A New Pancake Lens? [CR1]

I'll tell you what.

An updated version of the 400 5.6 would have to be truly fantastic because my copy is awesome.

so far this round of rumors lately has for me been a roller coaster. I have wanted to see some rumors that fire me up, but nothing yet. Would love to see something firm about 1DX II, some revolutionary new sensors (still not sure what we will see yet given the back and forth speculation), and would love to see a 12- 24L. Just me.

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mrsfotografie said:
Omni Images said:
The thorn in my side is a new version of the 400 5.6L. The oldest lens in the line up now yet to be re-worked
IS plus a closer min focus.
Thank you please Canon

I might be interested in that lens, also. But it would have to compete with a new 100-400L.
 
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Canon Rumors said:
We’ve been told to get the maple syrup ready, as a new 24mm pancake lens will arrive with the EOS 7D Mark II. No aperture was given, though f/2.8 would be assumed.

Coming with the 7D Mark II somewhat worries me that this may be an EF-S pancake. I'd buy it in an instant if it was an EF pancake!

If it matches the 40mm for quality it would be fantastic! It might even boot the Sigma 35A off my 6D for primary use.
 
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Can somebody explain the appeal to me? Not trying to start a flame war, just trying to understand.

A 24mm pancake (which won't have IS) seems a bit redundant with the 24mm 2.8 IS, which by all accounts is a very good lens, has USM and which Canon cut the price to a much more reasonable level. The size seems kind of irrelevant once you put it on a 5D, 6D or other full frame body and for an SL1, you end up with a 37mm lens which is barely in the wide-angle realm.

Do people like these pancakes just because they are cute (no argument there)? What am I missing?
 
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zlatko said:
Yay, more pancakes! I'd love to have another. :D

+1.

FF users have had the 40 pancake and EOS-M users have had the 35mm FF equiv pancake for a while now. But crop SLR users were SOL for an autofocusing pancake in a standard / wide FL (64mm equiv with the 40 on a crop is way too long for a walkaround lens for me). So an EF 24mm pancake would never leave my 2nd body, which is an old T1i. That would be my 'pocket' small camera setup.

Now what would get me really excited would be to see a USM pancake. That would be gold. On my 5D3, too often I choose my ancient 50 F/1.4 over the 40mm pancake -- but for focusing speed reasons, not for max aperture reasons. Even the old hunty AF of that 50 prime is faster to target than the STM nonsense on the current pancake.

- A
 
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unfocused said:
Can somebody explain the appeal to me? Not trying to start a flame war, just trying to understand.

A 24mm pancake (which won't have IS) seems a bit redundant with the 24mm 2.8 IS, which by all accounts is a very good lens, has USM and which Canon cut the price to a much more reasonable level. The size seems kind of irrelevant once you put it on a 5D, 6D or other full frame body and for an SL1, you end up with a 37mm lens which is barely in the wide-angle realm.

Do people like these pancakes just because they are cute (no argument there)? What am I missing?

Size size size. It makes your rig so small you don't mind leaving the bag behind and just slinging your camera around your neck all day. Or it's such a small item that it's a no brainer to throw it in your bag as another FL option.

There's also a side argument (that some would refute) that the smaller your entire rig is, the more likely you'll bring it at all to take pictures.

But it will never 'compete' head to head at a feature level with larger lenses that offer IS, USM, weather-sealing, mechanical manual focusing, etc.

So I see pancakes as a nice option to reduce size when you don't need all those features -- leisure, walkaround, and street come to mind for lenses like these.

- A
 
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Lee Jay said:
mrsfotografie said:
Lee Jay said:
Omni Images said:
The beauty of the 400 prime over the zoom is size/weight and image quality, as well as it would be cheaper.

A new 100-400L would very likely improve over the old one in size, weight, and image quality, and improve for Canon in cost. ;D

As in 'improve' you mean 'more' I think? I also think a new 100-400 will be bigger and heavier especially if it's twist zoom.

All the newer teles have gotten lighter. I expect the same.

The 70-200 f/2.8 IS (II) increased both in size and weight...

http://www.the-digital-picture.com/Reviews/Lens-Specifications.aspx?Lens=103&LensComp=687&Units=M
 
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Groundhog said:
captainkanji said:
I wonder what the limits of a "pancake"'lens are. Could they make a 14mm or 85mm pancake?

Since Pentax can make a 70mm f2.4 Pancake and a really small 15mm f4.0 for APS-C, I think it is not completely impossible but the Limiteds are a bit pricy unlike the EF40.

Wait till they include diffractive optics into the mix :)
 
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this thread brought me to finding these two lenses

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especially the 28mm pancake looks so sweet and I bet it exactly fit my travel bag ;D
 
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