Canon EOS 6D Mark II Talk [CR1]

DLD said:
I came over last year from Nikon. I'm disappointed in a few things.

Poor dynamic range, this has been covered, hopefully they improve it.
Poor focus system, not great in low light, a bit inconsistent compared (this is all in comparison to my Nikons)...
No metering on selected focus points, center only...

Everything else is really cool and any updates will be welcome...

What makes 6D cool if you don't mind?
 
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eninja said:
6D should be entry full frame so.i doubt it would have high megapixel. It would give a free taste to 5D and above as an analogy.

Why not high megapixel? On APS-C the latest Rebel also has the highest MP number, this doesn't seem a problem for Canon when selling far more expensive cameras like 7D2 (although one could argue that the MP difference is smaller on APS-C). Even with a 50 MP sensor Canon would make sure that the 'pro' buyers chose the 5DIV due to framerate, AF, ergonomics or some other 'essential' feature.

For me a 6D2 needs a tilt screen, a more capable AF system and a better sensor; it should also shed some weight and size to separate it from the other FF options. But as mentioned by others, I have a hard time imagining how it is going to compete with a camera like Nikon D750 that seems better in almost every way and is probably cheaper by the time the 6D2 comes to market.
 
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nhz said:
eninja said:
6D should be entry full frame so.i doubt it would have high megapixel. It would give a free taste to 5D and above as an analogy.

Why not high megapixel? On APS-C the latest Rebel also has the highest MP number, this doesn't seem a problem for Canon when selling far more expensive cameras like 7D2 (although one could argue that the MP difference is smaller on APS-C). Even with a 50 MP sensor Canon would make sure that the 'pro' buyers chose the 5DIV due to framerate, AF, ergonomics or some other 'essential' feature.

We don't consider 7D2 as camera with high MP. Beacuse 6D was intended for non professional but would like to have flagship image quality. For that type of user we don't want to give them trouble processing and storing, coz high MP file demands expensive equipment and take more time. Also we want entry shooter to learn preserve MP, not just shoot because my camera can crop and still look better. We want them to appreciate taking photo and not to trouble them as much as possible, we want them to appreciate view finder, that is why no swivel screen. Maybe that's the product spec of 6D
 
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eninja said:
nhz said:
eninja said:
6D should be entry full frame so.i doubt it would have high megapixel. It would give a free taste to 5D and above as an analogy.

Why not high megapixel? On APS-C the latest Rebel also has the highest MP number, this doesn't seem a problem for Canon when selling far more expensive cameras like 7D2 (although one could argue that the MP difference is smaller on APS-C). Even with a 50 MP sensor Canon would make sure that the 'pro' buyers chose the 5DIV due to framerate, AF, ergonomics or some other 'essential' feature.

We don't consider 7D2 as camera with high MP. Beacuse 6D was intended for non professional but would like to have flagship image quality. For that type of user we don't want to give them trouble processing and storing, coz high MP file demands expensive equipment and take more time. Also we want entry shooter to learn preserve MP, not just shoot because my camera can crop and still look better. We want them to appreciate taking photo and not to trouble them as much as possible, we want them to appreciate view finder, that is why no swivel screen. Maybe that's the product spec of 6D

And that's why I think I'll wait until 6DII has surfaced. As the 6D had a lower MP count compared to the 5DIII I could imagine that the case could be similar this time. Sharing my wife's G7x will do for this year and way into the next. Given the case, that they blow the next 5Ds MP beyond 24 MP that wait will be much easier. So, 6D could come in at 24 MP and get stellar IQ next to the new 1Ds workhorse.. Maybe it pays off quite well to do so as an amateur tog mostly doing low light and astro, and a few events/people.
 
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Since the 6D is my landscape/low light body illuminated buttons on the back of the camera would be a really nice feature. Even though I know roughly where the buttons are I still make mistakes when it starts to get dark and I can´t see the buttons. I´ll probably wait until the next 5D body is released to see the differences in DR between the upcoming 6D MII and new 5D camera(s). I really hope the 6D MII gets a boost in DR as there have been rumors about DR improvements in 1D X MII and 5D MIV. That way the 6D line would continue to be an affordable option for landscape photography.
 
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I wouldn't object to some of this. Android ? Don't know. An extra "C"mode, time lapse (up tot 3f/s), customizable filenames, why not ? And please keep the interchangeable focusing screens, or give us an old fashioned 80s screen. Ever seen the screen in a Praktica MTL5B ?
 
