Canon's Roadmap for 2013 [CR2]

[Sphyn0x]

Here is what i think: ;D

Rebel: 1200d (new sensor, low specs) and 70d (same 18 mpix sensor with 19 AF points, more fps, wifi and gps, video button, touch screen)

Mid level: 7d with new sensor and new specs.

2014: rebel/700d with the sensor from the "7D version 2".

I hope there will be no touchscreen. Regular swivel screen is enough.

 

[FunPhotons]

Well that's too bad - no high MP body, but good for my wallet I guess.

If they release a new 100-400 I'll get it though.

 

[motorhead]

So no response to Nikons D800e any time soon then! I'm not surprised, because historically Canon do like to take their time. Hopefully it means that when we do see a new IDs or its equivalent it will have been worth the wait and does not instead mean that they have no idea how to outdo the D800E!

 

[Don Haines]

I hope there will be no touchscreen. Regular swivel screen is enough.

You will probably see touch screens on everything now. It's easier on the design process to have a common screen across bodies and cheaper for mass production. It also means less different parts in a repair depot. You can always turn the touch functionality off....

 

[well_dunno]

I wonder what Nikon's roadmap is and how their competitive launch will compare to Canon's...

Probably a D7000 replacement one could expect, over at nikon rumors news as this one are showing up:
http://nikonrumors.com/2013/01/21/nikon-d7000-listed-as-discontinued-in-australian-retailer.aspx/

I wonder whether they are looking into something more like the 5Dmk3 - D800/e, for the good and bad, does not seem to be aimed at the same market segment and as much as Canon needs a direct competitor to D800, Nikon would need a direct competitor to 5Dmk3... At least the idea comes to mind...

 

[Woody]

If we assume no sensor improvements, we get the following:

Look at the T4i. You can't pimp it out much more. The only things missing are wireless and GPS. Other than that, it has every function canon has for a camera. If there was a new rebel, you have to add this. This leaves the 70D with the only possible improvements over the new rebel as better build, shoulder display, and the reintroduction of AFMA. Since they said it would be incremental improvement..... No new sensor....

The 7Dii, if it is to better than the 70D, would have to be dual processors for higher fps....plus all the 70D functions except for tilt/swivel screen.

The problem is that I can pick up an Olympus E-M5 that beats the iq of any canon APS-c camera and they are supposed to be introducing an even better successor to the E-5 ..... Or I can go Panasonic......or I can go Sony..... Or I can go Nikon.... Canon is now positioned at the bottom of the APS-c world for iq and even micro four thirds is beating it. A new sensor is long overdue and no upgrade will be worth it until they release one. I just hope they do it before we add iPhone to the list of cameras with better sensors.

Well said. I've replaced my APS-C stuff with the Oly OM-D E-M5.

 

[K-amps]

7 D II in the 2. half of 2013 -> :'(

Yeah, more time to save I 'spose!

In another forum they suppose >2500$ for the MK 2. I hope they will be wrong with this rumor

Surely they wouldn't price it above the 6D?

They would not want to limit themselves by what size sensor they put in the 6D... other functionality also affects price... not just sensor size.

I am of the opinion that the 6D should have been named the 8D... this would have allowed them to up price the 7dii.... but they can always break the rules of pricing smaller model numbers less than larger numbers...

They will break naming conventions if they see it makes them more money...

 

[Dukinald]

7 D II in the 2. half of 2013 -> :'(

Yeah, more time to save I 'spose!

In another forum they suppose >2500$ for the MK 2. I hope they will be wrong with this rumor

So for me, this would be an end of year purchase as I'm not an early adopter.

Oh well, if the price is what you've indicated, the 6D will be the update path for me.

 

[Don Haines]

If we assume no sensor improvements, we get the following:

Look at the T4i. You can't pimp it out much more. The only things missing are wireless and GPS. Other than that, it has every function canon has for a camera. If there was a new rebel, you have to add this. This leaves the 70D with the only possible improvements over the new rebel as better build, shoulder display, and the reintroduction of AFMA. Since they said it would be incremental improvement..... No new sensor....

The 7Dii, if it is to better than the 70D, would have to be dual processors for higher fps....plus all the 70D functions except for tilt/swivel screen.

The problem is that I can pick up an Olympus E-M5 that beats the iq of any canon APS-c camera and they are supposed to be introducing an even better successor to the E-5 ..... Or I can go Panasonic......or I can go Sony..... Or I can go Nikon.... Canon is now positioned at the bottom of the APS-c world for iq and even micro four thirds is beating it. A new sensor is long overdue and no upgrade will be worth it until they release one. I just hope they do it before we add iPhone to the list of cameras with better sensors.

Well said. I've replaced my APS-C stuff with the Oly OM-D E-M5.

I'm wondering about the e-5 successor.... The 50-200 is a nice chunk of glass and the 12-60 is nothing to sneeze at either..... Just wished they had a 400 or 500 for birding/wildlife

 

[Bob Howland]

After the introduction of the Metabones Speed Booster, I have to wonder if Canon will introduce a version of their own for M-bodies and EF lenses. Conceivably, they could make one with 0.62996 magnification (1.5874 crop factor) while increasing the aperture by 1-1/3 stops, an improvement of 1/3 stops over the Metabones.

