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Canon EOS 6D Specs Leaked?

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#64
EOBeav said:
The specs on this camera have been bugging me this morning, and I finally figured out why. It has nothing to do with a new camera coming out for with less-than-hoped-for specs on a budget FF. It's the implication that a camera body like this is going to called an xD.

Here's my point: For my way of thinking the single-digit Canon line implies a level of build quality and other features that come with a higher end camera. It's not for the average weekend shooter. It's for the serious photog who plans on pair it with some high quality glass to get the best IQ out there possible. The specs for this camera are clearly less than that.

So Canon, let's not call it a 6D. Let's give is a xxD or even an xxxD name. Nobody's going to care if you put out a FF camera that has one of those designations. But let's not dilute the xD line of fine cameras you already have just because it's a FF.
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+1: if the FPS/AF and other specs are worse than the 7D, make it a xxD.

But here's to greed. There is dumb greed and smart greed. Smart greed would sell this body and a near cost level and rake in the cash selling the rebel upgraders new "EF" lenses... You need to make people switch to an eco-system.

...and in the mean time... work on a new sensor . (not same sensor tech with added contrast AF circuitry)

Canon is a Bear... set in its ways. Hopefully new people can bring about good change.... the Change I see in Nikon these days.
 
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#65
st3mpy said:
Maybe I'm doing it wrong, but why does one need 60+ autofocus points? I keep my camera set to the center focus. Focus, frame. That's how I learned to operate a camera. Am I doing it wrong?
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No, you aren't doing anything wrong. That's what I did when I first moved from manual film camera to a DSLR 15+ years ago as well.

However, if you do AI Servo or if you use fast primes like 50/1.2L, more AF points are helpful. At f/1.2 or even f/1.4, even a slightest move can make your subject out of focus. That's why so many people are happy about 5D3 over 5D2, myself included.
 
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#67
st3mpy said:
Maybe I'm doing it wrong, but why does one need 60+ autofocus points? I keep my camera set to the center focus. Focus, frame. That's how I learned to operate a camera. Am I doing it wrong?
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Perhaps you are doing no wrong for your type of photography... but maybe you don't take a lot of portraits with a very fast prime? (85 f1.2, 135L, 50 f1.2 come to mind) You cannot use focus/recompose since the DoF is tiny so you need outer focus points to target the subject's eyes ... it is very important for those types of photographers.
 
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#68
Everyone has different needs and wants. Instead of more electronic gadgetry and sensor esoterics I would like Canon et al to move back to better build quality. What good are optically excellent lenses that are made from plastic and fall apart? Why would I want a body that is creaky and flimsy and too light? Why would I want a viewfinder/rangefinder compact without a viewfinder/rangefinder and a small sensor?
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P R I C E

99% of the commentators on CR complain about how expensive Canon has become for higher end DSLR roducts and accessories.... if you want better quality it comes at a higher cost.....

.....but Canon's marketing department knows (as well as their Chairman's statement in the 2011 Annual Reports & Accounts) that selling more volume to new (Asian) markets is where their bottom-line and PROFITS are.

Canon has moved from being a 'Margin' seller to a 'Volume' seller (just look at the chart of their Body/Lens sales figures over the last quarter of a century) and that means smaller, cheaper, more plastic, more gimmicks etc.
 
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#70
However looking at digicame-info.com with google translate it looks like the ISO range is really good, at least compared to the D600. If this is in fact a new sensor with great noise performance, that could make up for the disappointing AF system, and may keep it competitive with the D600. Although I don't like the the max shutter is rumored at 1/4000, and sync speed at 1/180...
 
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#71
Zlatko said:
K-amps said:
Looks fake... If this is true... Why the heck does Canon spend so much time figuring out ways to cripple their products instead of going and reworking their sensors... >:(
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That's like going to McDonald's to complain that their basic hamburger is a "crippled" version of their Big Mac. You won't get much sympathy (actually, none). If you want a Big Mac, you have to pay the extra $ that it costs.
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Thats a silly example... the 6D is not replacing the 1dx, it is replacing the 4 year old 5dii.

Ask the guys who bought 60D, and found out they no longer had AFMA. and this was a prosumer body not a rebel. The 50D had it but they crippled it in the 60D. Numerous other examples.
 
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#72
My take. Like many people already said it. It doesn't look like something from Canon for me. GPS and Wifi built-in? It doesn't look like a "Canon way". Well, maybe it's their new way. With the new president, they probably want to change the company direction. They already started with the hefty prices.

Even with GPS and Wifi, this doesn't look like a competition to D600 to me. If they come out like that, they better call it "Rebel" something because it looks like a camera that targets the same market of Rebel series. For me, even though I would like to have a smaller sized full frame DSLR as a backup to my 5D3, it would have to have an acceptable AF system and 11 AF points with one f/2.8 cross-type at the center is not acceptable to me. Canon should learn from 5D2 complaints that AF is one of the most important aspects that serious photographers are concerned about. 4-5 years ago, 5D2 AF might be acceptable at the time. But not in 2012!
 
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#73
If this is for real I see a Nikon D600 in my very near future. I'll keep my 7D for wildlife/birds and use the D600 for landscape/portrait. I only have two EF lenses so not a big deal to switch camps. I think I am a fairly typical hobbyist-on-a-budget who entered photography with a crop and am now looking to up my IQ with FF so I have to wonder how many others like me, who aren't deeply invested in glass, will become Nikonites. I really, really hope this is a fake rumor. :o
 
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#74
I call BS on this one, at least that it will be the entry FF. If sensor was APS-C, I would believe this as 70D.
If a FF, it makes no sense to equip it with a worse AF than 7D.
So either sensor size is fake, or AF system fake.

At least I sincerely hope so.
 
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#76
lola said:
DB said:
if you want better quality it comes at a higher cost.....
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No it does not! i.e. D800
Fanboys, irrationals and blinds may whine as much as they want, it's as simple as that!
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What are you smoking? My 7D cost 1000 euros, the D800 is nearly 3x that price where I live! That's a higher cost in everybody's language - the language of numbers
 
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#77
40D autofocus is good enough for me with only 9 points.
• 9-point TTL CMOS sensor
• Points cross-type for F5.6 or faster lens
• Center point additionally sensitive with lenses of F2.8 or faster

Do you think that the 6D autofocus with 11pt could be better or same as the 40D ?

If so the 6D as described today is ok for me.
 
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#79
Woody said:
These specs look so lame they are actually believable especially for an upcoming Canon camera. ;D ;D Canon is just so good in crippling their entry level cameras...

For me, this is CR2.5
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If this spec is true, then Canon achieves something extraordinary in crippling, nobody can beat them ;D ;D
 
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