CES Announcements Expected from Canon

[K-amps]

I am confused why CR guy does not think the 1dxii is a possible announcement. I keep hearing that the 1dxii will be shipping by spring/summer 2016; so January is already a late announcement if we are looking for an early summer release. Do we now think the 1dx ii will be pushed back?

Funny. Why would you be confused? At this point what will be announced is anybody's guess... except for insiders who already know and cannot divulge the information.

I am not too sure even insiders know this because even they themselves have not made a decision yet. Typically you will have 2-3 prototypes given to a few people to provide back feedback. Then they will need to negotiate sourcing (in-house or procured) some of this will have happened already but PO's cannot be cut without definitive commitments... if we had a firm decision... some chatter would have come out by now.

When you get multiple rumor specs, sometimes these are from different prototypes as well.

I suspect the 5dv/1dxII might have been out by now, had the 5ds been a runaway success (it was merely lukewarm if you poll camera stores) the A7rii was a huge hit, and unless the 5d4 can wow it's intended target market with something radical, it will be more than a mere disappointment. It will still sell well, but it's not going to be a 5d2, or even a 5d3... those days were different. So Canon is probably delaying till they can wow us again... I hope.

 

[Mancubus]

Maybe Canon is making us all crazy by not saying anything and then they will announce all at once: 1DX2, 5D4, 6D2 80D, SL2, EOS M4.

But probably not, they will just announce another overlapping variable f-stop zoom that I couldn't care less

 

[George D.]

NAB Show, April 16-21, 2016 in Las Vegas looks like the place for 1DX2 announcements (4K included). The Olympics in Rio begin August 5, plenty of time to also announce 5D4 in-between. Of course, the sooner the better.

 

[Tangent]

SL2: Beginning to wonder if M is the new SL2. SL1 could be a one-off. For compact IL see M cams.

 

[Bob Howland]

SL2: Beginning to wonder if M is the new SL2. SL1 could be a one-off. For compact IL see M cams.

+1, especially if an APS-C sensor could be stuffed into something like a G5X (perhaps a little larger) with an M-mount.

 

[AWR]

SL2: Beginning to wonder if M is the new SL2. SL1 could be a one-off. For compact IL see M cams.

+1, especially if an APS-C sensor could be stuffed into something like a G5X (perhaps a little larger) with an M-mount.

I'm not into the Sony bandwagon, in fact I don't see the hype when comparing my 5D3 IQ to any of their new offerings. But that said, the RX1R II is astonishing concept.

I'd be willing to pay "silly money" for more compact 5D3 from Canon.

 

[Ozarker]

I am confused why CR guy does not think the 1dxii is a possible announcement. I keep hearing that the 1dxii will be shipping by spring/summer 2016; so January is already a late announcement if we are looking for an early summer release. Do we now think the 1dx ii will be pushed back?

Funny. Why would you be confused? At this point what will be announced is anybody's guess... except for insiders who already know and cannot divulge the information.

I am not too sure even insiders know this because even they themselves have not made a decision yet. Typically you will have 2-3 prototypes given to a few people to provide back feedback. Then they will need to negotiate sourcing (in-house or procured) some of this will have happened already but PO's cannot be cut without definitive commitments... if we had a firm decision... some chatter would have come out by now.

When you get multiple rumor specs, sometimes these are from different prototypes as well.

I suspect the 5dv/1dxII might have been out by now, had the 5ds been a runaway success (it was merely lukewarm if you poll camera stores) the A7rii was a huge hit, and unless the 5d4 can wow it's intended target market with something radical, it will be more than a mere disappointment. It will still sell well, but it's not going to be a 5d2, or even a 5d3... those days were different. So Canon is probably delaying till they can wow us again... I hope.

Yeah, you are probably right.

My 5D III still has that new smell and still wows me. It will for a long time. I'll not upgrade until whatever replaces the 5D IV is announced. Hopefully, this won't be like the T4i being replaced by the T5i (both almost exactly the same). I very much doubt that it will be like that though.

Whatever happens, waiting for those two announcements is exciting!

 

[jeffa4444]

I would expect DSLR annoucements at the beginning of March next year this would fall inline with the 5D MKIII which was annouced on March 2nd 2012. From March 19-22nd is "The Photography Show" at the Birmingham NEC, England and they had the first European showing of the 5D MKIII at this show back in 2012.

 

[StudentOfLight]

I would expect DSLR annoucements at the beginning of March next year this would fall inline with the 5D MKIII which was annouced on March 2nd 2012. From March 19-22nd is "The Photography Show" at the Birmingham NEC, England and they had the first European showing of the 5D MKIII at this show back in 2012.

I recall reading that 2 March 2016 would also be Canon's 80th anniversary as well as coinciding with 30 years of EOS cameras.

 

[jeffa4444]

I would expect DSLR annoucements at the beginning of March next year this would fall inline with the 5D MKIII which was annouced on March 2nd 2012. From March 19-22nd is "The Photography Show" at the Birmingham NEC, England and they had the first European showing of the 5D MKIII at this show back in 2012.

I recall reading that 2 March 2016 would also be Canon's 80th anniversary as well as coinciding with 30 years of EOS cameras.

