Canon medium format...

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AvTvM said:
Dylan777 said:
Hi guys, Just for fun ;)
Let's say tomorrow Canon releases medium format in DSLR and mirrorless, would you:
1. Jump on it and sell your current FF or crop gear
2. Add to your current FF or crop gear
Big questions: why? or Why not?

No. Canon should not mess around with MF, just go ahead and launch a kick-ass mirrorless FF system. I would sell my FF mirrorslapper camera, keep my EF L glass, use it with an adapter and buy some nice and small new native pancake primes in order to go small with a small FF MILC.

MF is really only needed for less than 1% of all photographic tasks. MF is a market segment with no lack of established players who are slugging it out. Nobody is waiting for additional players. Fuji will learn it the hard way, they will loose a ton of money on their GFX. And I bet, Leica has not and will never recoup the S2 system development cost and resources wasted on it.

It is really absurd, how ALL camera makers except Sony stubbornly refuse to make the product needed for the largest future market segment: mirrorless FF system. Instead they choose to make action cams in 2016 (stupid Nikon), new MF systems in 2016 (stupid Fuji, stupid Ricoh/Pentax), or only dwarf-sensor mirrorless (stupid Oly, stupid Fuji, stupid Canon, stupid Nikon). It will be a future business case in all business schools on "how an entire industry f*cked up".

I guess Sony is the genius company, making many FE lenses larger than Canons L lenses, ruining the potential weight and size advantages compared to DSLRs? Not to mention their 35 f1.4 with heavy weather sealing, but forgot the rubber gasket around the lens mount? Or the overheating issues? Or the occasional crashing that requires pulling the battery out, with following resetting of custom buttons etc? I could go on, if I had the time. Sony obviously knows best. Not!
 
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Nov 17, 2011
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AvTvM said:
Dylan777 said:
Hi guys, Just for fun ;)
Let's say tomorrow Canon releases medium format in DSLR and mirrorless, would you:
1. Jump on it and sell your current FF or crop gear
2. Add to your current FF or crop gear
Big questions: why? or Why not?

No. Canon should not mess around with MF, just go ahead and launch a kick-ass mirrorless FF system. I would sell my FF mirrorslapper camera, keep my EF L glass, use it with an adapter and buy some nice and small new native pancake primes in order to go small with a small FF MILC.

MF is really only needed for less than 1% of all photographic tasks. MF is a market segment with no lack of established players who are slugging it out. Nobody is waiting for additional players. Fuji will learn it the hard way, they will loose a ton of money on their GFX. And I bet, Leica has not and will never recoup the S2 system development cost and resources wasted on it.

It is really absurd, how ALL camera makers except Sony stubbornly refuse to make the product needed for the largest future market segment: mirrorless FF system. Instead they choose to make action cams in 2016 (stupid Nikon), new MF systems in 2016 (stupid Fuji, stupid Ricoh/Pentax), or only dwarf-sensor mirrorless (stupid Oly, stupid Fuji, stupid Canon, stupid Nikon). It will be a future business case in all business schools on "how an entire industry f*cked up".

Not Fuji, but very similar:
http://www.mirrorlessrumors.com/hasselblad-sold-x1d-cameras-10-days-expected-sell-year/

2cents: If Fuji can keep the body around $7-8K, I think they will be fine. We don't have to carry f1.4 prime all the time. However, not having one when needed is really "f*cked up"
 
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Mar 2, 2012
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AvTvM said:
It is really absurd, how ALL camera makers except Sony stubbornly refuse to make the product needed for the largest future market segment: mirrorless FF system.

You think the largest future market segment is for full frame cameras?

hendrik-sg said:
Other point is, for a portrait shooting no model at all will meet the (quality) requirements, at least before hours of work for a really good makeup artist. And even then the pics can be used to judge the work of the makeup artist :D. Maybe even on a porn site, you will not want to see this level of details.

Tell that to Petter Hegre. ;)
 
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Style of photography and subject matter to some degree dictate format, one size does not fit all. Many professional landscape photographers shoot DSLRs and plate cameras, some shoot medium format also (Joe Cornish uses all three).
Picking one over another is often subjective so qualifying medium format over FF 35mm is almost impossible. In video the shallower depth of field in large format sets tone & mood and focuses attention, likewise 2/3rds" can provide infinite depth of field and compensate for run & gun errors.

Most of us never print larger than A3 so the advantages of medium format are mitigated (as indeed are high MP cameras if not cropping), medium format however often slows the process down and composition improves as more thought is given.
 
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Dylan777 said:
AvTvM said:
Dylan777 said:
Hi guys, Just for fun ;)
Let's say tomorrow Canon releases medium format in DSLR and mirrorless, would you:
1. Jump on it and sell your current FF or crop gear
2. Add to your current FF or crop gear
Big questions: why? or Why not?

No. Canon should not mess around with MF, just go ahead and launch a kick-ass mirrorless FF system. I would sell my FF mirrorslapper camera, keep my EF L glass, use it with an adapter and buy some nice and small new native pancake primes in order to go small with a small FF MILC.

MF is really only needed for less than 1% of all photographic tasks. MF is a market segment with no lack of established players who are slugging it out. Nobody is waiting for additional players. Fuji will learn it the hard way, they will loose a ton of money on their GFX. And I bet, Leica has not and will never recoup the S2 system development cost and resources wasted on it.

It is really absurd, how ALL camera makers except Sony stubbornly refuse to make the product needed for the largest future market segment: mirrorless FF system. Instead they choose to make action cams in 2016 (stupid Nikon), new MF systems in 2016 (stupid Fuji, stupid Ricoh/Pentax), or only dwarf-sensor mirrorless (stupid Oly, stupid Fuji, stupid Canon, stupid Nikon). It will be a future business case in all business schools on "how an entire industry f*cked up".

Not Fuji, but very similar:
http://www.mirrorlessrumors.com/hasselblad-sold-x1d-cameras-10-days-expected-sell-year/

2cents: If Fuji can keep the body around $7-8K, I think they will be fine. We don't have to carry f1.4 prime all the time. However, not having one when needed is really "f*cked up"

and only 1 unboxing on youtube .Worst unboxing ever made .
 
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