Canon EOS Rebel T4i/650D Specs [CR2.5]

[preppyak]

No more manual focus on video???? I'm interested

Here's what you'll get

https://vimeo.com/23745431

Note that that is shot with probably f/11 or higher, so it doesn't even have much focus hunting to do. But, it still sounds awful and isn't that impressive. Take a shot with lower light and an aperture more like f/4, and its pretty unusable

https://vimeo.com/23943236

If Canon had solved those issues in some brilliant or ingenious way, they'd have put it in the 5dIII. That they are just leaving it to the T4i tells me all I need to know....it would have made pros angry since its not very good.

 

[preppyak]

Probably going to pick up a Rebel as a cheap video B-Cam to my soon-to-be Sony FS since I have too many canon lenses.

I just hope that the Rebel actually has true HD (not the soft up-res'd stuff). That and 1080p 60fps slow motion is all I ask for. But since the 5D3 doesn't have either of those, I'm not holding my breath.

Sounds like you want a hacked GH2. You'll get your resolution (comparable with your FS, etc), and you'll get 1080/60. Not to mention it will open up the ability to use FD lenses as well

edit: some examples, http://www.eoshd.com/content/6681/shootout-reveals-panasonic-gh2-resolution-at-canon-c300-level

 

[awinphoto]

BUT WHAT IS THE DR GOING TO BE? WHAT ABOUT THE NIKON (RUMORED) 24MP AND SONYS 24MP? CANON IS FALLING BEHIND, THE WORLD IS GOING TO STOP SPINNING?!?!?!?! lol

 

[dunkers]

This is exactly what I was hoping Canon would do.

I want them to keep the same the mp count at 18 whether it be the old sensor or the new one I don't really care. Pair that 18mp sensor with a Digic 5 to show off how much better the Digic 5 is compared to the 4.

I also wanted them to put the XXD AF system into the rebel bodies. If these rumors are true then they are going that route.

Hopefully that would also mean that they are restoring the XXD line back to its rightful place as a semi-pro body rather than a rebel on steroids. Put the 7D's AF system into the 70D. Basically merge the 7D and the 70D together into one body.


As for the 7D2, I'd rather they do away with that lineup entirely. Or make the 7D the new aps-H series to keep all the bird watchers and sports shooters who need that extra reach that the 1DX does not offer. A croppeed 1DX if you will. And put it at a price point that separates it enough from the 70D so buyers won't be kicking themselves if they buy one and not the other.

 

[gene_can_sing]

Probably going to pick up a Rebel as a cheap video B-Cam to my soon-to-be Sony FS since I have too many canon lenses.

I just hope that the Rebel actually has true HD (not the soft up-res'd stuff). That and 1080p 60fps slow motion is all I ask for. But since the 5D3 doesn't have either of those, I'm not holding my breath.

Sounds like you want a hacked GH2. You'll get your resolution (comparable with your FS, etc), and you'll get 1080/60. Not to mention it will open up the ability to use FD lenses as well

edit: some examples, http://www.eoshd.com/content/6681/shootout-reveals-panasonic-gh2-resolution-at-canon-c300-level

The GH2 would be cool, except I have too many Canon lenses. Plus, I'm not crazy about GH2 color and the 2x crop. Canon has much better Color science and aesthetic IMO, but that's entirely subjective.

 

[tomsop]

I am interested in the T4i since I will be upgrading from the Rebel xsi (no video). It sounds like the video AF feature is presumed to be lacking because if it worked so well why isn't it included in the $2000 more expensive Mark 5d3. Also Nikon's complement to the t4i has AF video but no one is raving on about it.

Is shooting video with manual AF a big headache? What about taking video of kids?

What happened to the rumors about wireless uploading of photos? The Nikon has a dongle you attach for wireless transfer.

If you were in the same upgrade path and the camera is just for family and personal use - would you go for the t4i or wait for something better coming out soon?

 

[Finalist]

If the t4i is announced in June, how long will it take for the body to become available in stores in the US?

(The reason of my question is: I am starting a long roadtrip at the 11th of June and badly need a new DSLR -- if Canon is so unbelievably slow to release its new models I am considering buying a Nikon instead)

 

[preppyak]

The GH2 would be cool, except I have too many Canon lenses. Plus, I'm not crazy about GH2 color and the 2x crop. Canon has much better Color science and aesthetic IMO, but that's entirely subjective.

