Any news on the SL1 sensor?
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I have been wondering the same myself.
Is it a better sensor for high ISO than the old 18MP sensor from the 7D and so many others? Or is it a genuine improvement in it?
Is it a better sensor for high ISO than the old 18MP sensor from the 7D and so many others? Or is it a genuine improvement in it?
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Pitbullo said:
That was a rumor at one time, a later one says it will have the 7D sensor. No one knows, of course.
Do not expect the SL1 sensor to be a breakthrough in high ISO. It is a hybrid sensor that improves live autofocus a little, and its likely that there is a miniscule improvement if any in high ISO performance.
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The Imaging Resource has posted their SL1 studio samples.
I compared them to the 60D studio samples and noise is the same at equal ISOs.
The catch is that the exposure times of the SL1 are longer.
So, it looks like the SL1 sensor is actually noisier than the 60D sensor.
I compared them to the 60D studio samples and noise is the same at equal ISOs.
The catch is that the exposure times of the SL1 are longer.
So, it looks like the SL1 sensor is actually noisier than the 60D sensor.
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x-vision said:
I looked at the same pictures and the 60D looks noisier to me at 12800 but at 6400 they looked the same. But it looks like nothing to upgrade my t2i too. But I am hoping th 70D doesn't have that sensor but the 7DII if that ever comes out.
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So, it seems then that the only improvement, if any, over the good old 18mp sensor is down to processing power.
The SL1 is not for me anyway, but I did hope it would give us a taste of the new generation of Canon sensors.
Well well, my 550D still soldiers on bravely
The SL1 is not for me anyway, but I did hope it would give us a taste of the new generation of Canon sensors.
Well well, my 550D still soldiers on bravely
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Yes, I used the Comparometer (TM) to compare the 100D's high-ISO noise at 6400 to that of the 7D.
The difference was pretty much imperceptible. Maybe slightly better from the 100D in some areas of the picture, but honestly - was it any better to any useful extent? No.
So the 100D does seem to be just another outing for the 4-year-old sensor in the 7D, at least in terms of high ISO performance.
I'll give it a miss then. I might have been interested in it as a more portable body to take out when I didn't feel like taking the 5D3.
The difference was pretty much imperceptible. Maybe slightly better from the 100D in some areas of the picture, but honestly - was it any better to any useful extent? No.
So the 100D does seem to be just another outing for the 4-year-old sensor in the 7D, at least in terms of high ISO performance.
I'll give it a miss then. I might have been interested in it as a more portable body to take out when I didn't feel like taking the 5D3.
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Its not possible to compare raw images for SL1 and 60D on the digital picture web site, just jpeg images, which means very little, since they were processed in camera with different firmware.
However, DXO has tested the raw output of the T5i which has the same sensor as the SL1, and found no change in raw output compared to 5 year old sensors from Canon. That's a more telling statistic than comparing jpg's on the digital picture.
However, DXO has tested the raw output of the T5i which has the same sensor as the SL1, and found no change in raw output compared to 5 year old sensors from Canon. That's a more telling statistic than comparing jpg's on the digital picture.
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Mt Spokane Photography said:
Are you sure they share the same sensor? From what I read at launch, the T5i has the same sensor as the T4i, and the SL1 was something new. Maybe I had it wrong though.
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I don't mean to rain on anybody's parade, but I think the point of the SL1 is quantity not quality. The new new sensor will be on the fabled 7Dll, you know, around the same time as the new 100-400 and the 200-400 are released . Of course there is a slight possibility that the 70D will introduce the new tech, but I doubt it.
. Of course there is a slight possibility that the 70D will introduce the new tech, but I doubt it.
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I don't think anyone was seriously expecting the 7D2's sensor to be in the 100D.
I, at least, just wanted to know whether it was (as far as high ISO performance is concerned) just basically the same as the 4-year-old 7D sensor, or whether the 100D's sensor showed a noticeable improvement.
I, at least, just wanted to know whether it was (as far as high ISO performance is concerned) just basically the same as the 4-year-old 7D sensor, or whether the 100D's sensor showed a noticeable improvement.
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If the SL1 has a new sensor, it doesn't look very good. Just ran across this review and they put it up against the Canon 7D and D7100 in low light for photos and videos.
Canon Rebel SL1 (100D) Hands On Review
You can download the RAW files from the SL1 here: http://learningcameras.com/reviews/4-dslrs/150-canon-sl1-review
They do not look that good though.
Canon Rebel SL1 (100D) Hands On Review
You can download the RAW files from the SL1 here: http://learningcameras.com/reviews/4-dslrs/150-canon-sl1-review
They do not look that good though.
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I noticed that our local Costco store had a big pallet full of SL1's with a 2 lens kit today. It was not as small as I had expected, it feels pretty good even in my large hand.
DPR now has their review up, and at high ISO's, it doesn't match the 700D. I found that disappointing. That does not mean its a camera to avoid, but I had hoped for a better sensor, not a step down, even if its a small step.
DPR now has their review up, and at high ISO's, it doesn't match the 700D. I found that disappointing. That does not mean its a camera to avoid, but I had hoped for a better sensor, not a step down, even if its a small step.
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They had this at Best Buy and I got to play with it a little. It is so tiny in my big hands. The 6D with a battery grip is perfect for me. I think the size is really the selling point for this camera. The daylight images look pretty good though. That 18mp sensor seems to be getting a little old. I'll probably never go back to an APS-C so I guess it really doesn't matter.
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It is sad, that a big company like Canon sells this 18MP sensor for four years in many different cameras.
Like using the same film in every camera in the analog days.
I loved the Ilford FP4, but sometimes I used a PAN F or a Fuji Neopan 1600.
Like using the same film in every camera in the analog days.
I loved the Ilford FP4, but sometimes I used a PAN F or a Fuji Neopan 1600.
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