Canon W-E1 Wifi Adaptor Confirmed

[LoneRider]

If I were a betting man, if I were Canon I would license the eye-fi card, and then add firmware to the Camera for the remote control and other features.

For the volume, there is likely no reason for Canon to reinvent this wheel. Eye-Fi probably opened up there interface to allow for addition communication from a third party app (Canon remote control) to the host camera.

Speculation of course.

If so, cool win for Eye-Fi, and cool win for 7D-ii customers.

 

[rrcphoto]

"metal blocking WiFi" always was a 100% bullS___ excuse. Canon could abnd should have built fully working WiFi including remote control functionality, intervalometer and RAW-file transfer into all their cameras ... at least into generation since 5D3, 7D2. Just ridiculous.

They could have put an antenna around the bezel of back LCD in all these cameras, with the WiFi module itself modular -> small external WiFi-transponder similar in style but better in functionality than Nikon WiFi thingie WU-1A @ USD 59,95 ... http://www.nikonusa.com/en/nikon-products/product/wireless/wu-1a-wireless-mobile-adapter.html
It plugs into rarely used wired remote control jack, not blocking an SD-slot or flash hotshoe.

That way Canon could also have avoided the often quoted excuse of different WiFi legislation in different countries, bla bla bla!

As so often: STUPID Canon. :

except where you suggest it to be would be very unidirectional and not omni directional with a fixed LCD.. unless you expect and want your RF signals to punch through your sensor.

 

[unfocused]

Not sure what to think about this. The devil is in the details. It really needs to be a simple, plug and play solution. If it isn't as simple and intuitive as a smart phone, then it's a fail. That's the real competition for file sharing. Canon, Nikon and Sony have all failed miserably on connectivity.

 

[Marauder]

Very curious about this one! If the price and performance are reasonable, this will be a nice addition for my 7D II. It doesn't need a huge range and I wouldn't expect it to match the reach of the current wireless adapter, which is fully clear of the body. But if it can give a range similar to the Eye Fi, but allow remote access via the app similar to the way the 80D does, it will be a very cool item!

Cautiously optimistic.

 

[Chaitanya]

But since its Canon and not Fuji, I dont expect them to add new functionality in old cameras...

Right. Because they didn't add features to the 5DII (manual audio gain, etc.). They didn't add features to the 7D (a 66% increase in RAW buffer depth, Auto ISO limits, etc.). They didn't add features to the 5DIII (uncompressed HDMI out, f/8 AF, etc.). They didn't add features to the 1D X (f/8 AF, EC in M mode). So if you wouldn't expect Canon to add new functionality in old cameras, it's because either your memory or your knowledge of facts – or both – is badly flawed.

What a bunch of vinegary ingrates, just going by the tone of the geniuses who bash and second guess.

Sorry, just woke up, saw a nice feature soon to be available at a cheaper price, and a bunch of really sour posts following. Give me some coffee.

Just don't let anyone piss in your Wheaties. It seems to have happened to some here, and it didn't end well.

But then Canon didnt add backward compatibility for ST-E3-RT to 7D. According to their own classification of cameras after 2012 to be fully compatible with RT system, (if I remember correctly) EOS 1200D isn't even fully compatible with RT system. Also GP-E2 not fully backwards compatible with older cameras. Also didnt Magic Lantern already unlock all the video features for 5D mk II/III users long before Canon decided to "upgrade" gimped firmwares.
Edit: I still dont understand why the ****** is Canon not giving Eos XXD users Dual SD card slots, during my recent trip in Himalayas thanks to a SD card failure I lost a days worth of pics consisting of some dozen or so rare butterflies and orchids. Now I have to wait another year and hope I find all those again in wild.

Azure Sapphire by Chaitanya Shukla, on Flickr

 

[Talley]

But since its Canon and not Fuji, I dont expect them to add new functionality in old cameras...