Yeah, I hear you about the color. I shoot the stuff I can on my 60D, and when I need slow-motion or autofocus, I use my TM700. The color definitely isn't as nice (kind of blue/grey).

I kind of want one anyway though, because the resolution is so crazy good...I feel like I'd be willing to take my chances in post with cleaning up the color some just to get that resolution

 

[preppyak]

If the t4i is announced in June, how long will it take for the body to become available in stores in the US?

I'd doubt you would have one in your hands by June 11th, unless they announced it June 1st or sooner. With the rebel line, they are usually available within the month of its announcement (unlike say, the 1DX), but, Canon's production may be slow enough that that is not true this time. They might also have held off the announcement until they had enough stock to meet initial demand.

 

[Christian_Stella]

Finally! Now we can play Angry Birds on our camera. But no 1 megapixel camera on the back so I can take pictures of my face as I take pictures? I need to video conference with my client as I shoot their photos and I need them to see my cheek accidentally changing the ISO on the touchscreen as it happens, so that they know why the photos didn't come out.

 

[ruuneos]

WHY TOUCHSCREEN?! Bit harder hit to screen and you have to get new body just because touchscreen isn't working..

 

[Dylan777]

No more manual focus on video???? I'm interested

Here's what you'll get

https://vimeo.com/23745431

Note that that is shot with probably f/11 or higher, so it doesn't even have much focus hunting to do. But, it still sounds awful and isn't that impressive. Take a shot with lower light and an aperture more like f/4, and its pretty unusable

https://vimeo.com/23943236

If Canon had solved those issues in some brilliant or ingenious way, they'd have put it in the 5dIII. That they are just leaving it to the T4i tells me all I need to know....it would have made pros angry since its not very good.

Thanks for the links

 

[MK5GTI]

^ I am sure Canon is not going the same route with the D5100 continuous AF. if thats the case, they can do that in the T2i.

hopefully so sort of hybrid of CD/PDAF?

if they can do that, it will prove Sony translucent mirror tech all wrong.... we shell see......

 

[D_Rochat]

My nose didn't smear the screen nearly enough. Now I can finish the job with my fingers ;D To me, the all cross type 9 point is a big deal for the Rebel series and if I were to buy a Rebel again, I wouldn't even think twice about which one to get. Good on them for actually making it better.

 

[Irishpanther]

I hope they've improved the touch screen over my P&S I got this January. Otherwise, hopefully it'll stay as a feature on the Rebel line. I wouldn't worry so much about my face activating it, unless the proximity detector like my T1i is no longer a feature. But if it were to trickle up to the 7D2 forget it. I'd even prefer no articulating screen on the 7D2 because I'd lose all the left hand navigability. Buttons are more dependable in my experience. It'll be interesting to see how it's implemented.

 

[CanonCameraFan]

So better hope that the rumoured silent autofocus kit lens really is silent. The extra cross type focus points would be great but staying with my 550D and saving the money for glass, or a proper upgrade to a FF or much better crop body. My 550d with ML rocks. Why on earth would I want to part with it?

 

[crazyrunner33]

The biggest upgrade will be the Digic 5 which in turn enhances low light performance dramatically even with the same sensor. This is more than enough reason for me to ditch the T3i and 7D.

 

[gene_can_sing]

not crazy about the touch screen idea. Why would I want finger smudges while I'm trying just focus and exposure? Plus I use a Z-Finder so I would have to take it off inorder to use the touch screen.

Are you they going to have an option to disable it?

 

[dlleno]

The biggest upgrade will be the Digic 5 which in turn enhances low light performance dramatically even with the same sensor. This is more than enough reason for me to ditch the T3i and 7D.

Still the 18mp sensor is 3 yrs old. maybe 7D2 will get a new 18m AND dual digic 5

 

[crazyrunner33]

Still the 18mp sensor is 3 yrs old. maybe 7D2 will get a new 18m AND dual digic 5

That is very tempting to say the least, if I shot only photography then I would hop on that for sure! For video purposes I'll probably go to the 5D3 for magic lantern. With the 7D there weren't many if any people who could figure out the dual processor configuration, probably because it's the same technology as a 1D.