Canon Officially Announces the EOS 6D Mark II

nightscape123 said:
I really hope that DPR is full of it and they didn't purposefully gimp the sensor. I'm hesitant to pre-order now. I guess i'll wait for more reviews at this point.

Yeah, I'm a little bummed to hear this too. I hope it's not true. I was hoping for image quality to be right on par with or better than the 5div. I guess I'll wait for more reviews to come out and then make a decision. I may end up just keeping my original 6d and waiting for what canon has to offer down the road.
 
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goldenhusky said:
scyrene said:
LOL. Amazing how all these new or fairly new CR accounts suddenly care about a feature that nobody had even mentioned in the preceding months - namely AF point spread ::)

They've upgraded almost every feature of this camera's predecessor, but clearly it's DOA according to these guys. There's not enough eye-roll emojis in the world.

Here comes the Canon Defence Forces on Forums.... How dare anyone possible can criticize Canon after all they are the imaging "leader" in the world.
The spread of AF points is adequate as it covers the rule of thirds nodes with cross-type points. This is a big step up from the original 6D, which offered a diamond layout, with only the center point being cross-type.
 
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correct, not all 5D IV AF points are cross type but, still, very usable when shooting portraits with large aperture primes. not as great for fast subject tracking and very low light - in my experience at least.
StudentOfLight said:
You failed to note that the outer points on the 5D-IV are not cross-type, so cross-type coverage is very similar. The 5D-IV does have a slight advantage in vertical spread for the central group of AF points.
 
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SecureGSM said:
correct, not all 5D IV AF points are cross type but, still, very usable when shooting portraits with large aperture primes. not as great for fast subject tracking and very low light - in my experience at least.
StudentOfLight said:
You failed to note that the outer points on the 5D-IV are not cross-type, so cross-type coverage is very similar. The 5D-IV does have a slight advantage in vertical spread for the central group of AF points.
When I shoot on 5-series I just turn off non-cross-type points because I want minimal frustration/disruption to my shooting experience.
 
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Read this on DPR which was posted by another member there:

"Just read an article about the 6DII on the Swedish site Fotosidan, there are a couple of things new to me in it. Canon explain that 4K would generate so much heat that it would require extra cooling , thus extra cost and size, and that’s why we don’t get 4K, and they don’t think the demand for 4K is big enough. "
 
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yes, that would be, l in my view, the correct technique for a fast moving subject tracking or very low light situation. I would also shoot a bit loose to adjust the framing in post. 5D IV series look increasingly my next camera body. Thank you, sir. updated overlay with rule of thirds in yellow, approx. again.

StudentOfLight said:
SecureGSM said:
correct, not all 5D IV AF points are cross type but, still, very usable when shooting portraits with large aperture primes. not as great for fast subject tracking and very low light - in my experience at least.
StudentOfLight said:
You failed to note that the outer points on the 5D-IV are not cross-type, so cross-type coverage is very similar. The 5D-IV does have a slight advantage in vertical spread for the central group of AF points.
When I shoot on 5-series I just turn off non-cross-type points because I want minimal frustration/disruption to my shooting experience.
 

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This one is actually tempting. Some things I like more than my 5d3, some less. Miss the flip screen from t4i days and would love dual pixel. Just can't justify the cost when I already have a 5d3 with excellent image quality as is. If it had a little more FPS, a better scroll wheel, and more AF points It would be a no brainer.
 
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SecureGSM said:
yes, it would be, l in my view, the correct technique for a fast moving target tracking or very low light shooting. I would also shoot a bit loose to adjust the framing in post. 5D IV series look increasingly my next camera body. Thank you, sir. updated overlay with rule of thirds in yellow, approx. again.

StudentOfLight said:
SecureGSM said:
correct, not all 5D IV AF points are cross type but, still, very usable when shooting portraits with large aperture primes. not as great for fast subject tracking and very low light - in my experience at least.
StudentOfLight said:
You failed to note that the outer points on the 5D-IV are not cross-type, so cross-type coverage is very similar. The 5D-IV does have a slight advantage in vertical spread for the central group of AF points.
When I shoot on 5-series I just turn off non-cross-type points because I want minimal frustration/disruption to my shooting experience.

Thank you for the overlays. This is def the most helpful post in this thread so far and should get its own topic so ppl know. The spread doesn't seem that bad with the grids overlayed now.
 
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Thank you for the kind words. No, it does not look that bad. it would be a reasonable comprimise for many photographers. I just feel that I am personaly better served with 5D IV body, that's all.
bereninga said:
Thank you for the overlays. This is def the most helpful post in this thread so far and should get its own topic so ppl know. The spread doesn't seem that bad with the grids overlayed now.
 