 

[Marsu42]

Somehow, I feel like Canon should skip 2013 and go right to 2014 :-o

 

[TrumpetPower!]

Surely they wouldn't price it above the 6D?

Of course they would, the 6d is entry level (it just happens to be full frame), the 7d is medium to pro (sports/wildlife aps-c) ... the 1.6x lens magnification is the reason many photogs have a 7d even if they could easily afford a 5d3.

Think of the price difference of a 300mm lens to a 300x1.6 ~= 500mm lens - that's the amount of money you can save when buying aps-c over ff, and Canon know they can add a part of the difference on top of the 7d2 price.

I don't have a 7D. But what I've heard and read from those who have both it and a 5DIII, even using the same lenses for little birdies when they're distance-limited with both bodies, the 5DIII still beats the 7D. I've heard from more than one person who had both with the intention of using them for different stuff...and who ditched the 7D (either altogether or to pay for another 5DIII).

Even though the cropped image from the 5DIII doesn't have as many megapickles as the still cropped image from the 7D, the image quality is at least comparable, with the nod perhaps going to the 5DIII. But, more importantly, even though the frame rate is lower for the 5DIII, the autofocus system is so much better that you get a higher percentage of keepers.

So, if you want something better than a 7D, consider a 5DIII.

One would assume, of course, that the 7DII would have the same autofocus as the 5DIII and the frame rate of the 7D and image quality up to current standards, which would obviously tip the scales back to the 7DII for distance-limited photography. But I think it's also safe to assume that the 5DIV will again jump ahead, and that the two will continue to play leapfrog.

Cheers,

b&

 

[xps]

Somehow, I feel like Canon should skip 2013 and go right to 2014 :-o

+1 ;D

 

[pdirestajr]

How about we all just go shoot photographs with the cameras and lenses we have right now, and meet back here in a year! Doesn't look like much of anything interesting will be happening, and to me that's actually fine- I don't have to spend any money for a few minutes!

The technology is really getting good, upgrades are so minor these days, there's no real excuses left.

I think I'll buy an X100s though just to satisfy my sickness.

Cheers!

 

[emko]

do you guys think the new 100-400 will again be with this push zoom?

 

[xps]

I had an interresting talk with five Japanese tourists at the winners ceremony.
They had professional Nikon and Canon cameras and told me that Nikon will release a top Crop Camera in spring this year and update their Nikon 100-400 pedant (80-400 or so).

The Canon 7D2 will be priced much higher than an D300 successor, near the 5D3 .
The Camera will be an class for its own. A small 1Dx. Fast AF and high fps. A special product for all persons that will need high speed and do not have the money for an 1Dx.
The Canon successor of the 100-400 will be at 270.000-300000 Yen.

One of them said, that in Japanese photography chatrooms many think, that Canon should buy some of the parts at thrid party companies. Today the Sony chip is much better than Canons.
And if Canon will not change their strategy, they will be soon in financial problems

 

[xps]

do you guys think the new 100-400 will again be with this push zoom?

I got the information that there will be an rotating zoom. But much higher priced than the 100-400 L (Rumors from Japanese tourists that are photographic enthusiasts)

 

[candyman]

I had an interresting talk with five Japanese tourists at the winners ceremony.
They had professional Nikon and Canon cameras and told me that Nikon will release a top Crop Camera in spring this year and update their Nikon 100-400 pedant (80-400 or so).

The Canon 7D2 will be priced much higher than an D300 successor, near the 5D3 .
The Camera will be an class for its own. A small 1Dx. Fast AF and high fps. A special product for all persons that will need high speed and do not have the money for an 1Dx.
The Canon successor of the 100-400 will be at 270.000-300000 Yen.

One of them said, that in Japanese photography chatrooms many think, that Canon should buy some of the parts at thrid party companies. Today the Sony chip is much better than Canons.
And if Canon will not change their strategy, they will be soon in financial problems

I would consider to upgrade my 7D to a 7D MK II but I am not that desperate to pay almost 3000 euro

 

[garyknrd]

I'm tired of waiting. I shoot wildlife and have two great canon lenses. But also have the same ones in Sigma mount for Pentax. I am buying the new k-5 II and a grip. Shelving the new CAnon 500 II until I can get a decent crop body. Screw em.

 

[xps]

I had an interresting talk with five Japanese tourists at the winners ceremony.
They had professional Nikon and Canon cameras and told me that Nikon will release a top Crop Camera in spring this year and update their Nikon 100-400 pedant (80-400 or so).

The Canon 7D2 will be priced much higher than an D300 successor, near the 5D3 .
The Camera will be an class for its own. A small 1Dx. Fast AF and high fps. A special product for all persons that will need high speed and do not have the money for an 1Dx.
The Canon successor of the 100-400 will be at 270.000-300000 Yen.

One of them said, that in Japanese photography chatrooms many think, that Canon should buy some of the parts at thrid party companies. Today the Sony chip is much better than Canons.
And if Canon will not change their strategy, they will be soon in financial problems

I would consider to upgrade my 7D to a 7D MK II but I am not that desperate to pay almost 3000 euro

This is really true. IMO Canon knows that enthusiasts will buy their Cameras. (Like we need the newest smartphone, even if it is not better than the predecessor. And they know that it is very expensive to change the equipment in lenses to another product line.
So the success will be guaranteed