Another Mention of a New EF 70-200mm Lens [CR2]

[arthurbikemad]

LCD screen,

Totally missing LCD screens on my lenses...

Does it have to be a swivel screen? ;D

No, but it should support wi-fi so users could see the data on their smartphones.

And GPS in case camera does not have one ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

Am I missing something, is the LCD display on lenses not something that's happening? i.e EF 70-300??? It can have a friken milkshake machine on it for all I care..

It could but it would increase size and weight. Plus you would be inclined to have a milkshake instead of taking a nice photo ;D ;D ;D

Ha 8) well in true CR style do we think it would weigh more, is the rather dated analogue readout not well, err, dated..

 

[unfocused]

LCD screen,

Totally missing LCD screens on my lenses...

Does it have to be a swivel screen? ;D

No, but it should support wi-fi so users could see the data on their smartphones.

And GPS in case camera does not have one ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

Am I missing something, is the LCD display on lenses not something that's happening? i.e EF 70-300??? It can have a friken milkshake machine on it for all I care..

The only thing you are missing is that there are a great many people on this forum who are quick to type snarky comments before they engage their brains. You are absolutely correct that the new 70-300 does have an LCD display.

Keep in mind, though, that some of these forum participants are also returning perfectly good 5D IVs because of an imaginary sensor "defect."

 

[slclick]

What is the weight loss in grams with Engineering plastic over magnesium?

 

[JMZawodny]

Looking at the MTF charts for the current vII lens, there is a lot of margin in performance to be had. I hope the vIII lens includes MTF charts when used with the 1.4x and 2x telextenders ... then "they can take my money" (ahsanford™). ;D

 

[tron]

LCD screen,

Totally missing LCD screens on my lenses...

Does it have to be a swivel screen? ;D

No, but it should support wi-fi so users could see the data on their smartphones.

And GPS in case camera does not have one ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

Am I missing something, is the LCD display on lenses not something that's happening? i.e EF 70-300??? It can have a friken milkshake machine on it for all I care..

The only thing you are missing is that there are a great many people on this forum who are quick to type snarky comments before they engage their brains. You are absolutely correct that the new 70-300 does have an LCD display.

Keep in mind, though, that some of these forum participants are also returning perfectly good 5D IVs because of an imaginary sensor "defect."

It is my understanding - although English is not my native language - that this specific thread entry is more or less sarcastic. Yes the new non-L zoom has an LCD. So what ? everyone seemed to make fun of this as if this is a big "upgrade" for the new ... 70-200

 

[arthurbikemad]

Hi Tron, no sarcasm on my part, it would not surprise me is not in the end all lenses have the LCD, me I am not a fan at all, it strikes me as hard to read, slow to update and so on, however I think Canon sees the LCD as a step forward in tech and will apply it to new lenses, I may well be wrong but ai thought I'd add my views into the chat. Your English is great Tron!

 

[tron]

Hi Tron, no sarcasm on my part, it would not surprise me is not in the end all lenses have the LCD, me I am not a fan at all, it strikes me as hard to read, slow to update and so on, however I think Canon sees the LCD as a step forward in tech and will apply it to new lenses, I may well be wrong but ai thought I'd add my views into the chat. Your English is great Tron!

I am not a fan of LCD either hence the addition of a previous hilarious entry! Target was Canon NOT you! My opinion is that if a company puts resources to improve a lens they should increase IQ (sharpness, CA, edges, vignetting, etc) instead of adding gimmicks (and adding at the same time another point of failure).

 

[AJ]

Maybe the lens will have a "print" button

 

[Maiaibing]

Maybe the lens will have a "print" button

Someone should make stats on how often that button has ever been pressed...

 

[Mr. Shakes]

I'm for all lens updates because they help drive good used lens prices to where I can afford them!

 

[Jopa]

I'm for all lens updates because they help drive good used lens prices to where I can afford them!

Yes, it's also a good reason for the manufacturers to come up with prices around $3k for a slightly updated lens

 

[GMCPhotographics]

Maybe the lens will have a "print" button

Someone should make stats on how often that button has ever been pressed...

It'll be right next to the new "make newbie photos look professional" button.

