Canon EOS 7D Mark II Specs? [CR1]

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<strong>The 7D Mark II a go?


</strong>Below is a purported spec list for an upcoming EOS 7D Mark II.</p>
<p><strong>Specifications

</strong></p>
<ul>
<li>24MP – an all new sensor with phase AF on chip and noticeably lower noise than the current 18MP.</li>
<li>1Dx/5D3 based AF system.</li>
<li>10 FPS.</li>
<li>ISO 100-25600.</li>
<li>High speed video, with still capture.</li>
<li>Improved durability and sealing.</li>
<li>Available this year.</li>
</ul>
<p>I tend to agree with the source, I am not convinced such a camera is on the horizon. We’ve heard for a while that the 70D would move up a level and the 7D would be left alone. With the recent major firmware update for the 7D, replacing the camera directly this soon seems like a stretch.</p>
<p><strong>Source: [<a href="http://www.northlight-images.co.uk/cameras/Canon_7dmk2.html" target="_blank">NL</a>]</strong></p>
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[Loswr]

Sounds good to me... I'll believe the "noticeably lower noise than the current 18MP," when I see the RAW files, and not a moment sooner. :

 

[bvukich]

The specs sound fairly plausible, but if there was a MKII in the pipe I don't think we would have gotten that firmware update that added features. I'd put my money on Sept 2013, if ever.

 

[bonedaddy.p7]

I love those specs; I'd jump to buy one immediately if it's under 2100 for the body. Sadly I have to agree that 1: we may not see a 7DII this year (though I am still holding out) and 2: those specs seem a little wish-list like for under $2k

 

[AprilForever]

The fabled 7D mk II!!!!

It will come soon, to be sure! Likely, we will see it spring 2013, I feel...

But not actually get our paws on it until winter 2013 or spring 2014...

 

[gmrza]

I tend to agree with the source, I am not convinced such a camera is on the horizon. We’ve heard for a while that the 70D would move up a level and the 7D would be left alone. With the recent major firmware update for the 7D, replacing the camera directly this soon seems like a stretch.

If the specs are correct, maybe it is the 70D not a "7DII".

 

[unfocused]

24 mp seems a bit high, given that the 5DIII and 1DX both have fewer. But, that may be wishful thinking on my part. I'd be excited with 18 mp and clean ISO up to 1600-3200.

I suppose since Nikon is now marketing an entry-level camera with 24 mp, Canon may need to respond, but given the test results of the Nikon, it doesn't appear that the extra megapixels are worth the higher noise.

I never bought the idea that the 70D would replace the 7D, although I agree it seems unlikely we'll see a 7DII before the end of the year (Unless, of course, Nikon releases its D300 replacement soon.)

Anyway, other than the mp count, I'd could get excited about this.

 

[kaihp]

I think it makes very good sense for Canon to differentiate between the x0D and the 7D lines by using the AF system and fps points.
The x0D series could be limited to 9-ish AF points and around 6 fps, and the 7D line would get an 1DX/5D3-like AF system (minus what cannot be inside the APS-C mirrorbox), so these spect sound very plausible to me.

More Mega pickles is ho-hum for me, but improved IQ/DR/ISO is certainly welcome.

My only trouble is that I've kinda fallen in love with the idea of purchasing a 5D3, so dangling a 7D2 in front of my nose is just unfair

Edit: I'm not surprised about the timing of the rumour - we're entering the final month before PhotoKina.

Decisions, decisions, decisions, what shall I buy?

 

[bdunbar79]

If they do have a 7D Mark II or a 70D, neither are going to be better than a 5D Mark III. They need a camera that will fit between the 1D X and the 5D Mark III, like where the 1D Mark IV is right now, for that to happen. But keeping on topic, suppose it were a 24mp sensor (which it won't be) but suppose it is a 24mp APS-C, it'll still be noiser than hell above ISO 3200, where it won't compete with a 5D3, rendering the extra resolution at high ISO's useless. Will it be a good camera? Sure! But I'm thinking it'll just fit between the current 7D and the 5D Mark III. I'd rather speculate on a camera that fits between the 5D3 and 1DX

 

[Portrait_Moments_Photogra]

7D which is cheaper than the 5D series .... and with BETTER FEATURES???? NO WAY!

 

[Lee Jay]

If Canon could actually pull this off, I might crack open my wallet for this and a 5DIII if they both include flexible video crop modes! I can't even believe they've removed that feature from the T4i. It should have been gradually improved and included on all Canon cameras.

If they can't do that, I'll probably just keep my current cameras. I've skipped 5 generations on one of them and 2 on the other so I don't mind. They're going to have to cough up the goods if they want my money.

 

[preppyak]

Well, the one thing that is consistent between all these different spec lists is that it will be 10fps and a focus system that is a variation of the 61pt system from the 5dIII/1DX. Nothing else has been consistent. The sensor is either gonna be full frame, APS-H, 18mp APS-C, or 24MP APS-C w/ phase AF. Or it might not exist at all and the 70D will take its place.