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I'd be interested in a size overlay between this new 6D and the 5D4.

As for the AF, I actually DID suspect that they would cluster the points near the center. Looks like in terms of cross-type coverage, the difference with the 5D Series is only slight. Good enough for travel use anyway. The flip screen could be a huge bonus in a large crowd of tourists anyhow...
 
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james75 said:
nightscape123 said:
I really hope that DPR is full of it and they didn't purposefully gimp the sensor. I'm hesitant to pre-order now. I guess i'll wait for more reviews at this point.

Yeah, I'm a little bummed to hear this too. I hope it's not true. I was hoping for image quality to be right on par with or better than the 5div. I guess I'll wait for more reviews to come out and then make a decision. I may end up just keeping my original 6d and waiting for what canon has to offer down the road.

Add me to the list of concerned potential buyers (I have a pre-order in with Adorama). The limited AF spread was expected (curious, how much bigger is the 5D MIV AF spread?), but if the sensor's DR is not at least on par with the 5DMIV, I may need to pass. I expected the 5D to have a resolution advantage but only for extreme cropping. If Canon decided to make the difference noticeable even for non-pixel peepers, that's a bridge too far.

I have the 80D, and my primary reason for considering the new 6D was to get a significant IQ improvement. If the 80D is as good--or nearly as good in IQ--what's the point of the FF version?

Hopefully there will be more information and testing soon so that I have time to cancel my order if needed.
 
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-pekr- said:
Sorry for slight off-topic, but what is Bluetooth used for? NFC? Because 5DIV does not have Bluetooth listed, but it has NFC too.

So - maybe, apart from tilty-flippy LCD, we found another advantage of 6DII to 5DIV - Bluetooth. At least on our 70D, the wi-fi is real resource hog draining the battery.

It's for a low powered always on wireless connection between the camera and smartphone/tablet that supports BT 4.0

I've never used BT on a camera like this. Sometimes when using Wifi and moving around a lot I have to break the connection, compose a shot through the VF then reconnect. I'm guessing BT would eliminate all that hassle and just stay on. Also means my phone screen isn't on all the time as I walk about.
 
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nightscape123 said:
Best preview i've seen so far:

http://www.imaging-resource.com/PRODS/canon-6d-mark-ii/canon-6d-mark-iiA.HTM

Claims the 6DII has the same weather sealing as the 5DIV

Also includes 100% crops at high ISO along with unedited full size jpgs.

I have for months now reading every single post on this camera and as a landscape / astro photog all I am very interested in increased weather sealing and increased DR.

Seems like a solid review of the Camera....Although I really will be amazed if the weather sealing really is as good as the 5D4 as I thought Canon indicated it was dust and 'drip' resistant. If the weather sealing has been improved along with increased DR and high ISO noise this camera will no doubt be a solid landscape photography camera one that I will be purchasing, however for now I'm going to wait for some more independent reviews.

Fingers crossed!

Noxi
 
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nightscape123 said:
I really hope that DPR is full of it and they didn't purposefully gimp the sensor. I'm hesitant to pre-order now. I guess i'll wait for more reviews at this point.

I saw that in DPR as well and it has given me pause. I shoot a lot of landscape; the absolutely most important ask from me for the 6D mkII was improved sensor performance in DR, and weakening or removing that nasty AA filter.

If the 6D mkII does not have the improved DR of the 5d MkIV and 80D but retains older sensor technology with less DR that would be a major disappointment. The samples so far seem unimpressive in DR and the fine detail looks strongly AA'd. Just samples from beta, yes -- I will wait and see, but my early impression is that this is a very useful upgrade in many respects but a disappointment where it matters most: the sensor.

I sure hope it proves out otherwise.
 
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Thanks to all the folks working out the AF point overlays!

Sure, the spread appears a bit disappointing, but that is pretty standard with full frame cameras. And the original 6D had a diamond pattern, this more rectangular pattern does allow to get more to the corner of the frame for an AF point. Not to mention the AF points being cross type make them much more useful then the 6D.

No, everything I see here shows a very nice step up in the AF department, especially in subject tracking and action shooting. The 6D2 will make an excellent "jack of all trades" camera.

I suspect the sensor will be about equivalent to the 5D4. I don't see Canon intentionally holding back sensor tech. I thought they once said they use the best sensor available.

I for one look forward to getting my hands on this camera and expect I'll make some great images with it.
 
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