Canon Rebel T4i [CR2]

[Canon Rumors]

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<strong>Canon Rebel T4i coming soon


</strong>I’m told the announcement for the Rebel T4i will happen very soon. There may have been multiple delays in announcing it while Canon deals with production of already announced products.</p>
<p>The megapixel count will not match the 24mp of the new Nikon D3200 I am told. It will have DIGIC V, new video features and a few ergonomic changes. Still waiting on the definitive specs.</p>
<p>From a different source, we’ve been told there may be a new autofocus technology when shooting video, as well as a touchscreen.</p>
<p><strong><span style="color: #ff0000;">c</span>r</strong></p>

 

[D_Rochat]

But will it play Angry Birds?

 

[akiskev]

If Canon have got something new in terms of autofocus technology then that could generate rather more interest.

I believe that if Canon DID have something new in AF (I'm talking about video), we would have seen it implemented on the G1X.

What I'd like to see in all new Canons is focus peaking in live view. Canon do you hear me? Just copy Sony!

 

[dr croubie]

Canon do you hear me? Just copy Sony!

*cough* patents *cough*

Maybe it's me, but I see a lot more people around the place with 550Ds than 600Ds, maybe it's because they bought earlier or maybe it's because they just didn't see the point in the extra cash for the flipscreen.

I'd be interested to see the sales figures between those two, because if the 650D has the same sensor as the other 4 already, then it's going to have to have *something* special to make sales (sorry, but just having "Digic 5" doesn't mean squat to most consumers who buy into this range, unless it makes vastly better IQ).

 

[D_Rochat]

Even better IQ isn't going to mean squat to 90% of the people buying Rebels, and I'm not slamming Rebel owners either. I'm talking about the new to photography Rebel consumers. The only thing in the (new) Rebel consumers photographic vocabulary is megapixels. The rest is jiberish for the first little while.

 

[pittguy578]

Maybe Canon will finally be adding AF to the Rebel series? Nikon did it with the D5100. Sure the AF likely won't be spectacular, but it will be there if requested. I am also guessing there will likely be some kind of social media sharing option or Wi Fi abilities.

 

[pittguy578]

Canon do you hear me? Just copy Sony!

*cough* patents *cough*

Maybe it's me, but I see a lot more people around the place with 550Ds than 600Ds, maybe it's because they bought earlier or maybe it's because they just didn't see the point in the extra cash for the flipscreen.

I'd be interested to see the sales figures between those two, because if the 650D has the same sensor as the other 4 already, then it's going to have to have *something* special to make sales (sorry, but just having "Digic 5" doesn't mean squat to most consumers who buy into this range, unless it makes vastly better IQ).

I am not sure if Canon would have put any "new" tech into the G1X that wasn't available in its DSLRs. The G1X is a niche camera, and most people are not buying it for video abilities..I would probably say video is far more important for DSLR sales nowadays and that is going to be the primary differentiation between cameras..Still image quality for any camera using an APS-C sensor is going to be nearly equivalent regardless of manufacturer, especially if you shoot raw.

 

[Astro]

more minor updates i guess?

oh wait more video stuff... great (that was sarcasm).


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[D_Rochat]

Yeah, photography related upgrades would be nice to see..... How about a new AF! No not video AF, but AF for actually taking pictures The current 9 point AF stinks with the exception of the center point. Keep the 9 point, but just fix the other 8! Then just add a few mp to keep the masses interested.

 

[gmrza]

Yeah, photography related upgrades would be nice to see..... How about a new AF! No not video AF, but AF for actually taking pictures The current 9 point AF stinks with the exception of the center point. Keep the 9 point, but just fix the other 8! Then just add a few mp to keep the masses interested.

I have to wonder whether the 7D's AF system will find its way into more of Canon's DSLRs. That would be a nice upgrade.

As far as IQ goes, the current 18MP sensor has its weaknesses, but it is good enough that if you can't produce good images with it, then photography is probably not your thing.

Realistically, if Canon were to improve the sensor, users would only really see a benefit with better glass. While the 18-55mm kit lens does not perform too badly, many of the other entry level lenses probably even struggle with an 18MP sensor.

I think we have reached a stage where improvements in sensors won't necessarily benefit everyone. On the other hand, improved specs are what marketing departments are looking for to sell cameras.

 

[facedodge]

Thank God Canon is about to release another camera. I was just noticing the size of the angry entitled consumerist mob depleting. What would I read on this forums if not for pixel peeping flame wars?

 

[D_Rochat]

As far as IQ goes, the current 18MP sensor has its weaknesses, but it is good enough that if you can't produce good images with it, then photography is probably not your thing.

You can't argue with that point.

Thank God Canon is about to release another camera. I was just noticing the size of the angry entitled consumerist mob depleting. What would I read on this forums if not for pixel peeping flame wars?

Oh you just wait! We have yet to hear if/when they will release a 7D mark II. It could be a storm that your children's children will talk about in years to come.

