banning people for nothing at canon rumors

[Loswr]

civilised

Us North Americans find your uncivilized spelling of that word to be bollocks.

Keep calm and carry on...

 

[fugu82]

I deeply appreciate the job the moderators do here. And it's good to know that a mechanism is in place to rectify occasional errors in judgement. The alternative is to abandon the forum to the trolls, professional haters, stealth marketers, etc. that are always waiting right outside the gate.

 

[MARKOE PHOTOE]

If we could just start by fixing the speling airs errors

 

[Don Haines]

Very misleading title for this thread..... If the moderator(s) were banning people for doing nothing, then all those people who just read, but never post, would be banned

You get banned for doing something... not nothing.

 

[hamada]

Thank-you for taking the time to discuss what is perceived to be an issue.

I will say that time-to-time I will get clarification from a moderator if a user complains directly to me about a ban. Most of the time the moderator is granted autonomy in making the decision to ban or suspend a user. However, there have been a few instances where a ban has been overturned for whatever reason. Humans make mistakes and moderating a forum is pretty much a thankless job.

As for soft deleting posts, I will look into that. The idea is a good one.

Karma was abused in so many ways, and was an enormous headache for myself and moderators. It is never coming back.

Again, thanks for the concern and if anyone has any issues you think I should know about, please email me at canonrumorsguy [a t] gmail.com

Do not use the messaging system here to get in contact with me.


Cheers
CR

and you are discussing the ban of canon-f1 with the MOD who is responsible for it?

he can not read private messages because he can not login.

he assured me has done nothing offensive.
beside two occasions he had with mt spokane.
both postings are still in his user stats and in my opinon don´t deserve a ban.

one post about a lightroom issue and one post about battery grips.
read for yourself.

Quote from: Mt Spokane Photography on June 07, 2013, 09:49:14 AM

The third party grips have a reputation of lasting from 3-6 months, depending on use. Just buy 10 of them and you'll be set for 3 years.

sources for such a bold claim?

i would love you write not such biased nonsense all the time about third party gear, you propably have never used yourself or any experience with.

i bought my 5D MK2 over 4 years ago and the BG grip i bought for it is still absolutely fine.
the phottix BG for my 550D is from 2010 and the 550D is my cheap "throw around" camera.
the BG is also still absolutely fine.

and im not a weekend shooter....

well spokane did not notice the error... so all is fine and adobe and all who have an issue are wrong.

Thanks to all for your efforts in tracking down and reporting this issue. The bug was introduced via a late-in-the-cycle change to export performance and was unfortunately missed by our testing. We were able to reproduce the issue in-house, a bug was logged, and the fix will be in the next release.

You get banned for doing something... not nothing.

not if nobody has to prove you have done something.

when i would be a MOD i could just ban you right now.... and what have you done?

 

[docholliday]

I, for one, have to sympathize with the admins. I have been the admin on many a board, a server admin on IRC, and administrated many servers around the globe. It is very hard for an admin (who usually tries to stay out of discussions for political or other reasons) to sometimes get the full gist of what a conversation is about. With many items flying up at you from all different directions, you just can't always get what's going on in a certain post. And, since many people are not so skilled in posting sarcasm, jest, or other emotions, some posts may come through wrong.

Then, there are the users who have given reason time and time again via many different conversations why they get banned "easily". A user who rubs everybody wrong at one time or another, but just shy of the ban line will get remembered quickly. Admin's don't always remember the conversation, but we remember names, faces, and definitely attitudes.

If you don't want to be the person who gets "easily" banned, don't be in the minds of the admins - we have better things to do than look for certains names to appear in discussions with high post counts! And, no matter if we get paid to do the job or not, it's the same amount of work!

 

[hamada]

If you don't want to be the person who gets "easily" banned, don't be in the minds of the admins - we have better things to do than look for certains names to appear in discussions with high post counts! And, no matter if we get paid to do the job or not, it's the same amount of work!

mods seem to get their satisfaction on a different level, not from money.
that´s the problem Unfocused mentioned in this thread.
often they do it so they have power, "the last word".
even when it´s only power over a virtuell community.

and as we can see in real life... power corrupts and is abused.

 

[paul13walnut5]

civilised

Us North Americans find your uncivilized spelling of that word to be bollocks.

