Announcing The Canon EOS-1D X Mark II

[adhocphotographer]

PDF flyer is up on canon INDIA
https://media.canon-asia.com/shared/live/products/EN/EOS1DXMarkII_flyer.pdf

 

[PureClassA]

Canon USA PRess Release
"The camera also boasts excellent dynamic range and reduced color noise compared to its predecessor throughout its standard ISO speed range of 100 - 51,200. "

https://www.usa.canon.com/internet/portal/us/home/about/newsroom/press-releases/press-release-details/2016/20160201-camera-eos1dx-markii/20160201-camera-eos1dx-markii/!ut/p/z1/lVLJbsIwFPwVOHC0_BxDlqMTKGlVhNqyxZfIxAaiEjtK0lL69XXEoSoVjfoOI43nbR4bc7zBXIv3fC-a3GhxtDzhbjp7iv34PoLHKZ0DsEngTZ4jRkOP4PXPBFiFQ2BuMI6ocwc2MP-7foU55pluyuaAk0xoo1OtTie1TTOjG6WbARxMoQYgtubNEivWlTHFAMpK1XWvUkclalVf8Z5UjciP9tgB4l6wBZSJQlUCKVMT-YEKUb3meYfcblhmucTJcBQI1ycukiAFGvqUooBIQDuSSamoQ_3Mu3bk95VbR-BGMLD1vCslsSO87xHzeOQAW8YLj41jClPAL__c-aHrmew_cKpZNNvbtqI5oFzvDN60tl3wtnkd8jrESTAPlWSYE1wWy8KnZ6Q_F7tiPT7vWb__BTiN3Yw!/dz/d5/L2dBISEvZ0FBIS9nQSEh/?urile=wcm%3Apath%3A%2FCanon_NewWeb_Content%2FHome%2FAbout%2FNewsroom%2FPress%2BReleases%2FPress%2BRelease%2BDetails%2F2016%2F20160201-Camera-EOS1DX-MarkII%2F20160201-Camera-EOS1DX-MarkII

 

[PhotographyFirst]

It's now official.

http://www.dpreview.com/news/2291500142/canon-announces-flagship-eos-1d-x-mark-ii-full-frame-digital-slr

 

[Erik S. Klein]

Yep. Within the last 10-15 minutes it's official on Canon's site, available on various retail sites for pre-order, etc.

My pre-order is in... 8)

 

[PureClassA]

https://www.usa.canon.com/internet/portal/us/home/products/details/cameras/dslr/eos-1d-x-mark-ii

BOOM

 

[PureClassA]

https://downloads.canon.com/nw/camera/products/eos/1d-x-mark-ii/docs/eos-1dx-mark-ii-brochure.pdf

and boom

 

[dolina]

https://youtu.be/V3U4XBqfCPk

 

[PureClassA]

Tell ya what... This thing will pair beautifully with an Atomos. Key thing with external recording is having the camera itself capable of the frame rate you want/need. Canon's codec looks pretty good considering this is NOT a video camera. But for video/cinema guys an Atomos or 7Q can get you ProRes and a nice SSD to record to instead of a CFast Card.

I'm really excited by this thing. I can't wait to see some demo stuff.

 

[Adelino]

So touch screen works ONLY with video focusing...? That answers some complaints about the touch screen but will create new complaints

 

[Sven_22]

Does anyone know why these lens have been astrixed when they are talking about autofocusing @ f/8? If I am reading that part of the press release correctly
* Except when using the Canon EF 50mm f/2.5 Macro, EF 100mm f/2.8 Macro, EF 100mm f/2.8 Macro USM, EF 100mm f/2.8L Macro IS USM and EF 28-80mm f/2.8-4L USM lenses

 

[tpatana]

Those can't be RAW right? Are you sure you did not make a mistake and put it into Jpeg or something? 3000 shots with just 25% battery burn does not make sense.

Not questioning your honesty, but if those sorts of numbers were possible on RAW then Canon would say something. I can understand them being conservative, but not to that extent.

All RAW mode. It may have been more battery life than that. I really can't recall. But what I can tell you for certain is this:

The first year I rented one I had LR send me a spare battery to keep handy. Never had to switch out to it once. I may have recharged the first batter once after the 3rd recital (of four that weekend) and by then I would have had around 6000 frames shot in RAW. Subsequent years I have never gotten a spare battery and just out of habit recharge it Saturday night after the third recital when it's power is very low. This past year I think I got around 6000-7000+ RAW shots on one charge with the 200-400 F4L monster on it. I know I didn't recharge it more than one time and I had 14k+ frames logged.