Right. Because they didn't add features to the 5DII (manual audio gain, etc.). They didn't add features to the 7D (a 66% increase in RAW buffer depth, Auto ISO limits, etc.). They didn't add features to the 5DIII (uncompressed HDMI out, f/8 AF, etc.). They didn't add features to the 1D X (f/8 AF, EC in M mode). So if you wouldn't expect Canon to add new functionality in old cameras, it's because either your memory or your knowledge of facts – or both – is badly flawed.

What a bunch of vinegary ingrates, just going by the tone of the geniuses who bash and second guess.

Sorry, just woke up, saw a nice feature soon to be available at a cheaper price, and a bunch of really sour posts following. Give me some coffee.

Just don't let anyone piss in your Wheaties. It seems to have happened to some here, and it didn't end well.

But then Canon didnt add backward compatibility for ST-E3-RT to 7D. According to their own classification of cameras after 2012 to be fully compatible with RT system, (if I remember correctly) EOS 1200D isn't even fully compatible with RT system. Also GP-E2 not fully backwards compatible with older cameras. Also didnt Magic Lantern already unlock all the video features for 5D mk II/III users long before Canon decided to "upgrade" gimped firmwares.
Edit: I still dont understand why the ****** is Canon not giving Eos XXD users Dual SD card slots, during my recent trip in Himalayas thanks to a SD card failure I lost a days worth of pics consisting of some dozen or so rare butterflies and orchids. Now I have to wait another year and hope I find all those again in wild.

Azure Sapphire by Chaitanya Shukla, on Flickr

Thats not canons fault. You could of easily just spread the cards out over the day. Cards are cheap right?... There are options to backup SD cards in the field to a portable HDD. Granted dual slots would be great but failure rates are very low.

 

[Don Haines]

I am going to wait for the device to be released and then use it before I pass judgement on it.

 

[rrcphoto]

Edit: I still dont understand why the ****** is Canon not giving Eos XXD users Dual SD card slots, during my recent trip in Himalayas thanks to a SD card failure I lost a days worth of pics consisting of some dozen or so rare butterflies and orchids. Now I have to wait another year and hope I find all those again in wild.

so let me get this straight.

you shot images of rare butterflies,etc .. and waited DAYS before dumping the card onto some other device, for backup purposes .. and that's canon's fault.

 

[Don Haines]

why the ****** is Canon not giving Eos XXD users Dual SD card slots, during my recent trip in Himalayas thanks to a SD card failure I lost a days worth of pics consisting of some dozen or so rare butterflies and orchids. Now I have to wait another year and hope I find all those again in wild.

The answer is fairly easy.... if you want high-end features then you buy a high end camera. For the vast bulk of users, the idea of using two card slots is laughable. Even if they had the ability, most would not use it. Canon decided (and I think rightfully) that in the introductory bodies a dual card slot would not be useful and would add un-necessary complexity to the user. Remember that most of these cameras are left in "green box" mode....

 

[Antono Refa]

Edit: I still dont understand why the ****** is Canon not giving Eos XXD users Dual SD card slots, during my recent trip in Himalayas thanks to a SD card failure I lost a days worth of pics consisting of some dozen or so rare butterflies and orchids. Now I have to wait another year and hope I find all those again in wild.

so let me get this straight.

you shot images of rare butterflies,etc .. and waited DAYS before dumping the card onto some other device, for backup purposes .. and that's canon's fault.

I think he meant "a day's worth".

 

[Antono Refa]

why the ****** is Canon not giving Eos XXD users Dual SD card slots, during my recent trip in Himalayas thanks to a SD card failure I lost a days worth of pics consisting of some dozen or so rare butterflies and orchids. Now I have to wait another year and hope I find all those again in wild.

The answer is fairly easy.... if you want high-end features then you buy a high end camera. For the vast bulk of users, the idea of using two card slots is laughable. Even if they had the ability, most would not use it. Canon decided (and I think rightfully) that in the introductory bodies a dual card slot would not be useful and would add un-necessary complexity to the user. Remember that most of these cameras are left in "green box" mode....