Keep calm and carry on...

Do you mean 'We' North Americans? Don't bastardize the language we gave you.

 

[bdunbar79]

If you don't want to be the person who gets "easily" banned, don't be in the minds of the admins - we have better things to do than look for certains names to appear in discussions with high post counts! And, no matter if we get paid to do the job or not, it's the same amount of work!

mods seem to get their satisfaction on a different level, not from money.
that´s the problem Unfocused mentioned in this thread.
often they do it so they have power, "the last word".
even when it´s only power over a virtuell community.

and as we can see in real life... power corrupts and is abused.

Let it go. I remember him too, and he was very offensive and I'm not crying that he's gone. Sorry, but that's just the way he was and well, the admins got tired of it. I cringed everytime I opened a thread where he last posted, and it was usually for good reason.

 

[Don Haines]

If you don't want to be the person who gets "easily" banned, don't be in the minds of the admins - we have better things to do than look for certains names to appear in discussions with high post counts! And, no matter if we get paid to do the job or not, it's the same amount of work!

mods seem to get their satisfaction on a different level, not from money.
that´s the problem Unfocused mentioned in this thread.
often they do it so they have power, "the last word".
even when it´s only power over a virtuell community.

and as we can see in real life... power corrupts and is abused.

So what you are saying is that the moderator is drunk with power and is abusing that power..... yet you are still here and have not been sent off to the bit bucket... This is a paradox. If the moderator was abusing power and getting rid of those who displeased them, by pointing this out to the world it would have made you number one on the to-be-destroyed list.... yet here you are....

 

[hamada]

If you don't want to be the person who gets "easily" banned, don't be in the minds of the admins - we have better things to do than look for certains names to appear in discussions with high post counts! And, no matter if we get paid to do the job or not, it's the same amount of work!

mods seem to get their satisfaction on a different level, not from money.
that´s the problem Unfocused mentioned in this thread.
often they do it so they have power, "the last word".
even when it´s only power over a virtuell community.

and as we can see in real life... power corrupts and is abused.

So what you are saying is that the moderator is drunk with power and is abusing that power.....

please get real and don´t put words in my mouth.

it´s what i noticed with many mods, yes.
but i don´t know if it´s the case here.

yet you are still here and have not been sent off to the bit bucket... This is a paradox. If the moderator was abusing power and getting rid of those who displeased them, by pointing this out to the world it would have made you number one on the to-be-destroyed list.... yet here you are....

i am here, yes.
it´s the first time i come in touch with the admin and mods here.
i live in a linear timeline.... i don´t know what the future holds.

 

[hamada]

If you don't want to be the person who gets "easily" banned, don't be in the minds of the admins - we have better things to do than look for certains names to appear in discussions with high post counts! And, no matter if we get paid to do the job or not, it's the same amount of work!

mods seem to get their satisfaction on a different level, not from money.
that´s the problem Unfocused mentioned in this thread.
often they do it so they have power, "the last word".
even when it´s only power over a virtuell community.

and as we can see in real life... power corrupts and is abused.

Let it go. I remember him too, and he was very offensive and I'm not crying that he's gone. Sorry, but that's just the way he was and well, the admins got tired of it. I cringed everytime I opened a thread where he last posted, and it was usually for good reason.

but looking at your posts you are no saint either.

anyway .. i said what i had to say.
i hope the admin gets in touch with me or canon-f1.

 

[Loswr]

I'll admit that I don't remember the context, but I do recall Canon-F1 calling another poster a moron. Obviously, the post was deleted by the mods. Who knows, maybe the poster was one, but that doesn't make it acceptable to state that.

I'm sure it isn't easy to moderate a (relatively) high-traffic forum like this. The TDP forums in which I participate might get 5 posts on a busy day. This board sometimes sees 5 posts a minute.

Anyone who believes that the ability to delete a post or ban a member (when signing up with a new name is not exactly a challenge) is 'power' to be 'abused', has some odd definitions of those words. Dare I say, no one is forcing anyone to participate here, so if you don't like it, you can simply stop visiting the forums.

 

[Loswr]

civilised

Us North Americans find your uncivilized spelling of that word to be bollocks.

Keep calm and carry on...

Do you mean 'We' North Americans? Don't bastardize the language we gave you.

