Canon Announces First Lens in Series of Fixed Focal Length RF Hybrid Lenses – RF35mm F1.4L VCM

[Loswr]

Is there any difference IQ-wise or performance-wise associated with the 67mm rather than 72mm thread size (in general)?
Keep it simple for me. Thanks!

Could mean more vignetting. We’ll see.

 

[frankchn]

Could mean more vignetting. We’ll see.

I wonder if that is the reason for putting in support for rear filters -- two thick front filters results mechanical vignetting?

 

[pzyber]

Is there any difference IQ-wise or performance-wise associated with the 67mm rather than 72mm thread size (in general)?
Keep it simple for me. Thanks!

Seems to have quite a bit of vignetting and strong barrel distortion, hence forced in camera/DPP corrections. But otherwise the IQ looks great from what I can read. Just make sure to use the profiles.

 

[EOS 4 Life]

It would also make more sense to sell the higher margin lens first (which would be a f/1.2) before launching lower margin products, or at least launching them together.

Canon was under pressure to make a 35 and lower cost lenses.
They killed 2 birds with one stone.
This is the start of a new line so we know that more are coming.
I agree that they should have started with f/1.2 but that should have been 5 years ago.

 

[scyrene]

release the crippled version first

Are you serious?

 

[Loswr]

Are you serious?

Yes. Obviously, the loss of 0.45 stops is crippling. At least, f/number stops. Probably less loss in terms of light transmission, the difference between the EF 85/1.2L II and EF 85/1.4L is just 0.1 T-stops, for example. But still crippling.

Furthermore, the razor-thin DoF one can achieve with a 35mm lens (when the front element is almost pressing against the subject) will be massively affected by that 0.45 stop loss.

Just another case of Canon’s cripple hammer. Only the suckers will buy the f/1.4 version. Real men photographers will hold out for the vastly superior, non-crippled f/1.2 version. Even if only to buy it for their real men photographer kids since they’ll be too old to lift it when it finally arrives.

Except we know it’s not crippled. How? Because even @roby17269 said he might buy one!

 

[roby17269]

Yes. Obviously, the loss of 0.45 stops is crippling. At least, f/number stops. Probably less loss in terms of light transmission, the difference between the EF 85/1.2L II and EF 85/1.4L is just 0.1 T-stops, for example. But still crippling.

Furthermore, the razor-thin DoF one can achieve with a 35mm lens (when the front element is almost pressing against the subject) will be massively affected by that 0.45 stop loss.

Just another case of Canon’s cripple hammer. Only the suckers will buy the f/1.4 version. Real men photographers will hold out for the vastly superior, non-crippled f/1.2 version. Even if only to buy it for their real men photographer kids since they’ll be too old to lift it when it finally arrives.

Except we know it’s not crippled. How? Because even @roby17269 said he might buy one!

To be precise... I have admitted that I have indeed pre-ordered one
Because I think it is a good lens and I need a 35mm sooner rather than later.
The only scenario where I do not get one now is if Canon announces a 35 1.2 BEFORE I receive my 1.4
Still have a bit of bitter aftertaste but I am trying to be as rational as I can

 

[davidespinosa]

When the f/1.2 finally arrives, we'll have f/1.2, f/1.4, and f/1.8 !

 

[esspy2]

Perhaps Canon had an RF 35mm F/1.2L in the pipeline and decided it wasn’t worth to put it out while they were planning a line of F1.4L VCM primes. Perhaps an 85mm F/1.4L VCM and 50mm F/1.4L VCM are being thrown around the Canon boardrooms with an identical size and similar weight for switching across gimbals and film sets à la Panasonic F/1.8 or Samyanf V-AF series. The RF 1.2s are out, but aren’t optimized for video much. These new RF F/1.4s can fit video needs. I can see an 18mm, 24mm, 28mm, 50mm, 85mm, and 100mm set being released in the far, far future.

