Am I the only one excited about the new 7D mk2?

[tphillips63]

For what it is I think it will be a great camera. Personally I am still hoping for a true 1D4 successor with a 1.6x crop -- that is integrated grip, weather sealing, build, 1 Series focus drive / response and shorter viewfinder blackout but with a crop sensor for wildlife work in nasty weather. Not sure I'd trust the build of the 7D II to stand up to really adverse conditions.

Did you ever see the torture test that Digital Rev did on the original 7D? It was very tough so with even better sealing on the MKII, it should stand up to just about anything.
That does not give you the 1 body though and speaking of, why not a one body crop? Too low demand I would guess but I don't know.
As far as my excitement, when I saw the button layout being like the 5d MKIII I was very interested.

 

[NancyP]

Me! I plan to buy one - will be contacting my brick-and-mortar store. I like the idea of differentiating bodies. I have a 6D for my landscape and astrophotography. I don't do video.

 

[NancyP]

I might add, I doubt that the file format is so different from other CR2s. Adobe Camera Raw should be out with something soon.

 

[2n10]

I've said it before (...) Sensors are only a shortcoming if you let them be.

Yes, indeed, however, it is still untrue to discount the huge importance of sensor tech for your end result and shooting abilities.

I am not sure what format Canon is using for their RAW files. I guess it's not CR2 because Adobe can't read them. Might be awhile before we learn about the low light performance.
Canon sez t is new sensor tech and something to do with the lenses o the pixels and the way they gather light. Tile will tell

The files can not be read because the codes behind them have not been released. When they are released the converters will get caught up and all will work again. DPP will be your first converter if you are an early adopter.

I am very excited for the AF upgrades, the speed upgrade and hope that the IQ improvements are at least 1 stop better than the original. I have pre ordered already. Hopefully Canon will have a lot in the pipeline for the pre order folks.

 

[FEBS]

I did order one.

I want a fast-backup camera for the 1Dx. I am very happy with the improvements Canon made compared to the 7D. Of course, I don't know what IQ and noise will bring, but I did use a 70D lately and the difference compared to the 7D for noise is quite impressive. I know that FF is even better, but for this price, the 7D2 will be a worthy successor of the 7D.

 

[Ebrahim Saadawi]

I am a videographer and excited for the 7D. After proper reviews I'll probably buy one.

It's the first real upgrade for the Canon video shooter below the 5D level. Finally a s35 canon without aliasing and moire for 1800$. Lovely.

I own a GH4, it only exceeds the 5D III is resolution, the 7D mk II is identical to the 5D iii video, which means much better colours than the GH4, much better lowlight performance, better dynamic range and larger sensor aesthetic. I only use the gh4 for wide detailed shots, for everything else I absolutely hate that broadcast-video like image. If it produced an ultimately better image than the 5D, I would have used it for everything, no reason no to, it just doesn't. It's wonderful for details though.

Resolution is not the only aspect of image quality. Easy to forget it seems.

 

[Helios68]

I really consider buying one. I expect some great improvements for my uses, mainly wildlife and some landscape. It could be the right camera to reach the performance of the 1D mkIV and a good upgrade of my actual body 700D. I am just waiting on the first reviews to confirm two important points:
-Outstanding fast AF
-Great ISO performance (I do not expect the same IQ as FF bodies...). Let's be surprised !!!

Hopefully I will not have to wait to long and that there are not too much firmware issues.

 

[J.R.]

I'm excited about the 7DII for the AF and the 10fps. if Canon has taken care of the banding, I'm getting one.

 

[gsealy]

I think the excitement will build when the camera ships and lots of YouTube reviews by ordinary people are posted. Let's see how well the camera performs by the masses.

For me, I see the 7DII positioned as a rugged camera that can take lots of and lots photos with very good quality. It is rated at 200K, so it is not likely to break down when you need it the most. I will likely get one to create time lapse video, which takes a toll on less robust cameras.

We will see.

 

[Keith_Reeder]

Yes, indeed, however, it is still untrue to discount the huge importance of sensor tech for your end result and shooting abilities.

And yet I can and do - and other people (lots of 'em) positively revel in the IQ of my pictures.

Despite all the noise about it, in reality the much-vaunted DR advantage is only of actual value in edge cases where a photographer has failed to expose his image properly and hasn't got the conversion/post processing skills to address the mistake.

In short, for the most part, low ISO DR is a get-out-of-jail-free card for photographers who make mistakes with their cameras and don't know what to do about them.

 

[Zv]

For what it is I think it will be a great camera. Personally I am still hoping for a true 1D4 successor with a 1.6x crop -- that is integrated grip, weather sealing, build, 1 Series focus drive / response and shorter viewfinder blackout but with a crop sensor for wildlife work in nasty weather. Not sure I'd trust the build of the 7D II to stand up to really adverse conditions.

Did you ever see the torture test that Digital Rev did on the original 7D? It was very tough so with even better sealing on the MKII, it should stand up to just about anything.
That does not give you the 1 body though and speaking of, why not a one body crop? Too low demand I would guess but I don't know.
As far as my excitement, when I saw the button layout being like the 5d MKIII I was very interested.

I really loved the bit where they froze the 7D in a block of ice, thawed it out and continued shooting (though it was probably busted but still impressive that it fired up at all!).

So yeah, the mark II should be as hard as nails. Unless you are going swimming in molten lava with one, I think it'll be just fine

 

[Keith_Reeder]

The files can not be read because the codes behind them have not been released.

