Canon 5D mkIV

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Yesterday in Arezzo Italy , two photographer , one japanese and one american (who speak very well japanese ) have tested new camera , completely hidden , but form factor like 5d . Have shooted a particular handmade creation . only used 640012800 Iso 24/70 2,8 II and 24/105 f4. I Don't have more information . The camera will be presented in June

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I´m no product engineer nor developer, but I´m around these, and I would not believe to the fact that there is very well working device which will be in production only after 7 months. Doesn´t work like that these days. Too slow. "There ain´t no Canon 5D Mark IV", or it will propably be sooner.
 
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crashpc said:
I´m no product engineer nor developer, but I´m around these, and I would not believe to the fact that there is very well working device which will be in production only after 7 months. Doesn´t work like that these days. Too slow. "There ain´t no Canon 5D Mark IV", or it will propably be sooner.

Actually, there have been prototypes for a couple of years at least. It does work like that. Canon tries lots of things out before going to production. Some of the parts are long lead time, up to two years in advance. It takes a lot of time to do multiple iterations of hard tooling, and then a inventory of parts must be built up. Building prototype sensors and testing them, and then debugging the selected design take time. Even then, there will be glitches.

There was a lot of evidence that the 7D MK II production was starting up last spring.

Canon has previously announced production rates of similar bodies as being 30,000 a month. Considering world wide distribution, they probably want 250,000 bodies ready to ship on release day. Production starts out slowly and builds up. Starting production now is right on target for a announcement in June and a release date in August.


There were a lot of rumors that the 7D MK II production was starting up last spring.
 
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I hope that they don't bunk up the MP on the 5DIV... for me there is no need. Make another large sensor camera...

IMHO the IV needs to maintain the philosophy of the first 3 5D's. Best all-round FF camera. descent FPS but not excessive, great image quality, great video (not that I use it often), other key core features, good MP but not highest, great AF etc.... the 7DII AF would not be as good on FF as it is not wide enough... make a FF equivalent, fine.
 
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adhocphotographer said:
I hope that they don't bunk up the MP on the 5DIV... for me there is no need. Make another large sensor camera...

IMHO the IV needs to maintain the philosophy of the first 3 5D's. Best all-round FF camera. descent FPS but not excessive, great image quality, great video (not that I use it often), other key core features, good MP but not highest, great AF etc.... the 7DII AF would not be as good on FF as it is not wide enough... make a FF equivalent, fine.

Sir, as seen at the 7D2, I guess there will be NO big update at the sensor (maybe small improvements). I guess the AF system will be updated and the shooting performance too. Nothing else. Enough for us to buy this camera. But nothing revolutionary.

On the other side, Sony is really preparing for an "big hit" in spring with an successor of the Alpha 7 36MP series. My granddaughter in law is working for this Company and heared an verfied rumor. Alpha 7 high MP for sports..... It couls be possible that Canon rises the MP to 24 and makes ist faster (AF, fps) and better low light performance.... (But for me, there will just be an small percentage that this will happen as Canon knows how to milk us....)
 
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xps said:
On the other side, Sony is really preparing for an "big hit" in spring with an successor of the Alpha 7 36MP series. My granddaughter in law is working for this Company and heared an verfied rumor. Alpha 7 high MP for sports..... It couls be possible that Canon rises the MP to 24 and makes ist faster (AF, fps) and better low light performance.... (But for me, there will just be an small percentage that this will happen as Canon knows how to milk us....)

the "milking us" part will soon be over. More precisely: the moment Sony delivers a "really right" mirrorless A9, flanked by a "holy trinity" of f/2.8 FE zooms. No more need for a marginally iterated 5D Mk. IV then. 8)
 
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adhocphotographer said:
I hope that they don't bunk up the MP on the 5DIV... for me there is no need. Make another large sensor camera...

IMHO the IV needs to maintain the philosophy of the first 3 5D's. Best all-round FF camera. descent FPS but not excessive, great image quality, great video (not that I use it often), other key core features, good MP but not highest, great AF etc.... the 7DII AF would not be as good on FF as it is not wide enough... make a FF equivalent, fine.

+1
 
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AvTvM said:
xps said:
On the other side, Sony is really preparing for an "big hit" in spring with an successor of the Alpha 7 36MP series. My granddaughter in law is working for this Company and heared an verfied rumor. Alpha 7 high MP for sports..... It couls be possible that Canon rises the MP to 24 and makes ist faster (AF, fps) and better low light performance.... (But for me, there will just be an small percentage that this will happen as Canon knows how to milk us....)

the "milking us" part will soon be over. More precisely: the moment Sony delivers a "really right" mirrorless A9, flanked by a "holy trinity" of f/2.8 FE zooms. No more need for a marginally iterated 5D Mk. IV then. 8)

+1 - my body is ready to switch !
 
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schmidtfilme said:
AvTvM said:
xps said:
On the other side, Sony is really preparing for an "big hit" in spring with an successor of the Alpha 7 36MP series. My granddaughter in law is working for this Company and heared an verfied rumor. Alpha 7 high MP for sports..... It couls be possible that Canon rises the MP to 24 and makes ist faster (AF, fps) and better low light performance.... (But for me, there will just be an small percentage that this will happen as Canon knows how to milk us....)

the "milking us" part will soon be over. More precisely: the moment Sony delivers a "really right" mirrorless A9, flanked by a "holy trinity" of f/2.8 FE zooms. No more need for a marginally iterated 5D Mk. IV then. 8)

+1 - my body is ready to switch !

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The 5DIV needs to be a full-frame version of the 7DII - including dual pixel technology. And it absolutely must have an OVF or it's DOA for probably 90% of its user base.
 
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AvTvM said:
xps said:
On the other side, Sony is really preparing for an "big hit" in spring with an successor of the Alpha 7 36MP series. My granddaughter in law is working for this Company and heared an verfied rumor. Alpha 7 high MP for sports..... It couls be possible that Canon rises the MP to 24 and makes ist faster (AF, fps) and better low light performance.... (But for me, there will just be an small percentage that this will happen as Canon knows how to milk us....)

the "milking us" part will soon be over. More precisely: the moment Sony delivers a "really right" mirrorless A9, flanked by a "holy trinity" of f/2.8 FE zooms. No more need for a marginally iterated 5D Mk. IV then. 8)

If they can't deliver better AF than the A7II, there is a whole lot of need for the 5DIV...
 
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tayassu said:
If they can't deliver better AF than the A7II, there is a whole lot of need for the 5DIV...

What exactly is left to get better anyway with ff phase af? The only obvious difference is the size of the af array, i.e. the spread of the af points to the edges. But looking at all ff cameras, Canon or not, this seems to be either very hard or very expensive to do.

Thus I imagine the 5d4 advances will be different:
* minor fps advancement
* minor advancement in res
* but dpaf and 120fps@hd for video
* 7d2+ fw features (anti filicker, intervalometer, ...)
* 7d2 hw features (gps, sealing)
* 5d3 bugs fixed (slow sd writing, no af indicator while tracking).

The real question for the 5d3's success is if there will be any visible advance in sensor iq, at least to 6d/1dx/7d2 lack of banding and maybe 0,5-1ev better snr. Combine that, and it's solid upgrade like Canon likes it.
 
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