Canon Cannot Keep Screwing It's Customers Over

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Radiating said:
...I just don't feel comfortable buying any Canon gear any more.

Radiating said:
I picked up a new T4i for $480 today.

Radiating said:
...Canon is actively trying to screw over it's customers without lube

Ok, so...you 'don't feel comfortable' buying Canon gear anymore, and yet, you bought more Canon gear, this very day. From that, one can only conclude that you enjoy the discomfort of being screwed over without lube... ::)
 
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Nikon realized they need to hook customers first before they can sell a lot. If they can bait enough from emerging clients from Asia, they will have a good customer base in the future. Once somebody is invested in a system, most of the time, they tend to stick to that system. I guess that's the reason of the current aggressive pricing of their camera bodies. Canon should be careful. Trends like these are like diseases. It will grow if you don't cut it. I also think that's the reason of Canon's action regarding prices. Once they've seen the competition, they are forced to bring down also their prices. I guess they're just trying to milk the market first during initial product launch then they bring down prices as soon as they can see some fluctuation from their sales figures. That's why it is always prudent to wait.
 
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ChilledXpress said:
nonac said:
ChilledXpress said:
You should be on the other thread "right now i am not happy to be a canon user" and you two can have a pitty party. Booo hooo hooo hoo !!!!

Still stunned that people complain about spending their money. Damn Canon... they forced me to buy a great camera and now, months later, I don't like the price I paid because I couldn't wait. They screwed me!!!! Whaaaa whaaa... Adults make decisions about where to spend their money... you have no one to blame but yourself if you have buyer’s remorse. If you can't afford the price of entry and it's a financial hardship... you shouldn't be spending money you don’t have.

I could afford what I paid, I even held out about 4 months after release to see if the price would move, it did not, so I bought it. Then the price starts falling. I could afford it, I just don't like wasting money that could have been spent on other gear.

Again... buyers remorse. You should have waited until the mark 7 comes out, then you can score a mark 3 for for under 500$ on Ebay... in 2022! What I don't understand is how this is a "new" thing for some here. Like you were totally unaware there will be a price drop... A search of the threads on this forum will show that even before a new version comes out someone is asking "How long until the price drops on model X?"

I bought a 7D in 2009... I'm soooo pissed at the current price!!! Canon is horrible to lower the price that much. I wasted sooo much money. If only I had waited 3 years. The reality is that I bought the camera new and have enjoyed every single moment with it during this time... I was NOT ripped off. I put on my big boy pants, bought the camera and went out and took photos. I knew exactly what I was doing and I did not open a thread complaing about how evil Canon marketing is.

Take some solace in the fact that after the 21st you won’t have to wallow in the shame of spending more than you think you should have. Have a Happy Mayan New year!!!

You are talking 3 YEARS on the 7d price drop. I'm talking 3 months and its 20% cheaper, and I waited 3-4 months after release to see if it would fall due to the comments I read. That's quite a bit of difference in such a short time span. A toons are louder than words and as I stated on won't be buying anything else until at least a year after initial launch. I'm a hobbyist, so "jobs" mean nothing to me as far as recouping that early adopter surcharge that many of you mention.
 
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Radiating said:
and I picked up a new T4i for $480 today.

Congrats! Sounds like a bargain. But don't you think too that was only possible because early adopters paid twice as much when the t4i was released?

sanj said:
Yeah I agree, price drops happened a bit too fast.

Yes, hopefully prices will go up again soon ;)

Cannon Man said:
Who cares about pricing? i don't.
I just care that the product is well made.

Maybe it's surprising to you, but there are indeed people who are not photographing for living but just for fun every now and then. They can't set their gear off against tax liability and may also have other hobbies - but having said this: I don't understand either why these people need the latest gear...
 
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nonac said:
ChilledXpress said:
nonac said:
ChilledXpress said:
You should be on the other thread "right now i am not happy to be a canon user" and you two can have a pitty party. Booo hooo hooo hoo !!!!

Still stunned that people complain about spending their money. Damn Canon... they forced me to buy a great camera and now, months later, I don't like the price I paid because I couldn't wait. They screwed me!!!! Whaaaa whaaa... Adults make decisions about where to spend their money... you have no one to blame but yourself if you have buyer’s remorse. If you can't afford the price of entry and it's a financial hardship... you shouldn't be spending money you don’t have.

I could afford what I paid, I even held out about 4 months after release to see if the price would move, it did not, so I bought it. Then the price starts falling. I could afford it, I just don't like wasting money that could have been spent on other gear.

Again... buyers remorse. You should have waited until the mark 7 comes out, then you can score a mark 3 for for under 500$ on Ebay... in 2022! What I don't understand is how this is a "new" thing for some here. Like you were totally unaware there will be a price drop... A search of the threads on this forum will show that even before a new version comes out someone is asking "How long until the price drops on model X?"

I bought a 7D in 2009... I'm soooo pissed at the current price!!! Canon is horrible to lower the price that much. I wasted sooo much money. If only I had waited 3 years. The reality is that I bought the camera new and have enjoyed every single moment with it during this time... I was NOT ripped off. I put on my big boy pants, bought the camera and went out and took photos. I knew exactly what I was doing and I did not open a thread complaing about how evil Canon marketing is.

Take some solace in the fact that after the 21st you won’t have to wallow in the shame of spending more than you think you should have. Have a Happy Mayan New year!!!

