a 6D. It is a great camera. I had an instant affection for it the first time I tried one in a camera store. I have rented the 7D Mark II a couple of times. I LOVE the camera. It is such a fun experience shooting with it.

If I was starting out, I would buy a 7D Mark II and I would be happy.

1. I don't really shoot very wide.
2. The 7D II does not look as good as the 6D but it is good.
3. The 7D II exposes better than the 6D. (Although I shoot in manual a lot).
4. Whenever I compare 7DII and 6D files, the 6D files look a lot better. But the prints I made with 7DII files look fantastic. So I don't worry about that anymore.
5. I feel totally connected to the 7DII when I shoot with it.
6. I like to shoot in bad weather, 6D has been fine, but I would be more comfortable with more weather sealing in 7DII.
7. The wifi in the 6D is pretty handy sometimes. But I could live without it.
8. I love the focus point spread across the viewfinder of the crop camera.

Here are two pictures I took using the 7D Mark II and the Canon 24-105 F4 something something, in Aperture Priority.

For a while I was contemplating selling the 6D and switching. Prices have come down so now I would like to buy the 7DII in addition to my 6D and have the best of two out of three worlds. (The new 5Ds files look great. I wish I had never seen them.)

JE3A1461 by LP Record, on Flickr

JE3A1497 by LP Record, on Flickr

 

[FTb-n]

It's easy to get wrapped up in the specs of the tech behind the photo, but it's a fair point that both bodies will produce great images. When comparing images of the same subject from the two bodies it may be easy to see the benefits of FF. But, without the side-by-side, I'm not convinced that I could reliably pick the body (unless the ISO is 6400 and up).

For me, high ISO performance is a must which makes the 6D much better choice. But, I have played with the 7D2 and will acknowledge that it owns the "fun factor" for shooting with it's much improved AF system and high FPS option.

 

[Big_Ant_TV_Media]

****I'm just a guy that likes taking pictures! Don't take anything I say too seriously. ****

I own a 6D. It is a great camera. I had an instant affection for it the first time I tried one in a camera store. I have rented the 7D Mark II a couple of times. I LOVE the camera. It is such a fun experience shooting with it.

If I was starting out, I would buy a 7D Mark II and I would be happy.

1. I don't really shoot very wide.
2. The 7D II does not look as good as the 6D but it is good.
3. The 7D II exposes better than the 6D. (Although I shoot in manual a lot).
4. Whenever I compare 7DII and 6D files, the 6D files look a lot better. But the prints I made with 7DII files look fantastic. So I don't worry about that anymore.
5. I feel totally connected to the 7DII when I shoot with it.
6. I like to shoot in bad weather, 6D has been fine, but I would be more comfortable with more weather sealing in 7DII.
7. The wifi in the 6D is pretty handy sometimes. But I could live without it.
8. I love the focus point spread across the viewfinder of the crop camera.

Here are two pictures I took using the 7D Mark II and the Canon 24-105 F4 something something, in Aperture Priority.

For a while I was contemplating selling the 6D and switching. Prices have come down so now I would like to buy the 7DII in addition to my 6D and have the best of two out of three worlds. (The new 5Ds files look great. I wish I had never seen them.)

JE3A1461 by LP Record, on Flickr

JE3A1497 by LP Record, on Flickr

those shots look boring

 

[Big_Ant_TV_Media]

I have both.

7D2 is a better overall camera. Much better interface, better AF, more useful features.

6D has better DOF control, more detail, and is a bit less noisy due to full frame. But boy, is the interface primitive in comparison to the 7D2. It feels like the stripped model in comparison. The AF works for slow/non-moving subjects, or if you use only the center point, but even then with fast lenses using it can be cumbersome when you only have one cross type sensor in the middle. You can focus in live view, but that might not always be possible. Also with fast lenses, the 6D only has a 1/4000 shutter which may require you to need an ND filter in daylight to prevent overexposure with shallower DOF.

If you are only doing landscape and studio work the 6D will do the job. For other things, the 7D2 is a better overall camera, though the 6D is workable - just gets tiresome being so limited after a while.

tell that too those 6D users the ancient slow AF isnt going get the job done always

If you have a choice to use 5Diii, would you choose 7dii in low light?

both can do the job with the right lens and if the venue lighting isnt batcave-ish lol

 

[Sporgon]

****I'm just a guy that likes taking pictures! Don't take anything I say too seriously. ****

I own a 6D. It is a great camera. I had an instant affection for it the first time I tried one in a camera store. I have rented the 7D Mark II a couple of times. I LOVE the camera. It is such a fun experience shooting with it.

If I was starting out, I would buy a 7D Mark II and I would be happy.

1. I don't really shoot very wide.
2. The 7D II does not look as good as the 6D but it is good.
3. The 7D II exposes better than the 6D. (Although I shoot in manual a lot).
4. Whenever I compare 7DII and 6D files, the 6D files look a lot better. But the prints I made with 7DII files look fantastic. So I don't worry about that anymore.
5. I feel totally connected to the 7DII when I shoot with it.
6. I like to shoot in bad weather, 6D has been fine, but I would be more comfortable with more weather sealing in 7DII.
7. The wifi in the 6D is pretty handy sometimes. But I could live without it.
8. I love the focus point spread across the viewfinder of the crop camera.

Here are two pictures I took using the 7D Mark II and the Canon 24-105 F4 something something, in Aperture Priority.

For a while I was contemplating selling the 6D and switching. Prices have come down so now I would like to buy the 7DII in addition to my 6D and have the best of two out of three worlds. (The new 5Ds files look great. I wish I had never seen them.)

JE3A1461 by LP Record, on Flickr

JE3A1497 by LP Record, on Flickr

those shots look boring

Actually I quite like the first one; shows off the 7DII at low ISO.

On screen at 100% a crop sensor is never going to look as good as a FF, but when it comes to the realities of printing it's a different story, as long as the crop has been handles properly. The reality is that unless you want that improved high ISO performance I guess most people would be better suited by the 7DII. The files at low ISO look superb, and then you have all the other 7D benefits on top.

 

[Meerkat]

Here are some 6D pictures to compare against the 7dII shots I posted.

Mr. Sporgon,
thanks for saying something positive. I do take boring pictures, but this is the photographer I am.


IMG_6130 by LP Record, on Flickr

IMG_3803 by LP Record, on Flickr

IMG_6525 by LP Record, on Flickr

IMG_2531 by LP Record, on Flickr

 

[nc0b]

I own two FF and two crop, and I will never buy another crop for what I shoot. The 6D is my go-to body from landscapes to BIF. My zooms works so much better on FF whether the 24-105mm, or either 70-200mm since I generally need the wide view more than the extra reach. Besides many discussions here have concluded the extra reach is more like 1.2X instead of 1.6X. For BIF the 6D does very well, even if people complain about its crippled focus capabilities. For me I only use the center spot, and for BIF the 400mm f/5.6. See today's hawk shots attached. I don't know if a 7D II would be better, but I am not going there. Certainly there are places where a 5D3 or a 1DX would be better, but I am very happy with the 6D. I shoot indoor dance events, and the 70-200mm f/2.8 ISII is the cats meow couple with the 6D's low light capability.