This is the possible Canon RF mount camera roadmap [CR2]

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Is the R5 2nd button you mention set to "eye detection AF" or "eye detection". There are 2 choices in stills mode, but in video mode there is only the "eye detection" mode. I don't know what the difference is between them, do you?
The second button is set to "eye detection AF". I only used it for stills, so no, I don't know the difference between these two modes.

Also I always have "eye detection" (AF menu 1) set to "Enable". So would I have to set this to "Disable" by default so that I would then press the 2nd "eye detection [AF]" button to turn it on each time? If so, would I have to do that for every single photo?
That is correct. The first back button focus is for regular autofocus (using chosen AF point), the second one for eye detection autofocus. Of course, most of the times, you only press one of them, but when you want to isolate your subject in a crowd, your eye detection AF can't know who you want to photograph, so you have to chose with the first BB AF before you use eye detection AF. Same technique when you want to focus on the eyes of that otter hidden in the bushes: you know where it hides, but you have to "show it" to your AF using the first button. Then, the second button finishes the job in an instant.

It might seem complicated because I explain poorly, but after I set it up on my friends R5, it took me only a few minutes to completely get use to it.

Thanks for your help!
Much obliged, hope I can help despite my poor use of the english language!
 

tigers media

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Fair enough, cheers for the info always good to get another point of view, Looks like they will have you covered then, for the future.
 

tigers media

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If you can't get closer to the animal or afforder a bigger lens, you won't see an IQ difference between FF and APS-C, as you have to crop to the same framing anyway. If you don't have to crop the FF image, because you are so close or using such a long big white, FF will be just over one stop less noisy.
cheers mate , nice info
 

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While I'm no expert on this (or on many other things I talk about :ROFLMAO: ), I wouldn't think that IBIS would make the corners any worse than they would have been (due to handhold shake) without it. But when Canon says they're getting some extremely high #stops of dual IS (which I often have seen measured by 3 or so less stops when user tested) I would strongly assume that it is measured in the center of the sensor, while the corners of the sensor for an extreme wide angle view would be still be improved, but by much less than the center.
Ok, so turns out you and everyone else can dismiss me saying the 15-35 wasn't as good on the R/Ra o_O My Ra came back from CPS repair yesterday for another issue (sensor cleaning was overly loud), and they replaced the circuit board. Corners at 15mm/infinity and 35mm/MFD/2.8 on the Ra are both sharp like the R5 now. Definitely something I am GLAD to be wrong about. Will keep the Ra now as backup and 2nd body. Thanks for the conversation, though, and for holding to the logic that it was more likely an issue with the R than an improvement with the R5 sensor design. Now I can go back to worrying about how these lenses will look on the 90mp R :LOL:
 

CanonOregon

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I wonder what they can possibly do in the segment above the R5. More Mega pixels for landscape photography? or faster FPS for action/sports? Better low light performance...or all three.
they could fix the overheating for 8k video, but since they have a different line for that, I doubt that will be enough.

(personally I have an R6 and the autofocus is such an improvement over the 6d...next: RF glass)
I know, and I'm coming from a 7d MkII! Autofocus, when set up right, is downright cheating!
 

CanonOregon

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I would probably buy the APS-C model if it's a 7D3 equivalent but I don't think the market is all that large. What I wonder is whether Canon could use the same basic architecture to develop something similar for the M-mount and how well such a camera would sell.
Hmmm...I'm thinking the market is HUGE IF using a smaller sensor saves Canon a ton of money. As I understand chip development, there are many more APS-C sensors per wafer than full frame sensors.
 
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DJPatte

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I haven't read the eight pages of comments following yours, so maybe someone already suggested it to you, but you could use the "two back button focus" technique in these kind of situations. First back button focusing brings you on focus on your subject, then you press the second one to activate eye detection and refine the focus.

I set it up and tried it on a friend's R5, it's very fast and works like a charm both on humans and animals, but I can't get it to work on my RP.
Good luck!
Me neither, but I think it has been all quiet ;D - But thanks, will def. look into that (y)
 

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I haven't read the eight pages of comments following yours, so maybe someone already suggested it to you, but you could use the "two back button focus" technique in these kind of situations. First back button focusing brings you on focus on your subject, then you press the second one to activate eye detection and refine the focus.

I set it up and tried it on a friend's R5, it's very fast and works like a charm both on humans and animals, but I can't get it to work on my RP.
Good luck!
I can pretty much confirm it doesn't work on an RP. Even after assigning the eye detection to the splat button, it won't work. But I love it on my R5.
 

DJPatte

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I can pretty much confirm it doesn't work on an RP. Even after assigning the eye detection to the splat button, it won't work. But I love it on my R5.
But does the R and RP even have Eye Detection/Focus..? Think it was introduced with the R5 and the R had "Face Detection" at most :)
Or that was basically what you said yes ;)
 
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usern4cr

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Ok, so turns out you and everyone else can dismiss me saying the 15-35 wasn't as good on the R/Ra o_O My Ra came back from CPS repair yesterday for another issue (sensor cleaning was overly loud), and they replaced the circuit board. Corners at 15mm/infinity and 35mm/MFD/2.8 on the Ra are both sharp like the R5 now. Definitely something I am GLAD to be wrong about. Will keep the Ra now as backup and 2nd body. Thanks for the conversation, though, and for holding to the logic that it was more likely an issue with the R than an improvement with the R5 sensor design. Now I can go back to worrying about how these lenses will look on the 90mp R :LOL:
I'm glad the servicing of the Ra fixed your problem. I don't see how a new circuit board in itself could have caused that particular optical issue, unless there was a broken clip or two on the board holding down the sensor or it was otherwise misaligned. I would assume that their replacing it and reassembly caused them to make sure all clips and shimmed alignments of it (and the contained sensor) were correct. That would easily fix considerable optical errors at the corners. I've seen teardowns of Sony (and other) bodies showing broken sensor attachment clips and significant misalignment of the sensors relative to the mount. After years of using camera bodies & lenses and the inevitable bumps they get, I'm amazed that they can keep their alignment as well as they do.

I also enjoyed our conversations on this, and yes ... we can now go back to worrying about how these lenses will look on the 90(?)MP R5s :ROFLMAO:
 

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But does the R and RP even have Eye Detection/Focus..? Think it was introduced with the R5 and the R had "Face Detection" at most :)
Or that was basically what you said yes ;)
No, you're correct. I said the wrong thing, and that is because I was confused. Thanks for the correction!
 
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But does the R and RP even have Eye Detection/Focus..? Think it was introduced with the R5 and the R had "Face Detection" at most :)
Or that was basically what you said yes ;)
The RP has the eye detection autofocus, and it works pretty well on a still or slow moving subject. Forget a running kid, though! I use it a lot with portraits.
 

Bob Howland

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Hmmm...I'm thinking the market is HUGE IF using a smaller sensor saves Canon a ton of money. As I understand chip development, there are many more APS-C sensors per wafer than full frame sensors.
How much cheaper could an RP be if it had an APS-C sensor instead of a FF sensor? Probably not much.