Canon EOS 70D & EOS 7D Mark II Speculation [CR1]

[Canon Rumors]

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<strong>APS-C replacements soon?</strong>


The first of what will probably be many spec lists about the mentioned cameras. With the knowledge of an 18mp T4i, it stands to reason that Canon will retain the same megapixel count in the next xxD and xD APS-C cameras. Still no mention whether or not it’s an updated sensor. I would certainly hope it is.</p>
<p><strong>EOS 70D</strong></p>
<ul>
<li>Digic 5</li>
<li>18mp</li>
<li>100% viewfinder with grid lines like 7D</li>
<li>19 AF Points from 7D</li>
<li>Continuous AF in LiveView & Video Recording</li>
<li>September Announcement</li>
</ul>
<p><strong>7D Mark II</strong></p>
<ul>
<li>Dual Digic 5</li>
<li>100% viewfinder</li>
<li>61 Point AF from 5D Mark III</li>
<li>Announced after 70D</li>
</ul>
<p>This is a grain of salt spec list, though I do think anything announced for Photokina would be mostly finalized by now.</p>
<p><strong><span style="color: #ff0000;">c</span>r</strong></p>

 

[ruuneos]

So 70D would be just sensor and image processor upgrade?
And 7D Mark II would be almost fully new design?

If that's so, not going for upgrade.

 

[Loswr]

7D Mark II
• 61 Point AF from 5D Mark III

If true, Canon is getting positively Niokn-esque in letting this top AF system trickle down the lines.

 

[messus]

If true 7D2 could be an awesome BIF cam !!

 

[Woody]

If true, Canon is getting positively Niokn-esque in letting this top AF system trickle down the lines.

If true, then I hope Canon also get Niokn-esque in providing 14 stops of dynamic range at base ISO.

The newly announced Panasonic 12-35 mm (equiv to 24-70 FF) f/2.8 OIS lens (305 g, 58 mm filter thread) + Olympus OM-D look far more attractive to upgraders.

 

[Pat Z.]

Any ideas about when it would be announced? I'm looking to upgrade to a 7D and I would hate to buy one brand new right before its brother comes out.

 

[DB]

If 70D rumour is true then it is a higher spec body than current 7D, so will Canon discontinue the existing 7D model, not very likely imho, especially since they retained the 5DII, despite the introduction of the new 5D3.

Also putting the 1DX/5D3 AF system (61 point) into a 7D2 body + dual-Digic 5 processors would pitch this new body against the 1D4, I mean you're talking 10fps (maybe 12fps) with the added benefit of a little extra reach.

 

[RLPhoto]

the Current 7D will become the 70D and the 7DII will become the new top Crop camera. Id like to see an improved 18mp sensor with even better AF, and 10FPS! thatd be sweet.

Knowing canons pricing system, expect 2000$ and up.

 

[BXL]

<p><strong>EOS 70D</strong></p>
<ul>
<li>Digic 5</li>
<li>18mp</li>
<li>100% viewfinder with grid lines like 7D</li>
<li>19 AF Points from 7D</li>
<li>Continuous AF in LiveView & Video Recording</li>
<li>September Announcement</li>
</ul>

Sounds great. I planned to upgrade from my XSi to the 60D or 7D this autumn but the 70D is a temptation.

 

[AJ]

Those specs sound credible. And if so, the 70D looks a lot like the old 7D.

 

[moreorless]

If true, Canon is getting positively Niokn-esque in letting this top AF system trickle down the lines.

If true, then I hope Canon also get Niokn-esque in providing 14 stops of dynamic range at base ISO.

The newly announced Panasonic 12-35 mm (equiv to 24-70 FF) f/2.8 OIS lens (305 g, 58 mm filter thread) + Olympus OM-D look far more attractive to upgraders.

I'm guessing that this is a large part of why Canon seems to be filtering down AF far more, it emphasizes the advantges of DSLR's over mirrorless.

Sensor wise I'm not sure the 650D being 18 MP necessarily means the 70D and 7D mk2 will be aswell, could IMHO well be that the 650D keeps the old 7D sensor and the higher end cameras debut a new sensor(espeically if it gets the 60D's AF).

 

[Canon-F1]

sounds like i don´t have to waste money on fancy gear this year.

i will not upgrade my crop bodys as long as there is no new (better) sensor in terms of DR and noise.

well so i can spend more money on vacations.

 

[awinphoto]

So 70D would be just sensor and image processor upgrade?
And 7D Mark II would be almost fully new design?

If that's so, not going for upgrade.

70d would be getting the 100% VF, new AF system, same sensor (although one could hope they refined it to give better ISO, DR, etc), continuous AF, etc... a pretty decent upgrade... I just hope it returns to a mag alloy body. If so I may retire my 7d and pick this up as my backup body.

 

[DB]

the Current 7D will become the 70D and the 7DII will become the new top Crop camera. Id like to see an improved 18mp sensor with even better AF, and 10FPS! thatd be sweet.

Knowing canons pricing system, expect 2000$ and up.

But what about the current 7D? You're implying they discontinue it.

Those specs sound credible. And if so, the 70D looks a lot like the old 7D.

It doesn't just look like the 7D it is the 7D - they've just changed the name (inserted a 'zero' to make it xxD)

Why would Canon introduce so many new camera bodies with the same basic sensor? They'll just start to cannibalize their own product range, or have the 'marketing' people totally taken over (given that their R&D spend has dropped from 9.5% of sales in 2009 to 8.5% in 2011, plus the more recent lower figure according to their latest Annual Reports & Accounts, includes a growth in spend in 'Office' & 'Industrial' divisions, hence their 3rd division 'Consumer' which includes DSLRs must be really falling big time).

It is all 'form' over 'substance'.

 

[1982chris911]

70D sounds logical as a more or less rebodied 7D with flipscreen. However the AF of the 7D is already good enough for Bird in Flight and most sports - so the 7D mkII needs more than just a better AF and viewfinder upgrade. It needs better IQ and that is only possible with a new designed sensor ...

 

[Allex15]

I am interested in buying a 7d . I currently have a Finepix HS20 but I also shoot with my cousins 550D when possible. So, my question is: Should I wait for the 7D Mark II or just buy the 7D. I want to keep the body for like 3-4 years, so I belive the waiting will be rewarded(considering the amount of fetures from the 1DX)

 

[DzPhotography]

Again, not remotely interested unless improved high ISO performance...

 

[AJ]

70D sounds logical as a more or less rebodied 7D with flipscreen. However the AF of the 7D is already good enough for Bird in Flight and most sports - so the 7D mkII needs more than just a better AF and viewfinder upgrade. It needs better IQ and that is only possible with a new designed sensor ...

70D and 7D2 will probably also be set apart by fps and video features (dual digic5).

 

[awinphoto]

Even though it may be 18mp sensors doesn't mean that they have to be the SAME sensor... could have been improved, modified, etc to give better IQ... No one quite knows that yet... Heck the digic 5 alone could improve noise performance.

 

[facedodge]

I have a feeling the new 18MP will have one stop improvement ISO at Raw and 2-3 stops in Jpeg. Similar to the 5DII vs 5DIII, but probably a bit more noticeable of an upgrade. (Some claim only one/half stop upgrade of 5D sensor.)