Canon EOS 7D Mark II Rumors Surface [CR1]
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Really? How do the dual Digic 4 processors in the 7D contribute to focusing performance? Or is the secret that Canon is lying when they state, "The EOS 7D has a 19-point autofocus system, all of which are cross-type points, that includes a separate AF processor to help to provide fast, reliable and accurate autofocus for photographers in all shooting situations."FTb-n said:
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Hmmm, isn't that what I have been saying all along? Hard to believe that so many would think that the two lines would NOT have been joined. Just about everything that Canon has been doing over the past couple of years, (I.E. The downgrade of the 60D and the upgrade of the Rebel T4i...) has been leading up to this.
I see the mirrorless EOS taking the place of the XXXXD line.
...the Rebel will take the place of the XXD line (in a way)
...and the 7D2 will replace both the XXD line and XD line...
I bet Canon will push more FF sensor bodies over the crop sensors, it's a logical step forward, but what do I know?
Oh well, this IS just a rumor, right?
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"taking the place of" I can believe, as they have obviously bumped the rebel line up a bit with better AF (although someday I'd like to see custom white balance through K) but "blending", is not even suggested in the rumor. The 7D has its target audience like all the cameras in the lineup, but not by any means limited to what anyone can actually afford. Some people need crop bodies to decrease the distance between them and their subject without physically having to. Even if they can afford better. As for people who gripe about the flippy screens, grow up. It's nit picking, seriously. The sensor should be our biggest concern now, especially with the old 7D sensor digging it's own grave next to fossils at the mercy of Nikon's shovel. This is a Canon forum, we should be rooting for Canon to win with a new sensor in the next generation of bodies, not this petty flippy screen crap.
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Neuro, it took me a while to figure out your point of contention. I have always understood that "separate AF processor" to be the second Digic 4. This view was reinforced by the fact that the 1D-X has dual Digic 5+ processors plus "An all-new, 61-Point High-Density Reticular AF and 100,000-pixel RGB Metering Sensor that uses a dedicated DIGIC 4 Image Processor". With respect to the 7D, that dedicated AF processor is never named, so it seemed logical that it was the second Digic 4.
http://www.usa.canon.com/cusa/consumer/products/cameras/slr_cameras/eos_1d_x
But, I stand corrected. It does appear that the 7D has a third processor (in addition to the two Digic 4's) dedicated to auto-focus. (I now understand it has a fourth for A/D conversion.)
It's curious that the 1D-X uses two Digic 5+ and one Digic 4 to achieve it's phenomenal performance. It's also curious that the 5DIII has a single Digic 5+. I can't find documentation suggesting an additional processor in the 5DIII dedicated to focus. Given that the 5DIII doesn't offer the burst capability of the 7D and, according some users on this forum, the 5DIII also doesn't match the 7D for sports shooting*, it would seem that a single Digic 5+ won't be enough for the 7DII to top the 7D in IQ, burst mode, and focus tracking. Hence, my guess is that two processors will be needed. Maybe not dual Digic 5+, maybe a single Digic 5+ and the same, unnamed processor that the 7D uses for focusing. Or, maybe a Digic 5+ and a Digic 4 for focusing like with the 1D-X.
Hey, if Canon can improve on the 7D in all areas with a single powerhouse chip, then I'm wrong. But, I don't expect them to do so. My guess is that Canon will continue to dedicate a chip (maybe not a Digic) to focusing. Parallel processing is easier with multiple chips.
*I understand "sports shooting" to mean focus tracking, since this is often more valuable than burst mode. But, I concede, that "complaints" about the 5DIII for sports could be limited to its slower FPS.
http://www.usa.canon.com/cusa/consumer/products/cameras/slr_cameras/eos_1d_x
But, I stand corrected. It does appear that the 7D has a third processor (in addition to the two Digic 4's) dedicated to auto-focus. (I now understand it has a fourth for A/D conversion.)
It's curious that the 1D-X uses two Digic 5+ and one Digic 4 to achieve it's phenomenal performance. It's also curious that the 5DIII has a single Digic 5+. I can't find documentation suggesting an additional processor in the 5DIII dedicated to focus. Given that the 5DIII doesn't offer the burst capability of the 7D and, according some users on this forum, the 5DIII also doesn't match the 7D for sports shooting*, it would seem that a single Digic 5+ won't be enough for the 7DII to top the 7D in IQ, burst mode, and focus tracking. Hence, my guess is that two processors will be needed. Maybe not dual Digic 5+, maybe a single Digic 5+ and the same, unnamed processor that the 7D uses for focusing. Or, maybe a Digic 5+ and a Digic 4 for focusing like with the 1D-X.
Hey, if Canon can improve on the 7D in all areas with a single powerhouse chip, then I'm wrong. But, I don't expect them to do so. My guess is that Canon will continue to dedicate a chip (maybe not a Digic) to focusing. Parallel processing is easier with multiple chips.