 

[ashmadux]

what F1.4 under 85mm prime has Canon ever made with IS?

IS benefits longer focal lengths more than shorter ones, and it's considerably more difficult to put IS into a small lens - especially the L grade IS. Not to mention I dont' think any of Canon's cini primes have IS either. It adds quite a bit of weight, and depending on the focusing groups (which this lens has 2), it could be damned well near impossible because you need a optical group to shift around that isn't tied to focus AND there's enough room around it for the IS mechanics. Oh and add more money for the creation of the pocket universe to shove all that weight and additional size into.

But you can always get the Sony 35mm F1.4 GM with IS... oh wait.

Interesting. How does this relate to the 35 f2 IS (great lil lens) and the the current 85 f2 RF IS in terms of build?

 

[ashmadux]

Mostly agree. Long lenses are heavy and the slightest shake is magnified. Wide lenses shake is not magnified because the subject is far and the relative camera movement is less. BUT, when wide lenses are used with a subject close to the camera, in the foreground, that is where the shake is visible. So IS or IBIS is nice to have.

It's always amazing to have, imho. Shooting handheld with the very prone to the shakes m62, with the 11-22, is just fantastic and i have been routinely shocked at how sharp some random, quick images can look without effort. There's a reason that lens has IS on it, which is not very clear according to how canon disperses IS in their lenses.

Not so with the primes/sigma primes. Quickly made shots usually means soft to some degree.

And this is with a m62 thats in a smallrig cage, to be able to fight the lightweight and help stabilize the body.

 

[Loswr]

Interesting. How does this relate to the 35 f2 IS (great lil lens) and the the current 85 f2 RF IS in terms of build?

It's harder to put an IS group in a faster lens. Likely that Canon also considers the target market – buyers of a $1500 35/1.4L are more likely to have a body with IBIS than buyers of a $450 35/1.8.

 

[ashmadux]

I'm also now very curious where the EF 35 f2 IS falls on this list. I know it is soft wide open, but I almost exclusively shoot this lens at 2.8 and it give nice crisp images. Super sharp edges aren't the most important but the more sharp the frame is, the better.

Now I just started using on an r5, and its showing way more aberrations than it used to dude to the better sensor (on 5d3, its relatively well controlled).

So I am not interested in a better 35 for the r5. But 1400.00 is not chump change, and is almost double the price of sigmas 1.4 options on E/L mount, more or less. I don't need a L 35, but I certainly need better than the rf 35. HMph.

 

[Del Paso]

$1499 for a 35 f1,4 L that is also a new hybrid, that scares me regarding IQ… Is a 1.2 coming?

I expect an F/1

 

[ashmadux]

Exciting lens, probably still out of my budget.

A sigma 1/4 would be about 700/800, and still high quality.

With canon, we get the same two choices..very expensive or cheap and blah. I cant wait to get my hands on the s5ii, im so tired of these limited choices.

 

[Del Paso]

A sigma 1/4 would be about 700/800, and still high quality.

With canon, we get the same two choices..very expensive or cheap and blah. I cant wait to get my hands on the s5ii, im so tired of these limited choices.

We will miss you so much!

 

[Surab]

A sigma 1/4 would be about 700/800, and still high quality.

With canon, we get the same two choices..very expensive or cheap and blah. I cant wait to get my hands on the s5ii, im so tired of these limited choices.

I just joined! haha Though I was aware of what Canon's pricing is and will be like.

 

[Loswr]

We will miss you so much!

You know how you sometimes have a rude guest who does nothing but complain about the food and ambience, but still won’t just leave?

 

[BostonPaul]

Not sure if this was always there, but I now see a ship date on BH and Canon's site. June 27. Maybe have for 4th of July fireworks!

 

[Loswr]

Maybe have for 4th of July fireworks!

Fireworks are usually shot at f/8 - f/11 so an f/1.4 lens is not usually needed, but I like the enthusiasm (even if it’s not a lens for me).