Photo Ninja (unofficially but very efectively) reads 7D Mark II files and my early conversion tests suggest a stop+ high ISO improvement over the 7D - which is pretty damn' impressive, these days.

 

[weixing]

I'm also a little bummed the AF system is not comparable to the 61pt system in terms of point sensitivity. It seems most of the points are only f/5.6 sensitive, which means there won't be any AF performance bonus at f/4 or f/2.8 (outside of the central point(s), at least.) I think the AF system will perform well, but for those who have f/4 or f/2.8 prime teles, I honestly don't think it will perform as well as the 61pt system. The 1D X also provides increased AF drive power, so it will still focus faster (not even the 5D III focuses as fast as the 1D X.)

Hi,
Hmm... If I understand Canon AF technology correctly, all 65 points of 7D2 AF points are cross-type when using lens as narrow as f5.6 means that's it'll be cross type if you use a lens faster than or equal to f5.6. The center point will be dual cross points when use with lens faster or equal to f2.8.

If you compare the 61 points AF use by 1Dx and 5D3, only 41 points out of 61 points are cross-type when use with lens faster than or equal to f5.6. Of course, it had 5 dual cross points at the center when use with lens faster or equal to f2.8 which is better than 7D2.

Generally, all Canon lens (except some lens) without TC will enjoy the AF performance bonus of the cross-type for all the 65 AF points which is an improvement over the 61 points AF module, right??

Have a nice day.

 

[drift juice]

I'm gonna wait to see if the IQ matches/gets close to the 1DIV before I order one. If it doesn't ill just pick up a used IV. Would get a 1DX but the birds are small in Hawaii so the crop helps.

 

[Steve]

Photo Ninja (unofficially but very efectively) reads 7D Mark II files and my early conversion tests suggest a stop+ high ISO improvement over the 7D - which is pretty damn' impressive, these days.

Where are you finding the original 7D RAW images to compare? I have the 7DII RAWs but can't find the test shot RAWs of any other models. I'd really like to do an apples to apples with the 7DII vs 1DIV. Also, PhotoNinja seems pretty bad at first glance. Is it really just a bunch of automated check box clicking or am I missing something? Do they add necessary functions if you actually pirate buy it?

I'm gonna wait to see if the IQ matches/gets close to the 1DIV before I order one. If it doesn't ill just pick up a used IV.

I've said it many times but this is the only reason I'm not excited about the 7DII - it already exists, with a bigger sensor, and I've been using it for years. The 7DII is a really big improvement over the 7D and xxD line in a ton of good ways but it seems like, at best, a side-grade from the 5 year old 1DIV. Unless there are real sensor improvements, that is.

 

[SecundumArtemRx]

You have landscapers moaning about only 20Mpix and the usual DR nonsense.

Then you have videographers banging on about the lack of 4K.

Meanwhile sports / wildlife photographers are quietly pre-ordering. If I was a sports photographer I'd be pretty excited to have the 7D II either as a back up or main camera.

Bingo. From a marketing standpoint, you just accurately summed up the 7D Mk II reception and criticisms into three camps! Makes me wish commenter critique could stratified by subject matter (sports, cinematography, landscapes). Dare I say there would be a more academic-like and jovial discussion to be had? :

As a sports and wildlife hobbyist with a 60D - I'm very excited to get a 7D mark II. The enhanced autofocus, upgraded fps, and noise reduction at higher ISOs will boost my keeper % and maximize the action with me following through the viewfinder. If I was interested in more weddings or landscapes, I would have simply upgraded to a 5D mk III or 6D (for backpacking and traveling).

 

[Chuck Alaimo]

I feel as if (and this only my opinion which is worthless) the ones doing the crying are not the people who the 7DII is aimed for.

You have landscapers moaning about only 20Mpix and the usual DR nonsense.

Then you have videographers banging on about the lack of 4K.

Meanwhile sports / wildlife photographers are quietly pre-ordering. If I was a sports photographer I'd be pretty excited to have the 7D II either as a back up or main camera. I have a feeling once some solid reviews come around and people get to feel how easy the camera is to work with (loved my 7D ergonomics) things will calm down.

I thought the 7D was an amazing camera but on paper when it was compared to say a 60D there didn't seem to be all that much different. Once you actually use the 7D you start to realize that it's a beast and is built to last. The IQ was it's Achilles heel but hopefully that issue will be addressed to a satisfactory level and what we'll get is a highly refined machine!

+1... I really like the idea of the 7d2, but am not excited because I don't have much use for a sports style body.

 

[9VIII]

The more I read about it the more I want one, but right now I'm mostly just looking forward to seeing that extra switch around the joystick on the 5D4.
It's configurable.
I think Canon may finally be approaching Fuji levels of customisation on their controls. If they would let me set the touch wheel for separate commands as well then it would be an even fight.

 

[Chuck Alaimo]

Unless you're a sports/wildlife photographer, I don't think it's worth the difference in cost between the 70D.

Unless they're a sports/wildlife photographer (which is unquestionably its intended target audience) why would anyone even express an opinion about the 7D Mk II?

It's like a farmer whining about a new Ferrari because it won't pull his plough very well through muddy fields with those smooth little wheels...

The 7D Mk II is what it is - and it will be game-changingly good at that.

+100

 

[2n10]

The files can not be read because the codes behind them have not been released.

Photo Ninja (unofficially but very efectively) reads 7D Mark II files and my early conversion tests suggest a stop+ high ISO improvement over the 7D - which is pretty damn' impressive, these days.

I certainly hope that is true.