IMHO

1) xxD bodies aren't introductory.

2) "There are two SD slots, you may leave one empty" isn't complex.

 

[unfocused]

why the ****** is Canon not giving Eos XXD users Dual SD card slots, during my recent trip in Himalayas thanks to a SD card failure I lost a days worth of pics consisting of some dozen or so rare butterflies and orchids. Now I have to wait another year and hope I find all those again in wild.

The answer is fairly easy.... if you want high-end features then you buy a high end camera. For the vast bulk of users, the idea of using two card slots is laughable. Even if they had the ability, most would not use it. Canon decided (and I think rightfully) that in the introductory bodies a dual card slot would not be useful and would add un-necessary complexity to the user. Remember that most of these cameras are left in "green box" mode....

IMHO

1) xxD bodies aren't introductory.

2) "There are two SD slots, you may leave one empty" isn't complex.

I agree that the XXD body isn't introductory As far as I know there is really only one currently anyway: the 80D.

I disagree that most 80D users (and 40/50/6070 D users previously) leave the camera on "green box" mode, which is frankly kind of insulting. It's the second-most costly APS-C Canon and as the 7D has become pretty much a specialist camera, it's really the all-rounder at the upper end of the crop sensor line.

As far as dual-slots go, though, that's a feature that has been gradually moving down-market and may eventually end up in the line, but I suspect that Canon's research showed that it isn't a major issue for most users, especially given that SD cards are actually quite reliable and much more durable than they appear (CF cards and slots are actually more fragile). Still, unfortunately, a card failure can happen. I've never been that unlucky but I know it does happen. Curious though, what the brand was and how frequently the shooter checked the files. One reason why I prefer more cards with less capacity than fewer cards with higher capacity.

 

[Don Haines]

why the ****** is Canon not giving Eos XXD users Dual SD card slots, during my recent trip in Himalayas thanks to a SD card failure I lost a days worth of pics consisting of some dozen or so rare butterflies and orchids. Now I have to wait another year and hope I find all those again in wild.

The answer is fairly easy.... if you want high-end features then you buy a high end camera. For the vast bulk of users, the idea of using two card slots is laughable. Even if they had the ability, most would not use it. Canon decided (and I think rightfully) that in the introductory bodies a dual card slot would not be useful and would add un-necessary complexity to the user. Remember that most of these cameras are left in "green box" mode....

IMHO

1) xxD bodies aren't introductory.

2) "There are two SD slots, you may leave one empty" isn't complex.

I agree that the XXD body isn't introductory As far as I know there is really only one currently anyway: the 80D.

I disagree that most 80D users (and 40/50/6070 D users previously) leave the camera on "green box" mode, which is frankly kind of insulting. It's the second-most costly APS-C Canon and as the 7D has become pretty much a specialist camera, it's really the all-rounder at the upper end of the crop sensor line.

As far as dual-slots go, though, that's a feature that has been gradually moving down-market and may eventually end up in the line, but I suspect that Canon's research showed that it isn't a major issue for most users, especially given that SD cards are actually quite reliable and much more durable than they appear (CF cards and slots are actually more fragile). Still, unfortunately, a card failure can happen. I've never been that unlucky but I know it does happen. Curious though, what the brand was and how frequently the shooter checked the files. One reason why I prefer more cards with less capacity than fewer cards with higher capacity.

Perhaps my use of "introductory" was a bad choice of words..... What I really meant was non-high-end cameras....

And yes, I have had cards fail in my 60D and fortunately the loss was minimal (files corrupted, lost the JPG but not the RAW on one card, a dozen or so shots on the other)

And yes, I have seen many people shooting their xxD camera in "green box" mode. I have seen 5DIII and 7DII cameras in "green box" mode..... Remember, we are enthusiasts in this forum.... we do not represent the typical consumer....

