Are extenders useless?

LSeries said:
I've been playing with EF EX 1.4x II and EF EX 2x III together with EF 300 f/4L IS USM and Canon 7D mk2. I've constantly managed to get better image quality (sharper + deeper colors) by just heavily cropping the 300 mm image without extenders. Does anyone agree? Because of this I'm now a bit puzzled as to how to get closer (to birds) while maintaining the image quality of my 300 mm lens without those huge and super expensive 500 mm or 600 mm Canon lenses. What would you suggest? The 100-400 mm ? I like to go out by bike with the camera in my back bag so this is one of the reasons I love the 300 mm.
While I managed to get sharp pictures with the 70-200/2.8 II + 1.4x&2x latest converters, however paired together with EF 300 f/4L IS USM never got sharp pictures. I finally sold them all and I am saving for a good (and expensive) telephoto, probably the new 100-400/II.
 
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If you are not in reach-limited situations, then there is no advantage image-wise in using an extender or using a crop with smaller pixels. FF without an extender will always give better results. But, if you are in a reach-limited situation, then it may be better to use an extender and a crop camera.

The usefulness of extenders depends on the lens and body. To assess the merits for an up and coming bird-watching trip, I spent yesterday recalibrating with Focal my 5DIII and 7DII with my 100-400mm II and 300mm f/2.8 II with 1.4 and 2xTCs, I spent some time staring at iso-12233 charts snapped with the recalibrated lenses.

Conclusions:

1. 100-400mm II on the 7DII does out resolve the 100-400mm II on the 5DIII, with some loss of contrast.
2. 100-400mm II on the 7DII is very similar to the 100-400mm II + 1.4xTC III on the 5DIII in both contrast and resolution.
3. 100-400mm II + 1.4x TC on the 7DII does out resolve the 100-400mm II 1.4x TC on the 5DIII, with loss of contrast.

The situation is different for the 300mm f/2.8 II. On the 5DIII, the addition of 1.4 and 2xTC IIIs leads to a progressive increase in resolution, but the 7DII doesn’t work well with the 2xTC (as I have found in the past from experience), and is best at 420mm with the 1.4xTC.

So, I’ll be packing both bodies, the 1.4x TC and the 100-400mm II to take with me; the 7DII for distant bird watching and the 5DIII for closer work in darker situations. For mild hiking at home, the 5DIII with 300mm f/2.8 plus 2xTC is still my preferred combination, but I am increasingly grabbing the 7DII + 100-400mm II.

Edit, here is the summary of shots of the centre of the chart that led to the conclusions - self-explanatory.
 

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I'd read somewhere (not on CR) that you can stack both mk3 TCs but only if you add the 1.4x behind the 2x as the 2x has a recessed rear element allowing the insertion of the protruding front element of the 1.4x.

Can anyone confirm this?

Guy.
 
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GuyF said:
I'd read somewhere (not on CR) that you can stack both mk3 TCs but only if you add the 1.4x behind the 2x as the 2x has a recessed rear element allowing the insertion of the protruding front element of the 1.4x.

Can anyone confirm this?

Guy.

That is incorrect. You need to have an extension ring between the two.
 
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