 

[midluk]

Roger tested the new Nikon 70-200mm and it seems there definitely is room for improvement in the Canon MkII.

 

[Maiaibing]

Roger tested the new Nikon 70-200mm and it seems there definitely is room for improvement in the Canon MkII.

Nikon also "improved" the price .

 

[LordofTackle]

Roger tested the new Nikon 70-200mm and it seems there definitely is room for improvement in the Canon MkII.

Obviously, from the bench testing, there is some room for optical improvement of the canon 70-200 (mostly at 135mm). But not THAT much. And I doubt many people could actually see the difference in pictures between the Canon and the new Nikon, including me.

My guess is that they will take the same route as for the 24-105 (So a lot of people might take it as a lackluster upgrade):

- improve optics slightly ( in this case the mark II is already pretty excellent, so not much room for improvement)
- improve AF
- improve IS (probably the area with most room for improvement)
- maybe some new gimmicks (i.e. blue goo etc)

 

[Jopa]

Interesting test. So now in the 70-200 world we have Nikon > Canon > Sony (GM). No one still can't beat the Canon for the price though. I guess the situation will change with the 70-200 III, bet $1 it will be $3k.

 

[chik0240]

Interesting test. So now in the 70-200 world we have Nikon > Canon > Sony (GM). No one still can't beat the Canon for the price though. I guess the situation will change with the 70-200 III, bet $1 it will be $3k.

I am actually tempted to upgrade my 10 years old 70-200 F4L IS to a 2.8 version if it releases a III, but then if it's 3k then possibily I will keep the F4 IS before it breaks.

To be honest the recent releases of the canon L are amazing, I have been upgraded to the 24-70 II from my 24-105 and see a very great improvement of IQ, but if it's a 3K call for this one then I bet it's not worth the extra money which cost a kidney and liver to afford, after all the improvements for some already great old models are subtle when viewing the full picture rather than pixel peeping, the pixel peep on corners which is very likely blurred away in such focal length anyway

 

[RGF]

Interesting test. So now in the 70-200 world we have Nikon > Canon > Sony (GM). No one still can't beat the Canon for the price though. I guess the situation will change with the 70-200 III, bet $1 it will be $3k.

I am actually tempted to upgrade my 10 years old 70-200 F4L IS to a 2.8 version if it releases a III, but then if it's 3k then possibily I will keep the F4 IS before it breaks.

To be honest the recent releases of the canon L are amazing, I have been upgraded to the 24-70 II from my 24-105 and see a very great improvement of IQ, but if it's a 3K call for this one then I bet it's not worth the extra money which cost a kidney and liver to afford, after all the improvements for some already great old models are subtle when viewing the full picture rather than pixel peeping, the pixel peep on corners which is very likely blurred away in such focal length anyway

The value of IQ is very subjective. Some will pay a king's ransom for the best while others will settle lenses that are merely very good. I am not sure how much has to do with actually IQ we observe on a print but rather the emotional benefit of having the best possible IQ ;D

 

[Antono Refa]

I once asked a retired pro photographer about this or that new lens.

He told me software engineers buy the latest & greatest lenses, photographers who earn a living from their equipment buy the cheapest equipment that would do, and told me to look what those pros actually use.

Which I did. Sure enough, some use the latest & greatest. Often enough, they don't. I've seen a wedding photographer use an EF 28–80mm f/2.8–4L, which is so old its discontinued. Its small, fast, and sharp enough to print A4 - as big as newly weds ask for.


My spider senses alert me of someone going to say "but one day they'll want to see it on 8K displays!".

I'm going through my grandparents' photo albums. I've often said to my self "wow, that photo of my dad's uncle is amazing!" or "My dad's cousin was smashing when she was 23yo!", but never "oh, if only they printed this photo at A3 size..."

 

[scyrene]

My spider senses alert me of someone going to say "but one day they'll want to see it on 8K displays!".

I'm going through my grandparents' photo albums. I've often said to my self "wow, that photo of my dad's uncle is amazing!" or "My dad's cousin was smashing when she was 23yo!", but never "oh, if only they printed this photo at A3 size..."

THIS.