 

[Balthazar]

Hi all,

In France, the "650D for dummys" will be available in 2 weeks in all major shops in the country :

http://multimedia.fnac.com/multimedia/FR/images_produits/FR/Fnac.com/ZoomPE/4/7/1/9782754040174.jpg

 

[ctmike]

Of course, the current 18MP sensor isn't rubbish, but how many times is Canon going to milk that cow? How is Canon going to convince people to buy the T4i and not a D3200? I'm very curious to find out.

Oh, and can't forget the obligatory "Gimme new 70D and 7DII". For half the current model's prices.

 

[sleepnever]

I bought my T2i just before the T3i's came out, because it was my first DSLR and I didn't know about the T3i's. The only thing I wish mine had right now from the T3i is the articulating LCD screen. I would love to step up to FF, but can't really afford it. I'm interested in seeing the specs for the T4i... hopefully better ISO and noise performance and faster burst. That would make me happy.

 

[JasonATL]

I have the 550D and 600D, and recently acquired a 5D Mark III (though it really belongs to my wife for photos). I only shoot video and couldn't have justified getting the 5D3 on video alone. While the 5D3 has clearly superior video capabilities than the 600D, I still use my 600D (a lot). 600D has better ergonomics for me and, with Magic Lantern, better "features". I've even been able to cut the 5D3 with the 600D where even sometimes I can't tell which was used after the fact.

Improved video capabilities (note that I didn't say features) would interest me. Here's my wish list for the 650D/T4i:
1. No moire
2. Improved effective video resolution (not sensor MP) to be true 1920x1080.
3a. Clean HDMI out (won't happen, but a guy can dream), or
3b. A 4:2:2 codec (again, a guy can dream)
4. Improved low light/high ISO performance

Note that none of these is what I consider a "feature". To me, they are capabilities that result in better images, not just easier images. I'm not interested in video features. I have plenty of those with the 550D, 600D, and Magic Lantern (thanks Alex!). A video AF is next to useless for me, and I take a lot of "live" shots.

If the camera only offers any of 1-3, I am very likely to get it (actually, one 3 option alone would sell it for me). Eliminated moire isn't a must-have for me, as long as they leave the 3x zoom in it (which eliminates moire, albeit at crop, but not resolution, cost). If it has any 2, I almost surely will get it. I'm looking forward to the actual announcement.

By the way, I just don't understand why someone who is getting a DSLR for video use would get a 550D rather than a 600D/T3i. The flip screen and the 3x zoom that eliminates moire are well worth the premium. For stills, I don't see why anyone would get the 600D over the 550D. I think the fact that the 550D outsells the 600D says why people buy these cams.

 

[Silverstream]

By the way, I just don't understand why someone who is getting a DSLR for video use would get a 550D rather than a 600D/T3i. The flip screen and the 3x zoom that eliminates moire are well worth the premium. For stills, I don't see why anyone would get the 600D over the 550D. I think the fact that the 550D outsells the 600D says why people buy these cams.

I was surprised by the last line and went to amazon to see. http://www.amazon.com/Best-Sellers-Electronics-Digital-SLR-Cameras/zgbs/electronics/3017941/ref=zg_bs_nav_e_3_281052
I am planning on buying a t4i the instant it becomes available to order UNLESS it has the same sensor. Based on the number of sales at this general price and the current level of competition, it would seem (IMO) to me that it would be ludicrous for it not to be an improved sensor.

 

[Fandongo]

If Canon have got something new in terms of autofocus technology then that could generate rather more interest.

I believe that if Canon DID have something new in AF (I'm talking about video), we would have seen it implemented on the G1X.

What I'd like to see in all new Canons is focus peaking in live view. Canon do you hear me? Just copy Sony!

Download Magic Lantern.
Peaking, false color, all that crap =).
IF Canon found a way for the software to control the autofocus drive WITHOUT stutter (either thru a USB controller or built-in racking ability...like Magic Lantern), I might have to buy it.
Otherwise they can eat my A.

 

[Woody]

Let's return to basics: Canon needs to match Olympus E-M5 and Sony NEX-5N for base ISO dynamic range and continue to provide acceptable high ISO performance. I'm sure the Sony 24 MP APS-C sensor is not hard to beat in the high ISO department.

If Canon cannot even meet these basic requirements, we don't even have to bother with video performance etc etc

 

[stabmasterasron]

I am inclined to wait for the 70d, but could be tempted if:
-improve AF (not expecting 7D here, just better than the past rebels)
-at least 6fps (with at least 12 raw buffer)
-better high ISO performance

Other features would be nice (like focus peaking), but these are my essentials. Don't care if they develop a new sensor for t4i, although I don't know why they would use the same sensor as t3i. But high MP doesn't do anything for me, I would rather have better dynamic range and same MP. All of this is probably very unlikely as these features probably don't sell cameras at the rebel level - they will probably keep things about the same and throw in some more video features. Oh well - I hope they announce the 70D soon.