Wow. Good for you.

I get nowhere near that. My figures are much closer to what Canon states they should be.

I definitely need my second battery and have at times contemplated a third - though I never did get one.

My typical sport shoot day recently is 70-200 Mk2 on the body all day, ~8h of shooting and 3500-4000 pics. Battery is usually quite low at the end, but I don't think I ever needed to replace.

Earlier before 1DX I had the same lens on 5D3 w/ grip, 2 batteries in, and usually was hitting 3000+ on day and quite plenty juice left on the batteries in the evening.

For one, I don't browse pictures too much during the day, and basically never go review/delete on camera.

 

[lux]

So if 41 focus points are active at f8..,wouldn't you think that a few might function at f11? That is I wonder if a 400 5.6 and a 2x non-reporting extender might work? Or a 150-600 with 2x no reporting extender.

 

[Mark D5 TEAM II]

With the exception of all 61 autofocus sensors which work up to f/8 and 4K video recording up to 60 fps with AF and 9MP still frame grab, Canon EOS 1D X Mark II is a disapointment, both in comparison to the Nikon D5 and as a standalone professional DSLR camera. No auto AF lens micro adjustment as in Nikon D5 (very important especially with the advent of Full Frame Mirrorless cameras such as the Sony a7S Mk II & Sony a7R MkII), 20 linear AF sensors out of 61 in total meaning that the Canon EOS 7D Mark II with its all selectable 65 cross type AF sensors remains the best as far as the total number of selectable cross type AF sensors is concerned while Nikon D5 with its 99 cross type AF sensors is much better at tracking fast erratically moving subjects, at least in theory since neither of these two AF systems have been tested in practise. Thus, since both the Nikon D5 and the Canon EOS 1D X Mark II are specifically targeted towards sports photographers, I believe that the Nikon D5 has a superior AF system for tracking moving subjects as far as still photography is concerned, unless the use of teleconverters brings the maximum lens aperture up to f/8 and/or when even 12 fps aren't enough in order to capture the perfect moment and one is willing to drop resolution to 9MP in order to have 60 fps while has the luxury of spending plenty of time post capture in front of a computer in order to select the perfect moment, in which case the Canon EOS 1D X Mark II with the addition of a much better 4K video recording implementation (duration, AF) becomes the better buy. All in all though, I believe that Canon was way too conservative in its last EOS 1 series body, probably trying to avoid AF issues such as in the recent past by copying Nikon in this instance by keeping essentially the same AF module for another generation, as Nikon did for the last 8 years (D3, D3S, D4, D4S). Canon was just unfortunate that at the time they chose to do so, Nikon brought to the market a radical new AF system which on paper at least looks very impressive while for the last 8 years during which Nikon kept essentially the same AF system, Canon didn't have an equivalent breakthrough. Finally, I would like to say, that both cameras embody the best technology their manufacturers have commercially available at the moment, with each camera strengthening even further the strong points of its manufacturer, either that is the AF algorithm for calculating the future position of a moving subject, low light AF performance, high ISO image quality and battery life in the case of Nikon or AF responsiveness both in lens and in camera body and 4K video implementation in the case of Canon.

Wow, I'm not sure if this newly-created account is trolling or not, but apparently in Nikonland 55 > 61 and 153 > 16,000,000++. : ;D

 

[Mark D5 TEAM II]

...
Wow, I'm not sure if this newly-created account is trolling or not, but apparently in Nikonland 55 > 61 and 153 > 16,000,000++. : ;D

Except that the DPAF isn't available except when you're using live view - that is no DPAF when you're using the view finder.

What?!?! you say.

Look on here https://downloads.canon.com/nw/camera/products/eos/1d-x-mark-ii/specifications/canon-eos-1dx-mkii-specification-chart.pdf

DPAF is listed under "Live View Functions" and "Video Shooting."

How many of you use "Live View" (or video) when shooting sports or birds?

Of course DPAF is not available when using the VF Capt. Obvious, the sensor is not exposed, the mirror is down. Don't you understand how it works? My point is those DPAF AF points are in effect "selectable" in LV & Video Mode, unlike Nikon's claim of "153 awesome AF points", only 55 of which are actually selectable. See the 5D/5D2 and wonder why Canon never claimed that those have "15 AF points".

 

[Luds34]

Having a touchscreen on all the time with an option to switch it off is non-starter. You would have to remember to disable it prior to shooting or your shots will get messed up.

Not true at all.

