Canon announces more mind blowing specs for the Canon EOS R5

RMac

5Diii 7D M5 C300
I'm putting my Sony gear up for sale and switching back to Canon inshaAllah! I sold my 5D3 and lenses last year and jumped on the Sony train because I just couldn't get what I wanted from Canon... BUT THIS IS GOLD!
Wow, talk about pissing your money away! What happens when Sony or someone else beats Canon’s R5 specs? LCD 1mm larger, e.g. Toss it all again until someone goes 2mm larger?

I for one would like to thank CanonOmar for doing his part to keep major interchangable lens camera manufacturers solvent in the face of a shrinking market.
 
  • Like
  • Haha
Reactions: 10 users

gatabo

I'm New Here
Feb 28, 2020
19
18
This is all spectacular of course, but I find it most interesting that the sensor resolution specs are still not included. I worked for Canon so I know better than most that practicality is a big consideration for Canon. They are likely testing different sensors and processors to see what works best. My guess is that they’re going to have an 8K sensor or an 8K DCI sensor which equals about 33 or 35 megapixels. An 8K sensor means less processing and easier to achieve all the spectacular specs. Everyone should remember that the 5 series cameras are the Swiss Army knives. It is not supposed to be the high-resolution camera, it’s supposed to be a bit of everything.
it is 8k DCI , so almost 36MP for 1.9:1 Video and 45MP for the 3:2 photo.
 
  • Like
Reactions: 1 users

cpreston

EOS 90D
Mar 22, 2014
126
64
Am I crazy or does this potentially eat into some C500 sales? If you're looking for FF 4k 60fps clog 10bit 422, your only option was to go with the full $16k C500 m2 beast. This would be an option at 1/4 the price that loses some features people may be willing to part with considering the savings...

For the no budget filmmaker looking at Canon cameras, I think it really takes the gloss off of the C500MKII as the camera to own. But the R5 isn't really competing in the market the C500 is targeting. The lack of XLR, timecode, dual slot recording, button controls, SDI, etc. are all things that make it unfeasible for a person who might actually be considering a C500. Or a C300.
 

docsmith

EOS R
CR Pro
Sep 17, 2010
1,094
559
For what it is worth, Lensrentals has the R5 available for pre-order at $271/week, which is significantly more than the 5DIV, Sony A7RIV, etc but less than the 1DX III. Usually, they are 5-7% of the asking price, so that would be $3,871 to $5,400. For direct comparison, the 1DX III rental price of $347/week is 5.34% of the asking price, which would put the R5 at $5,075.

Based on this, how about $4,999 initial price?
 
Last edited:
  • Like
Reactions: 1 user

IcyBergs

I have a Sony...TV
May 31, 2016
132
284
I'm glad Canon is addressing the trolls with this camera.

Hopefully they'll address the still shooters with the R6.
 
  • Like
Reactions: 1 user

padam

EOS R
Aug 26, 2015
1,270
930
This is all spectacular of course, but I find it most interesting that the sensor resolution specs are still not included. I worked for Canon so I know better than most that practicality is a big consideration for Canon. They are likely testing different sensors and processors to see what works best. My guess is that they’re going to have an 8K sensor or an 8K DCI sensor which equals about 33 or 35 megapixels. An 8K sensor means less processing and easier to achieve all the spectacular specs. Everyone should remember that the 5 series cameras are the Swiss Army knives. It is not supposed to be the high-resolution camera, it’s supposed to be a bit of everything.
It shoots 8K DCI (8192x4320) without a crop, so it can be estimated pretty well, it should be 45 MP for stils.
 
  • Like
Reactions: 1 users

PureClassA

Canon since age 5. The A1
CR Pro
Aug 15, 2014
2,124
825
Mandeville, LA
Shields-Photography.com
You can check out some 1DX III reviews, it is the same codec as in that camera, and yes, it is very demanding even at 4K, let alone 8K. (But of course it will be easier with further hardware developments)
If you’re really using this for video, then it’s worth the extra $600 for the Atomos Ninja V. Then the internal codec becomes a non issue anyway and makes post production orders of magnitude easier. Not to mention the cost of CFExpress vs. a decent SSD. Of course you have a few tecording modes that are internal only but for most folks I’m guessing they will be far more seldom used.
 
  • Like
Reactions: 1 user

bmfotonet

I'm New Here
Jun 17, 2017
21
14
Chicago
Visit site
How many people will actually use the 8K or high bitrate 4K modes? I still shoot everything in 1080p for my youtube channel for ease of editing and uploading. I can understand for professional productions for Netflix, etc. but for not for amateurs and youtubers. Are people mostly excited to have internet bragging rights even if they will never shoot anything in those modes?
 
  • Like
  • Wow
Reactions: 2 users

padam

EOS R
Aug 26, 2015
1,270
930
If you’re really using this for video, then it’s worth the extra $600 for the Atomos Ninja V. Then the internal codec becomes a non issue anyway and makes post production orders of magnitude easier. Not to mention the cost of CFExpress vs. a decent SSD. Of course you have a few tecording modes that are internal only but for most folks I’m guessing they will be far more seldom used.
Yep, although it is kind of funny that finally there is 10-bit 4:2:2 internal recording but it is just not practical at all to use (for now).
 

davidhfe

EOS RP
CR Pro
Sep 9, 2015
310
462
How many people will actually use the 8K or high bitrate 4K modes? I still shoot everything in 1080p for my youtube channel for ease of editing and uploading. I can understand for professional productions for Netflix, etc. but for not for amateurs and youtubers. Are people mostly excited to have internet bragging rights even if they will never shoot anything in those modes?

