Yes, their editor also needs more intelligence, preferably real and not artificial.
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Canon EOS R1 & impressions by professional sports photographer Jeff Cable
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But will they, or Simon/OF, or any of the other '(mis)information sources' out there correct their glaring errors? I won't hold my breath.
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No, admitting mistakes or admitting that you’re wrong doesn’t generate as many clicks or views as presenting incorrect sensational headlines.
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That article mentions the A9III as flagship, but switches to the A1 after declaring 24MP as old and boring. You can’t have it both ways!
After having used the R5 and R7 I came to the conclusion that, for me, 24MP is the bare minimum, so any camera with more than that will be strongly preferred. But the price and form factor mean that the R1 is not for me, the resolution is way down the list of reasons for not ordering it
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24 MP is fine for my needs, I'm not opposed to having more but conversely I do not need more. The form factor of the R1 is my strong preference for an everyday camera, and price and resolution do not constitute reasons for me not ordering it.But the price and form factor mean that the R1 is not for me, the resolution is way down the list of reasons for not ordering it
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Canon may try to maximise their sales with the R1 and R5ii now without confusing/diluting their current market segmentation.
A future R1s combining the features of both would sell in the future with a higher price that the reviewers would say is overpriced but still may sell a 10th of the R1.
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This.
And it's becoming more and more niche, while others are expanding what their flagship cameras cover in terms of use scenarios.
And I'm thoroughly confused what's the catch here? What is Canon trying to prove? Wasn't that market segment already sufficiently covered by R3?
As I mentioned before, it seems to make much more sense if they released R3mk2 for sports / news, R52 for general / wedding / prosumer and R1 as something that will truly sit at the top of the anthill, with a crown on it's head. Something that will appeal to a wider audience and wider market.
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To be fair, "wide range of fields" covers everything above.
The 1DX was not for fight-end video production because that was what the 1DC was for.
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I check the official online dictionaries and the definition of the word has not changed.
Canon can call whatever they want a "flagship".
There is always a controversy with every Canon release.
This is by far the silliest.
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I have, in fact I've used just about every single series 1 body, and I don't see the issue with R3 replacing them. Especially the last few generations.
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Because I think R3 replaced previous series 1 cameras and because the competition is offering cameras that exactly fit that description, while Canon is offering more and more niche products.
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This is becoming very repetitive. Do you accept that the 5 series, including the current R5 II, have for a number of years and iterations been Canon's 'all rounder' category? If so, are you then offended only by the fact that Canon chooses to (continue) to treat the 1 series, with it's more specialised specs and audience, as its 'flagship'? Between the R1 and the R5 II, I'm really not sure what needs aren't being fulfilled.
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I personally would have liked something akin to the old 1Ds line.
1 series level build quality (including the matched fast card slots, biggest and brightest VF, integrated grip, weatherproofing), 1 series autofocus system, highest resolution sensor available. I am willing to give up shooting speed for this.
What does this look like in 2024? I guess it would be putting the R5II’s sensor in the R1 body. I recognize that the market for this is probably limited, but that would be my wishlist for an “R1s”.
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I think the R3 was a stepping stone. Canon said it wasn't good enough to be a "flagship"/1-series. But time has moved on and now they feel confident in naming a body R1. It's mostly just a name! I don't know why it matters so much to people. I get that there is desire in some quarters for a high res 1-series form factor body, but it's been about a decade and a half since the last one, so it can't be a high priority for them.
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I do.
The R3 body is not as rugged, the buffer is not as deep, it only has 1 CF Express slot, and it does not handle heat as well.
That being said, the R3 is more than good enough for a lot of people.
It just was not at the level of a 1 series.
Most people, including professional sports shooters do not require a 1 series.
There are a lot using R6 and R6 II cameras.
The R1 is everything that I expected a mirrorless 1 series to be.
It was the R3 that surprised me.
I thought Canon would go higher MP with that
No matter what the R1 turned out to be, people would have been complaining about what it isn't.
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Exactly my point. Had they used the exact sensor from R5mkII with these exact same specs and placed it in R1 body, while adding the R1 focusing system, that combo would've had much stronger claim to "flagship" title. I also think that would've actually expanded the potential market compared to what market R1 is actually covering with it's 24 mpix sensor.
1Ds was the last series 1 offer that I was happy with. Everything that came later was a disappointment. Which is why I don't buy series 1 bodies anymore and instead had to settle for 5D and now R5. And while I don't fault 5D (I've owned every single one) or the R5 (which I currently use), those bodies are nowhere near the level of series 1 body.
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