Canon announces development of the EOS R5 full-frame mirrorless camera

[deleteme]

DP is saying 'Likely 40MP'.

Are they likely to have insider knowledge??

In theory 40MP because of alleged 8K video.

 

[Richard CR]

Well, I too think Canon will cripple this 8k in some way and yet we are going to pay a lot for this feature. Nevertheless, this is a very nice and proud moment to be in Canon camp. I almost forgot how does it feel when beloved brand releases something so cool.

no ILC outside of 20K+++ systems has 8K video of any sort.. and it's "crippling"?

yes, it probably doesn't have DPAF btw.

I wouldn't call it crippled though.

 

[deleteme]

Good one. I wonder how well the flip screen will work with an L-bracket.

I got the ProMedia gear bracket for my R and it is perfect. The RRS and Kirk brackets do not allow proper use of the flip out screen. The PMG does allow almost full range with just a bit of limit. Miles better than the competition.

 

[Laslen]

Canon needs something like real time subject tracking to make this a real Sony killer, not just eye tracking.

 

[deleteme]

So far the improved ergonomics, dual cards, IBIS and high frame rate mean it is a winner already.
As for the sensor, it beggars belief that it would not have some significant improvements in performance.

OTOH, I haven't had any clients look at my images and say "Hmmmm, you aren't using a Sony are you." or "Your DR seems 1/2 stop short of Nikon".

 

[Quackator]

Sony may announce something soon, but who cares?

Sony.... is who?

 

[Traveler]

I think alot of stills shooters might prefer the normal flip up/down instead of articulating. For me the articulating is a huge draw

I love it as a still shooter. Some of my favorite photos wouldn’t happen without it.
1) portrait orientation photos from low or above the head shots
2) when it needs to be very close to a wall or anything that doesn’t allow me to see the back of the canera
3) shooting up from a low position
Etc
And it protects the screen when closed

 

[Quarkcharmed]

that's impossible IMO. the moon properly exposed is nearly same as daylight exposure.

I know I was referring to this glorious moon thread.

 

[Viggo]

Using a 100-500 with 2x extender seems like mirrorless territority in f-stops. But the camera will be highly anticipated from me.

 

[wockawocka]

Looks like a traditional joystick beside the AF ON button Not the new selector from the 1D3

TBH, this is fine. I wanted something more tactile and responsive back rather than the 'my fingers are greasy so I'm not going to work' sensor on the 1DXiii

This is better, not worse imho.

 

[Quarkcharmed]

I got the ProMedia gear bracket for my R and it is perfect. The RRS and Kirk brackets do not allow proper use of the flip out screen. The PMG does allow almost full range with just a bit of limit. Miles better than the competition.

That helps! Will look into ProMedia later on, if I buy this camera. Thanks!

 

[Joules]

I have never been more sure about anything: it will clearly be six more 24-105 lenses.

- A

I was thinking of 50mm variants with all the apertures you don't want

 

[proutprout]

Finally something interesting ! Now i have one question : will this be the top of the line ? Or should we expect a 1d equivalent ? Interesting to see what camera that would be then !

 

[dtaylor]

Also, no mention of frame rate for 8k...

Well, you can be pretty sure that it's at least 24p and likely 30p. The odds of it being any higher at 8k are slim to none. But...FREAKING 8K!!!

 

[dtaylor]

Well, I too think Canon will cripple this 8k in some way and yet we are going to pay a lot for this feature. Nevertheless, this is a very nice and proud moment to be in Canon camp. I almost forgot how does it feel when beloved brand releases something so cool.

I think Canon has looked at the collapsing ILC market and their own sales/revenue and realized that they can't afford to cripple any more.

 

[-pekr-]

The turbo charged AF-ON that is on the 1DX Mark III.

Exactly - look at some 1DX III videos. New AF-ON with the sensor looks to be much faster in moving the focus points, than the manual joystick is. Wonder why Canon did it to us, to not include it, as the R5 is going to be a top line R body, and it came even sooner with the 1DX III. Seems to be another marketing trickery aka crippling on the Canon's side.

 

[Joules]

yes, it probably doesn't have DPAF btw.

I wouldn't call it crippled though.

Imagine if it had AF in 8K or 20 FPS mode. Literally everybody will be DOOMED. Especially Canon, for crippling the throughput on the 1DX III.

 

[dtaylor]

That’s a nice glass half full attitude. But, it’s a disappointment to those of us who want some real extra reach. f/7.1 is better suited to low resolution sensors and it’s not going to take the full advantage of high resolution ones.

f/7.1 is just below the diffraction limit on 45/50mp sensors.

Wait...are we calling 45/50mp sensors "low resolution" now, in anticipation of the "high resolution" unannounced 83mp monster?

 

[dtaylor]

So much good news but not a word about the dynamic range of the R5. Will it handle a decent nightscape with the moon in it?..

This is clearly bait designed to get us all to post moon photos again

 

[Joules]

Seems to be another marketing trickery aka crippling on the Canon's side.

Seems more like they took the feedback from people seriously. If you want an innovative way of. Moving your AF, dragging with the touchscreen should still be an option here. If you're a 5D guy and want similar ergonomics, you'll now also get the controls you're used too, so you get the best of both worlds.