Canon EOS R1 & impressions by professional sports photographer Jeff Cable

[Canon Rumors]

You may remember the name Jeff Cable. He had great coverage at the last Olympics using the EOS R3 and came away impressed, as most people are with the camera. He has been shooting with a preproduction version of the EOS R1 and has written his initial impressions of the camera He has some thoughts

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[EOS 4 Life]

The R3 is more than fast enough for American football.
Baseball and hockey will be the true test.
The R1 will be put to the test in Olympic sports like table tennis in the next few weeks anyway.

 

[Canon Rumors]

The R3 is more than fast enough for American football.
Baseball and hockey will be the true test.
The R1 will be put to the test in Olympic sports like table tennis in the next few weeks anyway.

I had deformed balls in e-shutter and lighting issues.

 

[Navism]

I read a news from nikkei.

https://zh.cn.nikkei.com/product/pdigital/56172-2024-07-18-10-26-52.html

They said R1 production is 3700 per month
and mirrorless camera market share 2023.
Canon is 41.2%, Sony is 32.1%.

 

[Canon Rumors]

I read a news from nikkei.

https://zh.cn.nikkei.com/product/pdigital/56172-2024-07-18-10-26-52.html

They said R1 production is 3700 per month
and mirrorless camera market share 2023.
Canon is 41.2%, Sony is 32.1%.View attachment 218305

I'll add the translated image... Thanks for sharing.

 

[jam05]

I have been following and messaging Jeff for quite some time now. Very interesting view points and shots from an experianced sports photographer for team USA. Follow his blog and you will see fotos of team USA that you may never see anywhere else. He will tell you which camera he's using and often how he got the shot. Good stuff

 

[jam05]

The R3 is more than fast enough for American football.
Baseball and hockey will be the true test.
The R1 will be put to the test in Olympic sports like table tennis in the next few weeks anyway.

The R3 has been used in ALL sports already. Actually the R5 too. If you go to the camera pits and down to the pitch before and after events you'll see them.

 

[Besisika]

The R3 is more than fast enough for American football.
Baseball and hockey will be the true test.
The R1 will be put to the test in Olympic sports like table tennis in the next few weeks anyway.

Agree, I use to shoot hockey game here in Canada twice a week, and hockey + volleyball are the true test. Unfortunately the puck is very small. Hopefully they can find a way to incorporate it. The thing I am curious the most is the pre-shot. In hockey, the game is so fast that quite often, the puck is already gone before you manage to press that shutter. Also, if the eye controlled auto-focus is mature, this might help, but I am afraid we are still a generation or two behind, before we can focus as fast our eye can see.

 

[jam05]

The R3 has been used in ALL sports already. Actually the R5 too. If you go to the camera pits and down to the pitch before and after events you'll see them. Heck, tennis matches, golf. Olympic sports, are sports no different than played anywhere else. Just on a grander stage and all at one place for a few weeks. But a test no different than any other time. Volleyball is pretty easy.. Spaced athletes with with a ball that is relatively slow in comparison to a baseball.

 

[jam05]

Agree, I use to shoot hockey game here in Canada twice a week, and hockey + volleyball are the true test. Unfortunately the puck is very small. Hopefully they can find a way to incorporate it. The thing I am curious the most is the pre-shot. In hockey, the game is so fast that quite often, the puck is already gone before you manage to press that shutter. Also, if the eye controlled auto-focus is mature, this might help, but I am afraid we are still a generation or two behind, before we can focus as fast our eye can see.

Actually hockey is very predictive. An experianced sports photographer knows the sports and anticipates movements. Its not as if they are suprised after shooting thousands of events. And with AI it's even easier now. At 40 fps, piece of cake. 3 - 4000 shots during a 2 hour event from prime unobstructed locations, one is bound to get one shot. They are not takiing fotos from paid spectator seating.

 

[bbasiaga]

I'll add the translated image... Thanks for sharing.

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Well, based on the reaction threads, in a month or so you'll have to switch all the names one spot counter clockwise.


Cable's stuff is good. Pretty balanced over the years. As generally happens, the people that USE the camera will see its value. The people that TALK about cameras on the forums will remain stuck in the spec sheets.

Brian

 

[koenkooi]

I had deformed balls in e-shutter [...]

I think the Americans want their balls non-round for their version of football!

Also: phrasing!

 

[john1970]

I always enjoy reading Jeff's post. I feel that he provides a very balanced perspective and legitimately points out the positives and areas of improvement for any piece of equipment that he uses.

 

[HarryFilm]

Actually hockey is very predictive. An experianced sports photographer knows the sports and anticipates movements. Its not as if they are suprised after shooting thousands of events. And with AI it's even easier now. At 40 fps, piece of cake. 3 - 4000 shots during a 2 hour event from prime unobstructed locations, one is bound to get one shot. They are not takiing fotos from paid spectator seating.

Bingo! You do enough photography (i.e. with me I have been using Analog Film since 1983 and Digital since 1993 for both Video and Stills!) you can ANTICIPATE the action of various players. I usually do Skiing, Snowboarding and Hockey so once you learn who is who and their sports play style after a while, it doesn't take much to figure out WHEN and WHERE to point your lens and take the photos.

Even my hobbyist FOH (Front of House) band imagery sees that I have learned the moves and sounds of the local singers and instrumentalists to such a point that I can now ANTICIPATE what they will do so that I can get some good photos even while doing FOH sound reinforcement functions during a set! It also helps to anticipate sound levels and tuning WHILE the band is doing a set for FOH purposes in addition to using that technique for photography. It's something YOU SHOULD LEARN how to do! Anticipate the movements and actions of the players to get a FEEL for the action so you can get the best shot!

For FOH sets, I use Colour Film Cameras (i.e. usually Kodak Portra 800 for low-light band imagery and Fuji Pro 400H film stock when pyrotechnics and strobes are part of the show!) NOT digital for taking photos WHILE I am doing an FOH sound reinforcement set. I usually shoot a 4-burst set of shots at a time and usually I get one or two good shots out that set and I usually end up taking four to six rolls per show. I'm so good at doing both, I can anticipate an entire riff or chorus for proper sound levels and parametric tuning via my presets to make it sound superb and STILL get four shots away on film!

Soooooooo, LEARN to anticipate what shots (or levels!) you need for video, audio and stills so that you get the BEST captures possible!

V

 

[Deleted member 387121]

Jeff also comments on the pre record feature Canon finally added to its lineup with the EOS R6 Mark II.

Actually, that first appeared on the R7, about six months before the R62 was announced.

 

[koenkooi]

Actually, that first appeared on the R7, about six months before the R62 was announced.

Not-Rudy told us that the R5II is the first R camera to have it!!!!

(I’ve used it on my R8 already)

 

[Loswr]

Not-Rudy told us that the R5II is the first R camera to have it!!!!

(I’ve used it on my R8 already)

Maybe the Canon mouthpiece meant with individual file output? I have not bothered trying pre-capture on the R8, knowing I'd have to wallow in the mud puddle that is DPP to extract individual images.

 

[koenkooi]

Maybe the Canon mouthpiece meant with individual file output? I have not bothered trying pre-capture on the R8, knowing I'd have to wallow in the mud puddle that is DPP to extract individual images.

No, he was talking about pre-record for movies and the 3-5s pre-record option.

 

[Loswr]

No, he was talking about pre-record for movies and the 3-5s pre-record option.

Got it. No relevance for me, then.

 

[Deleted member 387121]

No, he was talking about pre-record for movies and the 3-5s pre-record option.

If you read Jeff's actual blog, it's clear he's referring to the 0.5 sec still image pre-capture.