 

[TW]

I am going to wait for the device to be released and then use it before I pass judgement on it.

Sheesh, who's this guy? Talkin' like a crazy person. Must be some sort of nut!

 

[Mt Spokane Photography]

Seems an odd thing to do as a separate feature. Was it really that urgent to do it now instead of putting it into the next model?

Its not in a model, its separate, basically a eye-fi SD card that has 2 way communication. No info as to any memory it might have. If there is no internal memory, it may just work for 2 slot cameras like the 7D or 5D MK III.

I've seen no Canon patents mentioned for such a device, so it may well be made by eye-fi.

Since most new cameras have built-in Wi-Fi, its definitely a product with a limited market. Many users will not give up a card slot to get Wi-Fi. I use a eye-fi card in my 5D MK III, but its also a SD card.

 

[Chaitanya]

why the ****** is Canon not giving Eos XXD users Dual SD card slots, during my recent trip in Himalayas thanks to a SD card failure I lost a days worth of pics consisting of some dozen or so rare butterflies and orchids. Now I have to wait another year and hope I find all those again in wild.

The answer is fairly easy.... if you want high-end features then you buy a high end camera. For the vast bulk of users, the idea of using two card slots is laughable. Even if they had the ability, most would not use it. Canon decided (and I think rightfully) that in the introductory bodies a dual card slot would not be useful and would add un-necessary complexity to the user. Remember that most of these cameras are left in "green box" mode....

EOS XXD is not "introductory" camera by any stretch of imagination, also in the same price range Nikon has been offering Dual SD slots(and AF linked spot metering) for ages now with D7XX0 series of cameras. What complexity does Dual memory card add? You can just insert one memory card and shoot straight away, it's not rocket science. Also I have this bad habit of packing memory cards equal to no. of days I will be shooting in field( since I shoot flowers, butterflies, and herps with little bit of landscape I dont need more than 16GB card a day). And I make it a point to change memory cards every 24hrs and insert a new freshly formatted card into camera. Since I was trekking alone in Himalayas I had to compromise on the camera kit that I carried in the bag as I to prioritise trekking gear to camera gear, and I didnt carry 5D mk III(even though it was avl to me). The SD card that failed contained photos taken in 24hrs or 1 day of shooting in Himalayas. And now I have to wait another year(if I decide to make another trek to Himalayas) and then finding those rare butterflies and orchids will depend on luck.

 

[Meatcurry]

I'm wondering whether this adapter is actually for the 5D4, that would be a bit disappointing.

 

[AvTvM]

I'm wondering whether this adapter is actually for the 5D4, that would be a bit disappointing.

hehe, that would indeed be so truly STUPID Canon fashion!
new canon sd-wifi adapter for 6D4 ... and if we are lucky also for later EOS mirrorslappers launched from 2016 onwards ... i would rate this expectation [CR2]

 

[Otara]

Seems an odd thing to do as a separate feature. Was it really that urgent to do it now instead of putting it into the next model?

Its not in a model, its separate, basically a eye-fi SD card that has 2 way communication. No info as to any memory it might have. If there is no internal memory, it may just work for 2 slot cameras like the 7D or 5D MK III.

I've seen no Canon patents mentioned for such a device, so it may well be made by eye-fi.

Since most new cameras have built-in Wi-Fi, its definitely a product with a limited market. Many users will not give up a card slot to get Wi-Fi. I use a eye-fi card in my 5D MK III, but its also a SD card.

Yes if its just a neat little product that is similar to the nikon option, it would make more sense. It was the 7D2 firmware and this being linked together that seemed a bit odd to me, its not exactly coming across as a 'wow' addition worth announcing at an event to me, even though it might have its uses.

 

[eosuser1234]

Canon branded EYE-FI cards and new firmware that allows this functionality. WOW if this is all that Canon is planning, they are really blowing it. Start listening to Maeda-san and innovate please!

No one in Japan will buy eye-fi, as Flash Air by Toshiba are super cheap already.