I'd say close to the 5D3 when it came out, but that's only a wild guess.
$3499 ftw. My guess as well.
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I'd say close to the 5D3 when it came out, but that's only a wild guess.
Amazing the level of responses on this compared the relatively muted response to the 1DX III.
I'm delighted Canon is bringing out such a camera but where are they going from here.
Perhaps the 1DX3 is targeted at professionals who don't spend that much time on fora like this...
The current EOS R was dead on arrival!
It simply does not compare to the others in its price range. Like the A7III. The Sony came with IBIS, dual slots, uncropped 4k and extensive lense range.
As a long term 5D mark3/mark 4 user I think I am probably the type of customer that Canon had in mind when developing the EOS R5. If the final specifications are anything like what was in the development announcement then I will definitely be buying one, not as a replacement for my 5D mark 4 but to use alongside it. At first I will continue to use my 5D mark 4 for most of my work, and only replace my 24-105 F4L and 50mm F1.2L EF lenses with the RF equivalents. So for a while at least I will be using both types of lens, depending what type of work I am planning to do.If Canon wanted people to have dslr and r, then it doesn't do R with a new bayonet. Who wants to carry both sets of lenses?
Absolutely agreed - they presented the R as a complement to the rest of the system, not an encouragement to drop everything and move over. "You don't switch to the EOS R system; it seamlessly integrates with your current EOS equipment."That might be the wrong take for that product, IMHO. The R was never aimed at the competition.
It was aimed at we, The EF Faithful.
EOS R was Canon saying:
And I think a lot of folks were too eager to wait for a next version and jumped in early. Canon accomplished what they needed to: build energy and enthusiasm around the platform and get folks thinking about the future. That's it.
- Here is our first ever FF mirrorless -- get first access to skull splitting next gen glass.
- It works perfectly with all your EF lenses, you so don't have to migrate -- just experiment vs. your SLR side by side or carry it as a second body
- It has a 5D4 sensor and you don't have to pay a 5D4 price for it.
- 5D4 owners, would you like the same sensor with the tilty-flippy we didn't give to you with your SLR?
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As a long term 5D mark3/mark 4 user I think I am probably the type of customer that Canon had in mind when developing the EOS R5. If the final specifications are anything like what was in the development announcement then I will definitely be buying one, not as a replacement for my 5D mark 4 but to use alongside it.
Absolutely agreed - they presented the R as a complement to the rest of the system, not an encouragement to drop everything and move over. "You don't switch to the EOS R system; it seamlessly integrates with your current EOS equipment."
Considering that the 1dx3 has doubled it’s capacity from the 1dx2 I say Canon has made some pretty amazing progress in battery life department. And that is NO DOUBT because mirrorless needs a serious bump in battery life.The Elephant in the room for every electronic item is battery power! The tech is severely lagging.
8K = 33mp ~ 45mp on a 3:2 sensor. So it is slightly challenging to do 8K on a 20mp sensor.8K query. So the flagship 1Dx doesn't do i8K at 20 mp but the R5 can at 45 mp. Is it harder to generate 8K at lower megapixels or easier?
The Elephant in the room for every electronic item is battery power! The tech is severely lagging.
I don’t feel bad at all for paying what I paid. No weeping necessary.The current EOS R was dead on arrival!
It simply does not compare to the others in its price range. Like the A7III. The Sony came with IBIS, dual slots, uncropped 4k and extensive lense range.
But it’s all relative, if the EOS R were $1300-$1400, then I’d say it’s priced correctly. To compete with higher end APS-C like the X-T3.
The people that bought it at +$2000 I weep for them. They were definitely drinking the Canon koolaid.
Hopefully with the EOS R6 we see them compete in that $2000 range better. And EOS R drops down in the $1400 range with the RP in the $1000 range.
Can anyone guess what the crop factor will be on video at 4k? I am hoping for no crop. If on 8k it is 1.6x, at 6k 1.2x, then perhaps at 4k no crop? I am not at all knowledgeable about this... So any guesses?
Can anyone guess what the crop factor will be on video at 4k? I am hoping for no crop. If on 8k it is 1.6x, at 6k 1.2x, then perhaps at 4k no crop? I am not at all knowledgeable about this... So any guesses?
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I can already tell you what the resolution will be for STILLS PHOTOS when Canon says the R5 can capture 8K video!
Unfortunately they don't tell you whether the video capture is DCI 8K (8192 by 4320 pixels) or UHDTV capture (7680 by 4320 pixels)
1) if it's DCI 8K then the STILL PHOTO CMOS sensor resolution WILL BE 8192x5455 or 44,687,360 total pixels (44.68 megapixels)
2) if it's UHDTV 8K then the STILL PHOTO CMOS sensor resolution WILL BE 7680x5120 or 39,321,600 total pixels (39.32 megapixels)
This means the camera CAN BE 44.68 megapixels (the most likely resolution!) OR it can be 39.32 megapixels.
This is because Canon ALWAYS does a 3:2 aspect ratio for it's still photo camera sensors AND since I HAPPEN TO KNOW A LOT OF MATH and that DCI 8K is ALWAYS 8192 by 4320, you can simply use 8192 as the starting base for calculating the VERTICAL RESOLUTION which SHOULD BE 8192x5455 pixels.
In many cases, it might be MORE because Canon has to normally ADD extra pixels outside of the sensing area for sensor calibration purposes, so it MIGHT be slightly more when it gets introduced. (i.e. but no more than 120 extra pixels on the horizontal and vertical)
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Based on some comments, one would thing that all the mirrorless negatives have evaporated, almost overnight. How is this possible? I think we're simply hearing enthusiasm for something many have not really fully tried/evaluated and in due course, they may be overjoyed or still somewhat frustrated. I'm sure I'll still have frustrations.
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