I do some goofy internal stuff for work on my 5D4, and I shoot it in 4K. Because I only do it occasionally the codec isn't a huge issue for me, and the quality is fantastic. First thing people say when they see the footage is "wow, it's so sharp!" Gives it a professional 'look' which can go a long way. Usually I'm projecting on huge screens (event venue stuff), and even though I deliver in 1080, the downsampled 4K looks way nicer. MJPEG gets a bad rap for valid reasons, but image quality sure isn't one of them.

If I had a daily or weekly workflow, my tune would likely change.
 

herein2020

Run | Gun Shooter
Mar 13, 2020
267
364
How many people will actually use the 8K or high bitrate 4K modes? I still shoot everything in 1080p for my youtube channel for ease of editing and uploading. I can understand for professional productions for Netflix, etc. but for not for amateurs and youtubers. Are people mostly excited to have internet bragging rights even if they will never shoot anything in those modes?
Filming at 8K has nothing to do with delivering at 8K. I will use 8K for many occasions just like I currently use 4K for all occasions; for pan, crop, zoom, and stabilization purposes. I deliver in 1080P but always shoot in 4K. Since 8K uses so much storage I foresee shooting in 8K to be a more rare occurrence than 4K but there could definitely be situations where 8K would be useful such as when your longest lens does not zoom in close enough to the speaker, or your camera is on a tripod yet you want to add a slide, tilt, dolly in, dolly out or some combination of these to the shot for effect.

https://www.techradar.com/news/canon-eos-r5 writes:
"As for the price tag, we can only presume it would be competing with the 45.7MP Nikon Z7, or perhaps even the 61MP Sony Alpha A7R IV. If that's the case, be prepared to shell out something well over the $3,500 / £3,500 / AU$4,500 mark. "

I hope not more....

Like I have been saying for months..the Panasonic S1H is priced at $4K, this has better specs than the S1H, no way this will be less than $3999.00.
 
  • Like
Reactions: 1 users

BillB

EOS R
May 11, 2017
1,393
659
And I think the live announcement is over now.

No price
No availability
No confirmation of sensor res

Why so tease-y, so cagey at this relatively late hour? Are they worried about being scooped with an A7 IV or something?

- A
Well, this was a video centric news event, so they centered on the video.
 
  • Like
Reactions: 2 users

shawn

EOS M6 Mark II
Jan 28, 2019
66
67
I don't think this will be priced above what the 5D IV was at its release date. The specifications are great, but cell phones have been doing 4k 120fps for years now. Compared to a lowly cellphone Canon is playing catch up on specs. Plus, look at the camera body, it is very similar to the R. Doubling the price on it seems like wishful thinking without going to a fully new camera body. And of course this isn't a 1 series body so it won't be anywhere near that price. Finally, there is a mirrorless discount to consider. Canon is already leveraging the reduced costs of mirrorless bodies with the R and RP, I expect that to continue. All this tells me the price will be right around $3,000.
 
  • Like
Reactions: 1 users

gmon750

EOS 90D
CR Pro
Jan 30, 2015
128
82
I'm putting my Sony gear up for sale and switching back to Canon inshaAllah! I sold my 5D3 and lenses last year and jumped on the Sony train because I just couldn't get what I wanted from Canon... BUT THIS IS GOLD!

I still use my 5DM3 professionally and refused to jump ship. I wouldn't switch to Sony if you paid me. Canon was the sleeping tiger and when I saw the amazing first-class RF lenses it was putting out, I knew (ok, really hoping) they were going to come out with a stellar pro-level RF body. They did not disappoint.

If the real-world performance matches what Canon is advertising, I may finally make the switch to the R5. I'm hoping for decent battery life.
 
  • Like
Reactions: 1 users

Sharlin

EOS R
CR Pro
Dec 26, 2015
1,375
1,317
Turku, Finland
it is 8k DCI , so almost 36MP for 1.9:1 Video and 45MP for the 3:2 photo.

Well, unless the sensor native aspect ratio is wider than 3:2. But in that case either you'd need a sensor physically larger than FF (with the corners, outside the FF image circle, being cropped out whether in movie or stills mode) or the stills mode would have a crop which really is not going to happen given that this is marketed as a FF camera.
 

PureClassA

Canon since age 5. The A1
CR Pro
Aug 15, 2014
2,124
825
Mandeville, LA
Shields-Photography.com
Yep, although it is kind of funny that finally there is 10-bit 4:2:2 internal recording but it is just not practical at all to use (for now).
The more I've thought about it over time the more I just figure Canon would rather offer the best quality internal codec possible you can also use to grab stills from. It's not like Canon is ever going to pay Apple their fee to use ProRes internally. I dont think any such camera does. And if someone is bothering to shoot in a LOG gamma, then Canon also assumes this person is an experienced user, who knows what they are doing, and get the fact you're going to have to do some re-encoding in post (maybe) or you're probably using a Ninja or some other external ProRes and Log capable recorder. I think otherwise, the more casual user will just use the simple IPB mode and be perfectly happy with it. (Again, speaking only for HD and 4K modes here as nothing else besides Canon's software can even properly read its 8K yet)
 

michi

EOS RP
Jul 26, 2011
275
12
I wonder how much money it would save if they split the line. One camera without video capability and one with. With all the Canon DSLR’s I have owned, I have never once taken a video. I would love to save some money and buy a R5 without the video capabilities. I guess that will never happen. R&D probably costs the bulk, and they would use me to pay for that even though I don’t use it. Still, would be nice.
 
  • Like
  • Love
Reactions: 2 users