Canon EF 11-24mm f/4L USM

First chance to use the 11-24 at Lake Louise in Banff National Park the other day. It was fun but I'm not sure about the results - just keep trying different views and doing my best to evaluate if they work.

Jack
 

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One more from Banff. Seems like every shot with this at 11 is a shot in the dark. I enjoy it a lot but don't have confidence I'm making decent photos. Always happy receiving constructive criticism. Unfortunately, it's dicey being critical because sometimes members react pretty defensively; I don't operate in that mode so feel free.

Jack
 

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Jack Douglas said:
First chance to use the 11-24 at Lake Louise in Banff National Park the other day. It was fun but I'm not sure about the results - just keep trying different views and doing my best to evaluate if they work.

Jack

Hi Jack,

I like the third shot the most in this series. Probably because the light changed and the composition did as well.

One thing is for certain, unless there is immediate foreground interest, the images look fairly weak and turn into snapshots instead of a photograph. With a FOV this massive and everything being thrown back, to me there is a big risk of turning everything in the frame into utter irrelevance.

The image with the railway tracks have some really harsh shadows in the trees on the left. But then that's because of the sun at the angle that it is. Interesting to see you didn't generate any blob of flare in the image despite the sun being in the frame, but maybe there is. There are some little halos bang in the middle of the image.

On a more personal note, I'm also enjoying using the 11-24. It's a tough challenge to get good images at 11-14mm. I do get the WOAH! comments when I do use the lens but it's usually due to the unusual look of the image, not the image itself (not sure if this statement makes sense).

Ever since I've got the 11-24 my mind is bending towards the 5DS-R, principally for cropping the image. Some of the angles that can be generated are simply fantastic. So you can place the subject (person) roughly in the middle of the lower third of the image, suffer no WA distortion keeping the entire background above the subject while cropping. Not really sure I'm able to explain myself here but I'll try shooting something and post it here to explain.
 
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Hey Jack, as many noted framing and compositin is everything with UWA lenses. If you do not want images to look dull and uninteresting you need to place a subject very close to you and have it stand out from the background. The problem at 11mm and up to 14mm is that you need to be extremely close to the subject to get the most dramatic and interesting results. I had once a canon 14mm II which I sold because it was a really tricky lens to use, mainly because of my inability to get close enough to the subject. At 14mm you need to be really close and can't even imagine to work at 11mm.

As a matter of fact you can see that the image with the railway tracks is the one which, composition wise, works at best. Also those blue rocks down on the lakeshore would have been a nice subject to put against that majestic background.
 
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J.R. I really appreciate the thoughts you're offering and look forward to any samples you can post. It's not wise to delude oneself into thinking something is fine when it's mediocre. The public in general will like my snapshots of course but that doesn't do it for me, as you know. I want to get better.

There was more flare - I took some of it out. Just fooling around with DPP since I'm a beginner.

I agree with the cropping aspect you're suggesting but can't afford a 1DX II and 5DSR so my 6D will be my second camera when I pull the trigger, probably on the 1DX II for action.

Never the less the 11-24 is a fun lens that provides the extra width when it's really needed so no regrets.

Jack
 
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rambarra said:
Hey Jack, as many noted framing and compositin is everything with UWA lenses. If you do not want images to look dull and uninteresting you need to place a subject very close to you and have it stand out from the background. The problem at 11mm and up to 14mm is that you need to be extremely close to the subject to get the most dramatic and interesting results. I had once a canon 14mm II which I sold because it was a really tricky lens to use, mainly because of my inability to get close enough to the subject. At 14mm you need to be really close and can't even imagine to work at 11mm.

As a matter of fact you can see that the image with the railway tracks is the one which, composition wise, works at best. Also those blue rocks down on the lakeshore would have been a nice subject to put against that majestic background.

this is one possibility, but clearly not the only one...
 
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Jack of your three of lake Louise I like the latter two because the horizon pulls the eye to the center while the first moves the eye awkwardly to the right. I suppose you were thinking of cutting the first into thirds, it doesn't work for me tho. The widest lens I usually have access to is 14mm great for landscapes but I struggle with composition at times.

The image I'd really like to see is you wading deep into the water of the lake...
 
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Jack Douglas said:
First chance to use the 11-24 at Lake Louise in Banff National Park the other day. It was fun but I'm not sure about the results - just keep trying different views and doing my best to evaluate if they work.

Jack

Jack, beautiful pictures. The second and third ones are my favourite, and I wouldn't hesitate to print either of those off to hang on the wall. You've composed them really well.

The first one doesn't draw my eye in as much.

Honestly, the 11-24 is a hard lens to use. I love it though, and it's probably my favourite out of my collection now.

I took these yesterday of Hampton Court Palace.
 

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applecider said:
Jack of your three of lake Louise I like the latter two because the horizon pulls the eye to the center while the first moves the eye awkwardly to the right. I suppose you were thinking of cutting the first into thirds, it doesn't work for me tho. The widest lens I usually have access to is 14mm great for landscapes but I struggle with composition at times.

The image I'd really like to see is you wading deep into the water of the lake...

With clothes on I hope! To get the shot, not be the shot, of course. ;) You know how cold that water is!!

Actually I normally carry hip-waders in the motorhome but not this time and neither had I thought of the idea - fill me in on how you'd be thinking doing this.

I really appreciate the comments. I was driving home a few minutes ago explaining to my wife how uncompelling my shots are and why, thanks to the feedback here in this thread. My history is in snapshots not great landscapes. However, I'll keep trying.

Jack
 
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Another question/comment. I'm only using DPP so far and the lighting at Lake Louise was very challenging. I have the DPP highlight max down and the shadows max up. Even then I have those deep shadows and I might even have dropped the contrast one tick. Should I be on tripod and trying HDR? Or would that just look artificial?

Jack
 
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