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SOD said:
:-*

I expect we will see a 6D Mk II with a new sensor outputting 40+ MP, mostly as an F-U to Nikon. It will be a slightly less robust version of the 51 MP sensor in the 5DS and 5DS R. Giving pros a reason to still prefer the 5DS over the 6D II, yet giving the 6D II more resolution than even the top-of-the-line D8100 from Nikon!

:o
I'd like to see the 6D-II at 32-40MP. i.e. something to target the D800/D800E in terms of image quality but in a less expensive lightweight body with full articulating screen. The 6D was not designed for sports so it didn't need high fps or the best AF system.
 
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I still think it is too early to get any real rumors about the 6D II. I hope I am wrong but I put the odds of a November release at 50/50. With a 25% chance it is announced alongside the 5D IV and a 25% chance it is released in 2017.

I am hoping for a co-release with 5DIV but half way expect a release in 2017.
 
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StudentOfLight said:
SOD said:
:-*

I expect we will see a 6D Mk II with a new sensor outputting 40+ MP, mostly as an F-U to Nikon. It will be a slightly less robust version of the 51 MP sensor in the 5DS and 5DS R. Giving pros a reason to still prefer the 5DS over the 6D II, yet giving the 6D II more resolution than even the top-of-the-line D8100 from Nikon!

:o
I'd like to see the 6D-II at 32-40MP. i.e. something to target the D800/D800E in terms of image quality but in a less expensive lightweight body with full articulating screen. The 6D was not designed for sports so it didn't need high fps or the best AF system.

If they make the 6D2 lighter and add a tilt screen, none of the 'Pros' will buy it because it looks like a toy camera - even if it has the 5Ds sensor. Problem solved for Canon ;-)

I want a smaller / lighter FF body with tilt screen, better low ISO DR and more capable AF system. Don't need 5D3 level AF, framerate or build quality. Higher resolution like 40-50MP would be nice for cropping mode (to get the same reach / pixel density as with current APS-C bodies, hopefully with decent framerate) but for general use I'm fine with 20-24MP (assuming better per pixel quality).

However, if the 6D2 is delayed until late 2016 or 2017 it's more likely to be a watered-down version of the 5D4 ;-(
 
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Hi CR,
Since you are getting a bit more information about the 5D Mk IV... I wonder if there is any new information on the 6D Mk II?
The 6D came out about a half year after the 5D Mk III. Should we expect the same to happen in the future? Any sources releasing hints yet?
thanks.

One thing I like about the 5D Mk IV is that by next spring the price will come down a little for purchasing :)
 
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jeffa4444 said:
If the 5D MKIV is a September annoucement / release I could easily see the 6D MKII going into 2017 Qtr1.

+1. I won't stab at a date so much as state that Canon usually doesn't roll out FF rigs during the announcement/presale/sale/rollout period... unless there's an earthquake/tsunami involved.

A new FF rig get announced, it gains buzz/momentum, amasses pre-sales, first orders go out, reviews happen, etc. and then they think about talking up a new release. By any measure, the 6D2 is third in line behind the 1DX rollout (well underway) and the 5D4 rollout.

- A
 
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OrangeBjorn said:
j-nord said:
Define soon? About 1 year from now seems like a reasonable estimate.

Maybe. I just found it odd they mentioned they won't have it in stock anymore after their current batch is sold.
Hi Bjorn!

I cannot confirm this from German retailers. They all say "on stock" and seem to have lots of them.
But I agree this sounds a little bit odd.
 
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OrangeBjorn said:
Maximilian said:
Hi Bjorn!

I cannot confirm this from German retailers. They all say "on stock" and seem to have lots of them.
But I agree this sounds a little bit odd.

Thanks for the update! I was actually about to buy a 6D, but when I saw this I backed off a bit thinking the mk II was about to be announced.
Not quite sure what Canon is planing here. But with a 1DX2 just released, a 5D4 about to be announced somewhere between now and photokina in September I see no space for a 6D2 announcement before 2017. But don't blame me if Canon is thinking different. And don't forget the price at release will be much higher than what you pay now for the 6D (Body only < 1.400 € in Germany, add. shipping costs to EU).
 
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Maximilian said:
Not quite sure what Canon is planing here. But with a 1DX2 just released, a 5D4 about to be announced somewhere between now and photokina in September I see no space for a 6D2 announcement before 2017. But don't blame me if Canon is thinking different. And don't forget the price at release will be much higher than what you pay now for the 6D (Body only < 1.400 € in Germany, add. shipping costs to EU).

Well nobody can predict the future sadly. But your statement would make the most sense. I sold my 5D3 last week. It was total overkill for what I used it for. I shoot mostly landscapes and had always a feeling that the 6D fitted me more for what I do.
 
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