20151124_172417 by Jonathan Brady, on Flickr

Camera on the left is a 70D (has a touchscreen). This is the screen most of us see when shooting, no? If you press anywhere on that screen, NOTHING HAPPENS UNTIL you press the bottom left hand corner "Q" button on the screen. Notice how it looks different than the "Q" button on the screen on the 6D (camera on the right which doesn't have a touchscreen)? It's highlighted on the 70D to indicate that THIS is where you press to activate the touchscreen. Once you press that "Q", THEN you can press any of the other parameters on the screen to change them. Press the back button (replaces the "Q") to turn it off.

So, it's fast. You: press Q button, press parameter you want to change, change it, change anything else, press back button. Done. Just like "pinch to zoom" and "pan" within a zoomed picture when reviewing pics, it CAN be faster depending on your setup and the number of changes.

Personally, I don't use the screen to change parameters on my 70D. But I do use it to move through menus as well as pan through zoomed images. And obviously, also for touch-to-focus in video.

Thanks for this. I don't have the 70D so pardon my ignorance.

Doesn't using the Q button and then using fingers for the touchscreen experience slow you down? My typical use with the DSLRs is to grab the body with both hands, use the left thumb for menu/info buttons and the right thumb for operating the wheel and other buttons. I can't imagine what using my fingers for operating the touchscreen would feel like. Can you share your experience on this?

Hi,
I also use my DSLRs this way... all the menu setting I might use is in "My Menu", so touchscreen is not so useful when shooting stills via OVF, but touchscreen is very useful for live view shooting and video shooting.

Anyway, I think most people who had experience in using a DSLR will turn off the screen to save battery power when shooting stills via OVF, so I don't think touchscreen will cause any problem especially when you need to press the 'Q' button first to activate the touchscreen in Canon DSLR.

Have a nice day.

Yeah, I call that the "Rebel Screen". Once I got camera bodies that had the top LCD, I really saw no reason for the back screen to be on showing that redundant info and mine are off. I agree, I think many people shooting stills leave that screen off.

As for the touchscreen, I agree, it isn't a problem. One isn't accidentally changing settings, etc. It is plenty useful for reviewing photos, zooming in/out, etc. I'm sure whatever Canon has done with the new 1DX2 they will have it plenty configurable in the menu, probably allowing users to completely disable touch.

 

[raptor3x]

Promising sign for the base ISO performance for new bodies going forward.

Many sports take place in less than perfect lighting, and Canon’s new sensor has an important innovation. The A/D converter circuitry, which translates captured light values into digital data, has now been integrated with the sensor itself.

This shortens the signal path and reduces image noise – not just at higher ISOs but also further down the ISO range.

Hopefully this will close the DR gap and put an end to the never ending DR conversations.

 

[Zv]

There's some videos up on TDP. I found out a lot of good stuff from the Canon stills ones like the touchscreen can be disabled! That's a handy feature that will make some people happy!

The anti-flicker feature is also different than previous versions apparently.

And the LiveView screen remains active during the 16fps shooting.

See more at TDP

http://www.the-digital-picture.com/News/

 

[Mark D5 TEAM II]

I'd love to get more info on the 1DX Mark II's new "invisible subject area AF detection" that is apparently larger than the indicated AF area in the VF:

Interesting comment about this from the DPR Nikon rah-rah boys:

"There's also no reason to assume the D5 doesn't also have this invisible area detection. Our tests indicate the metering sensor extends well beyond the AF frame on Nikons, and since we know Nikons especially use their metering sensors very, very effectively for subject tracking, there's every reason to assume Nikon also has this so-called 'invisible' detection."

Looks like the 1D2 AF is even better than the specs sheets suggest.

 

[Loswr]

I'd love to get more info on the 1DX Mark II's new "invisible subject area AF detection" that is apparently larger than the indicated AF area in the VF:

Interesting comment about this from the DPR Nikon rah-rah boys:

"There's also no reason to assume the D5 doesn't also have this invisible area detection. Our tests indicate the metering sensor extends well beyond the AF frame on Nikons, and since we know Nikons especially use their metering sensors very, very effectively for subject tracking, there's every reason to assume Nikon also has this so-called 'invisible' detection. In fact, undoubtedly Nikon's very, very effective tracking system would certainly have locked and maintained focus on the subject's eyes, whereas as you can see the poor, outmoded Canon tracking joke has mushed up the focus by tracking the subject's face, neck, jersey, and even part of the background."

Looks like the 1D2 AF is even better than the specs sheets suggest.

Fixed that for ya. Next time, please don't selectively quote DPR's totally unbiased statements!!

 

[tpatana]

I'm still puzzled who uses touch screen to change settings. Isn't it 10x faster to use the dials?