*I understand "sports shooting" to mean focus tracking, since this is often more valuable than burst mode. But, I concede, that "complaints" about the 5DIII for sports could be limited to its slower FPS.
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distant.star said:
For now, the rumors states a merge between 60D and 7D -> 7D MK II. And, it well may be $2K or over $2K
But Canon may release in a later stadium a 9D positioned below the 7D MKII (and above the xxxD). We had a surprise with 6D as well filling a gap
It looks like Canon is doing a shuffle on their Camera-line namingconvention/models
I just hope the 7D MK II will be a real improvement over the 7D. I like to stick to it next to my 5D MK III
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maxxevv said:
Well, Canon could surprise us. Merge 60D and 7D to a 7D MKII APS-H
And, later release a 9D as top of the APS-C (but in now way competition to the 7D MKII)
Looks to me that with rumors, anything is possible.
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FTb-n said:
AFAIK, the two Digic 4 processors were necessary to convert 18MP data @ 8fps. However, if you consider the fact that the 1DsIII needed 2 Digic IIIs for 21.1MP @ 5fps but the 5DMIII needs only 1 Digic 5+ for 22.3MP @ 6 fps that shows how a more advanced processor may eschew the need for 2 chips.
Since both the MP count and fps of the potential 7DII is up in the air, it is impossible to predict if one 5+ will be sufficient or not, and then again there might well be a Digic 6 by that time.
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candyman said:
APS-H is dead let it go
If anything they will release the 7D2 and a slightly modified (weaker) version with a flip out screen and call it the 70D both with ASP-C sensors.
I cant see an 8D, 9D, 4D or 3D coming out any time soon. But a 2D maybe (Double the MP? , probably not though) and the 1D-S like rumoured.
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KT said:
7D customers are willing to trade ISO for MP & FPS, but customers who buy Rebels get the same ISO performance, lower FPS, and aren't as impressed by MP anymore.
Canon may, of course, make another sensor for the rebels. I guess it makes economic sense to manufacture less types of sensors, and put older sensors in bottom line cameras until it's replaced, but I also think Canon should start investing in sensors that have better DR, color reproduction, etc, rather than more MP.
I'm sure customers who bought 1100D print >A4 a lot, crop like crazy to squeeze the most of their super telephotos, and are holding their breath for that 18MP sensor to trickle down into the xxxxD series. NOT.
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sagittariansrock said:
Buy a 5D3 then.
I don't understand why a lot of people here think Canon owes us to sell a body that has all these wonderful features and would cost us peanuts.
I can't begin to imagine if people like these were running Canon's product development and marketing, Canon would only be selling 2 DSLR bodies - 1 costing ~$5k, the other ~$1.8k. These will have killer features nobody else can match for the price and sell like pancakes for a year. After which Canon goes bankrupt.
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Every year Canon launches a new Rebel body, so 2013 we can expect a 700D. Could Canon conceivably launch a 70D + a 700D at the same time or even in the same year? Maybe they could, but I sincerely doubt it. It would be like BMW launching a new 5-series as well as a new model the 50-series in the same year! Even the marketers are not that dumb
edit: it would be like Coca-Cola changing Coke Zero, and then launching Coke Hero (a new product) around the same time
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DB said:Every year Canon launches a new Rebel body, so 2013 we can expect a 700D. Could Canon conceivably launch a 70D + a 700D at the same time or even in the same year? Maybe they could, but I sincerely doubt it. It would be like BMW launching a new 5-series as well as a new model the 50-series in the same year! Even the marketers are not that dumb
edit: it would be like Coca-Cola changing Coke Zero, and then launching Coke Hero (a new product) around the same time
You seem to disagree with yourself.
If Canon launches new Rebel every year
AND
sometimes (but not every year) Canon launches a higher level body
THEN
in the year when the higher body is launched there is also launched a new Rebel
SO
it's in contradiction to your doubt
THAT
they shouldn't be launched in the same year
SO
not Rebel every year
OR
no higher level body at all
OR
there must be some years (higher body launches), when they are launched in the same year
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I say bring on dual SD slots, sure top speed may not be "as Fast" but I can but 100 gig worth of cars for half the price of 1 64 gig CF.... and they take up less space, which mean Canon can use that space for processors or what ever they heck they want to make the camera lighter or what ever..
Hearing people complaining about lack of CF is almost as bad as people complaining that the ancient 30pin connect went bye bye on the Iphone.
Hearing people complaining about lack of CF is almost as bad as people complaining that the ancient 30pin connect went bye bye on the Iphone.
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sagittariansrock said:
It's not going to get the same or better AF than the 5DMIII, that AF system is reserved for the 5D line and the 1DX (1DX has AF features the 5D MIII doesn't). The AF is what is separating the segments and Canon isn't going to shoot themselves in the foot by putting that AF in the 7D MII. The 6D entry full frame is only getting 11 AF pts, I could see the 7D MII getting more than that because the 7D MII will be marketed for its action shooting where the 6D is marketed for full frame... no way it's getting the 61 AF pts though.
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