Canon launched the EOS 650 on the 2nd March 1987 this was the official launch of the EOS system so 2017 will be thirty years. Canon 80th anniversary was on 2nd September 2014. Both of these dates however have significance for Canon.

 

[Proscribo]

What would be better way to celebrate 30th anniversary of EOS than updating whole FF lineup: 6DII, 5DIV and 1DXII all at once!

Oh yeah, I'm most interested in 6DII so that's why I'd like to see it announced soon. ;D

 

[denomite]

I have enough invested in Canon product, but not enough to keep me with Canon. I have been seriously thinking about jumping ship, but have been giving Canon chance after chance that the next release will satisfy me. Not yet so far.
Looking at what the competitions are coming out with, I don't know how long Canon can keep me waiting.
Please improve on image quality. 4K, not a big deal for me. And probably don't need it. But a canon version of Nikon D750 would be a good addition. A model split would be nice so canon can satisfy those who want 4K and those who do not.

 

[Nininini]

Beginning to wonder if M is the new SL2.

if Canon does like Sony and dumps their DSLR lines for mirrorless, I'll just switch brands and get a Leica M, I can't stand EVF. The moment Canon starts replacing DSLR lines with mirrorless, I'm done with Canon, if I wanted an EVF I would have switched to Sony 2 years ago.

 

[Orangutan]

I don't know how long Canon can keep me waiting.

Please improve on image quality...a canon version of Nikon D750 would be a good addition.

What body do you have now, and in what ways does it fail to meet your needs? Have you borrowed/rented a D750 to compare image quality for your type of photography?

 

[Loswr]

I don't know how long Canon can keep me waiting.

Please improve on image quality...a canon version of Nikon D750 would be a good addition.

What body do you have now, and in what ways does it fail to meet your needs? Have you borrowed/rented a D750 to compare image quality for your type of photography?

Why try one? DxOMark says it has more low ISO DR, what more does anyone need to know? Lenses? Phthtth, who needs 'em. It's not like they really impact image quality, just look at how much better Nikon sensors score on DxO lens tests.

 

[Orangutan]

I don't know how long Canon can keep me waiting.

Please improve on image quality...a canon version of Nikon D750 would be a good addition.

What body do you have now, and in what ways does it fail to meet your needs? Have you borrowed/rented a D750 to compare image quality for your type of photography?

Why try one? DxOMark says it has more low ISO DR, what more does anyone need to know? Lenses? Phthtth, who needs 'em. It's not like they really impact image quality, just look at how much better Nikon sensors score on DxO lens tests.

denomite didn't mention DxO, so I was curious as to why he made the statement. There have been a few CR commenters who have given reasons to prefer SoNikon sensors that seemed reasonable to me, based on their specific needs and shooting style. You, yourself have said...well, you know what you've said. ;D

 

[Loswr]

I have said ... and I stand by it. But statements like, "Canon needs to improve their IQ," are generally just silly.

 

[Orangutan]

I have said ... and I stand by it. But statements like, "Canon needs to improve their IQ," are generally just silly.

These are different things: I agree that it's silly to say that "Canon needs to improve their IQ," we've been on the same side of that tempest in a teacup on several threads. It's a different thing entirely to say "I do photography style X, and I've used Canon and Sony sensors, and prefer the results of the Sony sensors. With all my Canon gear I wish Canon would produce a sensor to match the Sony." I was trying to get the poster to explain, exactly, how the Canon was inadequate to need.

You have also said:

http://www.canonrumors.com/forum/index.php?topic=21381.msg422517#msg422517

the many times I've stated that if I shot primarily landscape photography, I'd be using a D800 for that becuase it's the best choice (or was, before the D810). That's putting down anyone other than Canon? Like I said, it's about the system, not the sensor.

To be fair, this was also before the 5DS came out as well. But the point remains: for a few specialties of photography, the characteristics of the sensor are significant.

 

[Loswr]

I have said ... and I stand by it. But statements like, "Canon needs to improve their IQ," are generally just silly.

These are different things: I agree that it's silly to say that "Canon needs to improve their IQ," we've been on the same side of that tempest in a teacup on several threads. It's a different thing entirely to say "I do photography style X, and I've used Canon and Sony sensors, and prefer the results of the Sony sensors. With all my Canon gear I wish Canon would produce a sensor to match the Sony." I was trying to get the poster to explain, exactly, how the Canon was inadequate to need.

You have also said:

http://www.canonrumors.com/forum/index.php?topic=21381.msg422517#msg422517

the many times I've stated that if I shot primarily landscape photography, I'd be using a D800 for that becuase it's the best choice (or was, before the D810). That's putting down anyone other than Canon? Like I said, it's about the system, not the sensor.

To be fair, this was also before the 5DS came out as well. But the point remains: for a few specialties of photography, the characteristics of the sensor are significant.

Agreed. The statement was, "Please improve on image quality...a Canon version of the Nikon D750 would be a good addition." Silly, at least without context.

 

[ronaldbyram]

Do we think this is it for Canon on the announcements? Nikon has fired a shot right across the bow of Canon the the D5 and the D500. could this be a 7D killer?
What about this flipping ISO to over 1 million. Hell that throws the Exposure triangle out of the water. This think must see in the dark. for x tray ya?

Come on Canon!