Canon EOS R5 Mark II Specifications

[EricN]

As an onlooker, it appears to be a matter of interpretation I don't believe any twisting was intended.

 

[scyrene]

I was attempting to explain it was not a question of "unusable" but progressive improvement.

But you surely know I know that. I was referring back to a post by someone claiming to be "really angry" and "sad" that the MP count will not (reportedly) increase by (their words) "a big jump" to 60MP. It's not a big jump, as I would hope you understand.

 

[Del Paso]

But you surely know I know that. I was referring back to a post by someone claiming to be "really angry" and "sad" that the MP count will not (reportedly) increase by (their words) "a big jump" to 60MP. It's not a big jump, as I would hope you understand.

It's mostly considered a "big jump" because Sony cameras have 60MP, Canons don't.
The real big jump is the quality attained by recent sensors, whether 24, 30, 47 or 60 MP.

 

[AlanF]

But you surely know I know that. I was referring back to a post by someone claiming to be "really angry" and "sad" that the MP count will not (reportedly) increase by (their words) "a big jump" to 60MP. It's not a big jump, as I would hope you understand.

We both agree, I am pretty sure, that it is both an extreme position to take to demand extra megapixels as being essential and wrong at the other end to say they make no practical difference at all. To each the number of pixels they find best for them.

 

[Marshallg]

It's mostly considered a "big jump" because Sony cameras have 60MP, Canons don't.
The real big jump is the quality attained by recent sensors, whether 24, 30, 47 or 60 MP.

But a 60mp sensor would be very undesirable for shooting video.

Look at these resolutions:
Sony 60mp: 9504 x 6336
Canon 45mp: 8192 x 5464
8K DCI: 8192 x 4320
4K DCI: 4096 x 2160

If we look at those horizontal resolutions, it's clear why there's a big problem with 60 mp. Using the Canon, I can shoot full width 8K and I can shoot full width 4K by simply pixel doubling. But with the Sony, the camera must either crop substantially (14% horizontal) or else scale very irregularly in both 4K and 8K modes.

You might think that it's no big deal to simply crop, but now the lens focal lengths will all be off. If you're a casual video shooter, this doesn't matter, but for serious work, it's not an acceptable solution. The R5 Mark II will likely be an outstanding 8K video camera, but if it were 60mp, it could not be.

Maybe you only shoot stills, but we are many generations into the era of "combination stills/video camera." The 60mp resolution of Sony is a huge disadvantage for video shooting. And, from my experience with the R5, I would not like to jump to 60mp for stills, either, because of the performance impact it would have on my workflow. It took me quite a long time to get my hardware and software working fast enough for 45mp, but admittedly, that's just me.

 

[koenkooi]

But a 60mp sensor would be very undesirable for shooting video.

Look at these resolutions:
Sony 60mp: 9504 x 6336
Canon 45mp: 8192 x 5464
8K DCI: 8192 x 4320
4K DCI: 4096 x 2160

If we look at those horizontal resolutions, it's clear why there's a big problem with 60 mp. Using the Canon, I can shoot full width 8K and I can shoot full width 4K by simply pixel doubling.[...]

'Thanks' to the Bayer mask, it's not a matter of simply doubling the pixels. But seeing how well the updated Digic X in my R8 can downsample 24MP to 4k60, I'm not fearing a 60MP sensor doing 8k video. I do wonder how Canon is going to implement RAW video in that case, maybe they'll allow 60MP video and the user needs to make that 8k in post.