You are talking 3 YEARS on the 7d price drop. I'm talking 3 months and its 20% cheaper, and I waited 3-4 months after release to see if it would fall due to the comments I read. That's quite a bit of difference in such a short time span. A toons are louder than words and as I stated on won't be buying anything else until at least a year after initial launch. I'm a hobbyist, so "jobs" mean nothing to me as far as recouping that early adopter surcharge that many of you mention.

You have to look at rival companies also like Nikon. Somehow, Canon needs to keep up with them or else they lose some chunk of the market. If Nikon brings down their prices aggressively, look for Canon to bring down theirs also. That's the nature of business. It doesn't matter if it's 3 months or 1 month. All that matters is that their price is at least competitive in the market.
 
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I knew I wanted the 5D MK III right after I read the specs, after the announcement. I also knew that there would be updates and bug fixes within a few months, I also knew that seasonal (Christmas, black Friday) sales would drive prices down for a short run...

I own an amazing 7D, still worth every penny I paid for it 2.5 years ago, to me anyway. I knew I wasn't going to pay $3400 for the 5D3 that I wanted so bad. Put on my big boy pants and decided to wait it out... Did I miss out? not really, most bugs are fixed, my 7D is still an amazing tool in my hands, still made money with my 7D to help pay for my 5D3 and waited till this week to grab one for $2600... I'm happy with what I paid and have no doubt I'll continue to be happy with that, several years from now when it's selling for another $600 less...

Everyone knows the drill. Just wait it out if it's too much now. If you don't know the drill, you will learn after you buy the first time as an early adopter. It was obviously worth it to you when you made the intial purchase, go enjoy your gear and hobby and fahgetaboutit... 8) Just make a choice not to be an early adopter anymore...
 
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I for one wish to heartily thank the OP. The pros almost HAVE to buy the latest and greatest to remain competitive. No matter how skilled you are, sometimes you simply need a better tool. I'm certain Canon's marketing folks price accordingly. Then there are folks like the OP, who want to rush out and get the latest and greatest for whatever reason and also serve to some extent as beta testers. I'm sure Canon's marketing folks track these numbers and then toss them in the blender with seasonal sales targets and determine price reductions. Thanks to the selfless sacrifice of people like the OP, those of us with greater patience can take advantage of these lower prices. ::)
 
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verysimplejason said:
That's why it is always prudent to wait.

Prudent...if your main goal is to get new gear at the lowest possible price, because the cost is a limiting factor. That's not true for everyone, though.

nonac said:
I'm a hobbyist, so "jobs" mean nothing to me as far as recouping that early adopter surcharge that many of you mention.

I'm a hobbyist, too, which means I don't have to track P&L or claim depreciation on my tax returns... Since I can afford (and pay cash for) the gear I buy, a price drop after I buy doesn't particularly bother me.
 
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One other thing. I couldn't imagine shooting this last 2.5 years with my old XSi instead of my over priced 7D. The images and fun I've had shooting my 7D over those last couple of years has been worth every penny I spent and I couldn't care how much they sell for now, it was worth every penny...

Not only that, my 7D paid for itself and paid for my 5D3 in the time I've had it... If my first 7D wasn't still such a fantastic camera I go out and buy another one now at these new low prices just to have one for a back up...

Of course the 7D2 being on the horizon, I suppose I can wait it out... check out the specs anyway! Then wait a year to purchase... 6 months after announcement and 6 more months after initial release... So it's a possible purchase maybe around spring of 2014... not being an early adopter... but who knows what else they will come out with by then!

Don't look back!
 
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neuroanatomist said:
verysimplejason said:
That's why it is always prudent to wait.

Prudent...if your main goal is to get new gear at the lowest possible price, because the cost is a limiting factor. That's not true for everyone, though.

In that case, Prudence Pays...

nonac said:
I'm a hobbyist, so "jobs" mean nothing to me as far as recouping that early adopter surcharge that many of you mention.

I'm a hobbyist, too, which means I don't have to track P&L or claim depreciation on my tax returns... Since I can afford (and pay cash for) the gear I buy, a price drop after I buy doesn't particularly bother me.

In that case, Prudence is Perfunctory...
 
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If you can afford all that gear, you can afford to get ripped off :)

Also your analogy is incomplete because you don't compare the release dates of the Canon v. Nikon products. As you know, the drop-off occurs most drastically after the first few months. Were the Canon products and Nikon products at the exact same stage in their lifecycles?
 
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Freelancer said:
darkhound said:
Also your analogy is incomplete because you don't compare the release dates of the Canon v. Nikon products. As you know, the drop-off occurs most drastically after the first few months. Were the Canon products and Nikon products at the exact same stage in their lifecycles?

who cares?
if i have two equal products today .... i don´t care if one was released earlyer.

i care about what i have to pay.

Well that being said, then it would seem to "pay" to care about release dates... Just saying.. ???
 
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Canon-F1 said:
sparda79 said:
Canon-F1 said:
nikons D600 is a a bargain compared to 6D from the start.

500 euro difference... that is more of a concerne for me then price cuts.

today... 1500 euro for the D600 and 2000 euro for the 6D.

In my country... they are the same price... well actually the 6D is slightly, but negligibly cheaper... both around 1500 when converted to euro..

you don´t live in europe i guess?

Nope. I'm in Malaysia.
I bought my 5D3 early April, and it was cheaper than the D800 at the time here.
 
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