Cinema EOS 1D & EOS C500 for NAB
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4k RAW video, wow. Better buy the best machine to edit that stuff.
4k RAW video, wow. Better buy the best machine to edit that stuff.
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Yes, and to record it as well. The Sony FS700 is rumored to be 4K ready. This means you need not only a TBA firmware upgrade, but a separate proprietary recorder which is going to cost $$$ and only work with the Sony proprietary 4K output. They seem to have a knack for shooting themselves in the foot with expensive options that are required to make a product work and do not work on other brands.
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Yes, and to record it as well. The Sony FS700 is rumored to be 4K ready. This means you need not only a TBA firmware upgrade, but a separate proprietary recorder which is going to cost $$$ and only work with the Sony proprietary 4K output. They seem to have a knack for shooting themselves in the foot with expensive options that are required to make a product work and do not work on other brands.
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All this suggests to me is that Canon has gotten a taste of the ridiculous prices that people in the cinematography world are willing to pay and have become a money hungry entity. They don't innovate or revolutionize, they only capitalize. Yes I'm sure both camera will be heralded as the greatest thing of the moment (until something inevitably better comes out), but there is absolutely no reason for those price points other than the foolishness of the industry for which they are being marketed to. Unfortunately, Canon has been bitten by that bug and we are seeing the same kind of inflated prices on the still photography side. There was no reason for the 5D Mark III to be that expensive. Heck Nikon had to buy components from other manufacturers for the D800 and yet they were able to keep the pricing lower. It saddens me to see Canon go down this road because it means that these kind of inflated prices may continue and thus become the norm for us still camera folks.
All this suggests to me is that Canon has gotten a taste of the ridiculous prices that people in the cinematography world are willing to pay and have become a money hungry entity. They don't innovate or revolutionize, they only capitalize. Yes I'm sure both camera will be heralded as the greatest thing of the moment (until something inevitably better comes out), but there is absolutely no reason for those price points other than the foolishness of the industry for which they are being marketed to. Unfortunately, Canon has been bitten by that bug and we are seeing the same kind of inflated prices on the still photography side. There was no reason for the 5D Mark III to be that expensive. Heck Nikon had to buy components from other manufacturers for the D800 and yet they were able to keep the pricing lower. It saddens me to see Canon go down this road because it means that these kind of inflated prices may continue and thus become the norm for us still camera folks.
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I use a 60D with EF-S 17 55 and EF 50 f/1.4. All the newer lenses and bodies have been priced out of my reach. 60D with magic lantern to me, is more useful than the 5D mk III. Id be willing to go up to $4500 for an EOS 1D. Ideal price would have been around $3000. I will leave the expensive toys for the rich boys/girls and rent out a Sony F3 kit or a Sony FS100 kit for less than $200 a day.
I use a 60D with EF-S 17 55 and EF 50 f/1.4. All the newer lenses and bodies have been priced out of my reach. 60D with magic lantern to me, is more useful than the 5D mk III. Id be willing to go up to $4500 for an EOS 1D. Ideal price would have been around $3000. I will leave the expensive toys for the rich boys/girls and rent out a Sony F3 kit or a Sony FS100 kit for less than $200 a day.
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Yup, it really is kinda ridiculous. However, historically, it probably has actually cost that much for a lot of the equipment. After all, if you're going to be releasing a full feature length big movie, you better have the image quality (what defines that is left up to the cinematographer & director) to back it up. And that means really great lenses, lots of very well built tripods, dolly's, lighting (continuous! no fancy strobes for video to freeze the motion), all the people who have spent years learning how to use it, and the organization to bring it all together.
So, while it would be really nice to see some prices come down for some of the stuff that seems like it's just a firmware update away, *cough*Magic Lantern*cough*, the reality is that the high margin stuff at the mid/high end is where they really want to be positioned. And to meet the tolerances expected, it will actually cost more to produce and ensure that nearly every single piece of equipment delivered meets the QA standards for that product.
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Yup, it really is kinda ridiculous. However, historically, it probably has actually cost that much for a lot of the equipment. After all, if you're going to be releasing a full feature length big movie, you better have the image quality (what defines that is left up to the cinematographer & director) to back it up. And that means really great lenses, lots of very well built tripods, dolly's, lighting (continuous! no fancy strobes for video to freeze the motion), all the people who have spent years learning how to use it, and the organization to bring it all together.
So, while it would be really nice to see some prices come down for some of the stuff that seems like it's just a firmware update away, *cough*Magic Lantern*cough*, the reality is that the high margin stuff at the mid/high end is where they really want to be positioned. And to meet the tolerances expected, it will actually cost more to produce and ensure that nearly every single piece of equipment delivered meets the QA standards for that product.
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Well, at least we know Canon won't go under anytime soon... Their profit may fall due to the strong Yen and other natural calamities, but they sure know how to recuperate their loss in profits. ;D Sony, OTOH, is seriously bleeding.
It should be pointed out the prices of 5D3 vs D800 are not necessarily the same in every part of the world. In S.E. Asia, the D800 costs about US$100 MORE than the 5D3.
DarkKnightNine said:
Well, at least we know Canon won't go under anytime soon... Their profit may fall due to the strong Yen and other natural calamities, but they sure know how to recuperate their loss in profits. ;D Sony, OTOH, is seriously bleeding.
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It should be pointed out the prices of 5D3 vs D800 are not necessarily the same in every part of the world. In S.E. Asia, the D800 costs about US$100 MORE than the 5D3.
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Quite interesting.
Wasn't the reason for (somewhat questionable for 1Ds owners) merging the 1D and 1Ds to keep the costs down?
Now a similarily "megapixeled" with only some more video capabilities the new camera doesn't make sense, isn't it? Instead of the 1D & the 1Ds we would have the 1Dx and the 1DC(inema), history repeated.
Wouldn't a high MP 1DxS made more sense?
Quite interesting.
Wasn't the reason for (somewhat questionable for 1Ds owners) merging the 1D and 1Ds to keep the costs down?
Now a similarily "megapixeled" with only some more video capabilities the new camera doesn't make sense, isn't it? Instead of the 1D & the 1Ds we would have the 1Dx and the 1DC(inema), history repeated.
Wouldn't a high MP 1DxS made more sense?
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