How about we say that I meant US North Americans, so as not to include our neighbours to the north in that statement. After all, CRguy is Canadian, and I wouldn't want to get banned for no good reason...

 

[hamada]

when signing up with a new name is not exactly a challenge

well it is stupid to ban members, if only for this reason, not?

. Dare I say, no one is forcing anyone to participate here, so if you don't like it, you can simply stop visiting the forums.

he did not want to stop participating in case you did not notice.
he was forced.

sure if you don´t like to be spied at by the NSA you can just go to canada.
well on second thought, it will not help. ;D
so avoiding confrontation is not always a solution.

Anyone who believes that the ability to delete a post or ban a member (when signing up with a new name is not exactly a challenge) is 'power' to be 'abused', has some odd definitions of those words

i thought you work with human brains?
then you should know that it is maybe odd that people feel this way, but it´s a fact that they do.

why do you think that some retired people suddenly mutate into wannabe cops?
we have one here who reports any parking violation to the police. he has nothing to do all day then looking at the street. it gives him the feelling he is important.

 

[eml58]

Well I'de agree being a Moderator on a Forum like this has got to be damn difficult, and pretty well Thankless.

I dont involve myself in any other Forum, I do here primarily because CR has some exceptionally talented Photographers, and damn smart technical Guys, who sometimes may be exceptionally talented Photographers, but perhaps not always.

Personally I've had a warning (Gasp), I mentioned the "DR D800" person in a humorous manner, problem was of course I'm Aussie, what we determine as Humour in Aus isn't always seen the same way in most the rest of the World, perhaps the exception being England/Scotland & Ireland, we're sort of Cousins so we tend know each others foibles.

At least the Owner/Administrator in this case has supplied the necessary means for Canon-F1 to contact him and perhaps review his Banning from the site, seems reasonable to me, I'm not going to comment on the Banning, I tend not to get to worked up about threads, if they get to the point of insults, it's time to take my Toys & go Home, trading insults on a Forum of any kind across thousands of Kilometres seems pointless, I'de rather go outside and take a Photo of a Squirrel.

I like this Forum and in General I think the Moderators do a pretty reasonable job, that view may change if they ban me, but quite honestly although I'de be disappointed, I'm sure I'll still sleep well at night, life will go on, I will still be able to read CR each morning and have a laugh, or learn something.

 

[eml58]

civilised

Us North Americans find your uncivilized spelling of that word to be bollocks.

Keep calm and carry on...

Do you mean 'We' North Americans? Don't bastardize the language we gave you.

How about we say that I meant US North Americans, so as not to include our neighbours to the north in that statement. After all, CRguy is Canadian, and I wouldn't want to get banned for no good reason...

That's really very Funny

 

[paul13walnut5]

civilised

Us North Americans find your uncivilized spelling of that word to be bollocks.

Keep calm and carry on...

Do you mean 'We' North Americans? Don't bastardize the language we gave you.

How about we say that I meant US North Americans, so as not to include our neighbours to the north in that statement. After all, CRguy is Canadian, and I wouldn't want to get banned for no good reason...

I thought it was only Americans that didn't do Geography, everybody knows where North America is, even if North Americans don't know where anything else is.

(Mods, please please please take this mild cultural stereotype / xenophobia / racism as a joke, if anybody has misunderstood my intentions and is offended, please be assured I am kidding, now back to my deep fried snickers bar, heroin and penny pinching)

 

[Loswr]

I thought it was only Americans that didn't do Geography, everybody knows where North America is, even if North Americans don't know where anything else is.

Of course we do Geography. You Europeans from the UK are the ones with geography problems. Take Chris Columbus, for example, who produced the Harry Potter movies and also sailed the ocean blue and thought he'd landed in India. See, we do history good too just like we do english good. :

I'de rather go outside and take a Photo of a Squirrel.

Been there. Done that.


EOS 1D X, EF 600mm f/4L IS II USM, 1/320 s, f/4, ISO 6400

 

[tron]

Now that you mention it canon-f1 had insulted me too. It was a thread about the possibility that a future 14-24 will accept filters.
Just because I said there is no such a lens I was attacked by both OP (I don't remember who he was) and canon-f1. The latter was very rude.
I answered to both of them and went on.