When I see a CR2, or several posts in a row with matching specs (the last 4-5 have had nothing in common) then I'll believe a 7DII might get put in the "announce and don't deliver for a year queue" that Canon has set up

 

[Marine03]

I've been waiting to hear 6D specs, thinking that I need full frame when upgrading from my 450D, however if there is such thing as a GOOD apc-s sensor, with 10FPS even though I rarely shoot that fast I would be super excited and torn for which product to buy if both were priced around 2K. I mean 4FPS full frame or 10 FPS APC-S with a good build quality I dunno.

 

[expatinasia]

•24MP – an all new sensor with phase AF on chip and noticeably lower noise than the current 18MP.
•1Dx/5D3 based AF system.
•10 FPS

It would be hilarious if it were true and the camera came out in the next six months.

Make it APS-C and wow......

If only.......

 

[EvillEmperor]

I wouldn't mind if it was 18 as long as it isn't the same one. I'm saving up for a 5d MK III, so I may drop for this instead. Would love an articulating screen and if it had STM compatibility.

 

[bdunbar79]

If Canon could actually pull this off, I might crack open my wallet for this and a 5DIII if they both include flexible video crop modes! I can't even believe they've removed that feature from the T4i. It should have been gradually improved and included on all Canon cameras.

If they can't do that, I'll probably just keep my current cameras. I've skipped 5 generations on one of them and 2 on the other so I don't mind. They're going to have to cough up the goods if they want my money.

How true this is. I'll tell ya what, had I bought a 1Ds Mark II back in 2005 brand new for $8k, I might very well still be shooting with that as my primary camera

 

[distant.star]

.
Nice fantasy.

It isn't the centerfold picture, but it's good enough to get the job done on a lonely night.

 

[anselwannab]

So it would have a higher res than the 1Dx and just 2fps less? That is the part I don't get. I think the 7D is due for replacement, and these maybe the specs, but if they are, I don't see it getting here till mid next year. 1DX supply is tight still, eh?

With sensors getting cleaner and cleaner and video becoming more important as a feature, I don't know why Canon hasn't brought back the pellicle mirrors- they even had one in EOS cameras before. Run a modern H sensor with a pellicle. Get your 10FPs easy, video thru the viewfinder. If I were Canon the 1DX would have had a pellicle mirror and 15 fps to augement a 30+MP camera.

But on this topic, if a 7D is about like a 1D mkIII I don't think it is much of a stretch that the 7Dmk II would be like a 1D MKIV. Considering that used MKIIIs are about the price of a new 7D and MkIVs are about $3000-$3500k, that would indicate to me that the 7DMkII ( which would be about $2500?) is a bit off in the future. Not that Canon uses that as a measure or metric, just that it seems like these things equilibrate in the market. As more people dump MKIVs for 1DXs and the price drops a bit, the 7DMKII will appear. Call is 'Spooky action at a distance".

I would expect that we get some kind of signalling at photokina.

 

[hmmm]

Maybe the new sensor will be on the 70D also...

I've been waiting to hear 6D specs, thinking that I need full frame when upgrading from my 450D, however if there is such thing as a GOOD apc-s sensor, with 10FPS even though I rarely shoot that fast I would be super excited and torn for which product to buy if both were priced around 2K. I mean 4FPS full frame or 10 FPS APC-S with a good build quality I dunno.

My thoughts exactly... I had thought to move up to FF, am even keeping an eye on the D600... but if the 7DmkII sensor is actually improved (this time) I will seriously consider staying with aps-c. The 10-22 is still a sweet lens, and the extra reach of 1.6x is handy.

What of the 70D? The rumor mill has been silent on the 70D lately. Perhaps the new 70D will feature this new sensor as well, but not, of course, the top of the line af.

How could the new sensor be improved? backlit? Something foveon-like? As I recall we've seen Canon patents along those lines. Intriguing.

If Photokina will see a 70D and a 7D mkII announcement with a new sensor that would pretty much explain why the 6D and high-MP announcement would be held off for a separate event in October. If, as rumored, the "6D" uses the old-technology sensor from the 5DmkIII announcing it separately would defuse some of the hand-wringing angst concentrated on the question 'How come the new budget ff does not get the new sensor technology???' Deferring the announcement would take some of the heat off the issue.

Judging by history (using the handy chart at NL), the 18mp debuted with the 7D in mid 2009, and it appeared on the rebel t2i before it showed up on the 60D several months later, in mid-2010. Personally, I think it makes more sense to release it on a 7D mkII first, then a 70D, then a digital rebel. Announcing both the 70D and 7DmkII at the same time with a new sensor doesn't seem out of the question to me, but it would be a break from precedent. Maybe we'll see the 70D in the spring, and the t5i at the end of the next summer to roll out the new sensor. But I'm hoping for a twin 7D - 70D rollout.

If this is the way it plays out, the choice will indeed be interesting: 7D mkII with new sensor tech -- maybe a new 70D with same sensor as well -- or FF at a breakthrough price...? Decisions, decisions... 8)

 

[EOBeav]

7D which is cheaper than the 5D series .... and with BETTER FEATURES???? NO WAY!

1.6 crop vs. full frame sensor
apples vs. oranges