differences in color between Mark ii and Mark iii?

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mboss13 said:
Not sure what my business website link has to do with anybody on here. If I wanted to include it I would have in my profile.

I agree, it has fairly little to do with your original post. I just enjoy looking at photography, and find it's a great way to improve. I do however appreciate not everyone feels the same as me, and that's fair enough. All the best for the upcoming season!
 
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mboss13 said:
Not sure what my business website link has to do with anybody on here. If I wanted to include it I would have in my profile.

I agree, it has fairly little to do with your original post. I just enjoy looking at photography, and find it's a great way to improve. I do however appreciate not everyone feels the same as me, and that's fair enough. All the best for the upcoming season!

Thanks for understanding.

If we were perhaps in the member forum on PPA or other pro-paid forums(which we are no longer part of as it is not much better than free) I wouldn't mind, but in a public forum I feel better not posting my business links.
 
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mboss13 said:
CowGummy said:
mboss13 said:
Not sure what my business website link has to do with anybody on here. If I wanted to include it I would have in my profile.

I agree, it has fairly little to do with your original post. I just enjoy looking at photography, and find it's a great way to improve. I do however appreciate not everyone feels the same as me, and that's fair enough. All the best for the upcoming season!

Thanks for understanding.

If we were perhaps in the member forum on PPA or other pro-paid forums(which we are no longer part of as it is not much better than free) I wouldn't mind, but in a public forum I feel better not posting my business links.

Just a quick FYI, posting your link in as many places as possible helps your google ranking... Not saying you NEED to post because of that, just thought I would share that with you! :)
 
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It looks like if there is a web site and a business publicly promoted by it we are not going to see it or know further about it guys. The only sharing we got was the "panic" of a man with two 5DIIIs, 4 photos and a color problem that his eyes and customers would not tolerate. I think there were some very helpful and educational links posted for those that really wanted to learn about shifting color profiles. :) NEXT!
 
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This thread is a terrific example why a new member would give 2 (or 3) thoughts before asking anything here. Less than half reasonable responses with the remainder... let's say less than friendly at best. I was genuinely curious too, since it was pretty easy to see the purple tinge to his hair as described. Sure we got there in the end but the journey wasn't as nearly nice as it could have been.
 
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ctmike said:
This thread is a terrific example why a new member would give 2 (or 3) thoughts before asking anything here. Less than half reasonable responses with the remainder... let's say less than friendly at best. I was genuinely curious too, since it was pretty easy to see the purple tinge to his hair as described. Sure we got there in the end but the journey wasn't as nearly nice as it could have been.

+1

Post an inoccuous remark here and it is like being in the witness box
 
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It fascinates me that people will go on and on about how a mechanical device produces "wrong" coloring and not allow for the fact that our eyes don't have the capacity to replicate color consistently from person to person.

I suspect MBoss has the gift of Tetrachromacy (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tetrachromacy) a genetic condition that allows an unclear number of people to see a range of tints and hues not apparent to people who don't have this gift. Note: not being facetious about it being a "gift" when it comes to color photography, as it allows seeing banding and color casts that a non-tetrachromate can not see. However, it can be a curse when you are trying to correct for what the vast majority of people won't even perceive. I, for example, cannot see the purple cast in the hair, and prefer the skin tones of the original post example; in fact I see the skin tone of the Mk2 example as "wrong" in comparison.

We also process colors differently at a retinal level, and at a brain processing level. Talking about color as if there were absolute correct colors being reproduced in a digital photo is an interesting concept. Beyond the difference of tetrachromacy, as several people have also pointed out, variations in monitors, ambient light in the room where you are viewing the examples, and even the formula of the materials blended for your glasses lenses are going to shift colors.

Calibration tools really help. But, ultimately, like the OP admits, there is a level of personal preference for each photographer backed by their experience of how viewers/customers react that determines when colors are working. That's how a person who is "color blind" can still be a damn good photographer. Personally I've sold more "over saturated" landscapes than I'm comfortable with, but that has become the taste I've learned to work to. And yes, sorting the snark out from the sincere efforts to help resolve the original question was a pain, but ultimately I got several good links that made it worth reading the whole thing.
 
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The colors in the 5D Mark III are a substantial improvement on the 5D Mark II. This is after about 20 hours of comparison between the two on color reproduction which is important to me.

If you don't like the colors you can always correct them with a passport color checker.
 
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kballweg said:
It fascinates me that people will go on and on about how a mechanical device produces "wrong" coloring and not allow for the fact that our eyes don't have the capacity to replicate color consistently from person to person.

I suspect MBoss has the gift of Tetrachromacy (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tetrachromacy) a genetic condition that allows an unclear number of people to see a range of tints and hues not apparent to people who don't have this gift. Note: not being facetious about it being a "gift" when it comes to color photography, as it allows seeing banding and color casts that a non-tetrachromate can not see. However, it can be a curse when you are trying to correct for what the vast majority of people won't even perceive. I, for example, cannot see the purple cast in the hair, and prefer the skin tones of the original post example; in fact I see the skin tone of the Mk2 example as "wrong" in comparison.

We also process colors differently at a retinal level, and at a brain processing level. Talking about color as if there were absolute correct colors being reproduced in a digital photo is an interesting concept. Beyond the difference of tetrachromacy, as several people have also pointed out, variations in monitors, ambient light in the room where you are viewing the examples, and even the formula of the materials blended for your glasses lenses are going to shift colors.

Calibration tools really help. But, ultimately, like the OP admits, there is a level of personal preference for each photographer backed by their experience of how viewers/customers react that determines when colors are working. That's how a person who is "color blind" can still be a damn good photographer. Personally I've sold more "over saturated" landscapes than I'm comfortable with, but that has become the taste I've learned to work to. And yes, sorting the snark out from the sincere efforts to help resolve the original question was a pain, but ultimately I got several good links that made it worth reading the whole thing.

Like you I am probably trichromatic too (or my monitor is :P ) since I could not see the purple tinge either. I did see the iii to have a bit more magenta and the ii having a bit more green/yellow hue. Also on the dog toys on grass shot, iii looked more natural and ii looked like saturation +3. This can be set on the iii as well.... I also suspect his clients might not be tetrachromatic either but like the rest of us are drawn towards a more saturated image...
 
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I was wondering if the OP has 2 issues, one with saturation as a whole (outside pic) but is it possible that his headshot magenta / yellow tinge has something to do with CFL lighting? I ahve seen color shifts in te 5d3 under some CFL lights, I am sure other bodies will have their own behavioral issues...
 
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Christian_Stella said:
Good news, Canon just announced yet another firmware update only days after their last one!

Firmware Version 1.1.3 incorporates the following improvements and fixes.

1. Fixes a phenomenon where being in the proximity of the camera and an Internet-enabled device may cause the user to complain.
2. Fixes an Internet phenomenon where exposure metering may change when using the top LCD light in underground crypts or tombs. Under these circumstances, the camera will now simply play a sad violin song through the monaural speaker and shut off for 3 minutes.
3. Reduces the Nikon D800's DxO score to 62.
4. All picture profiles are fully updated and now personally approved by Ken Rockwell for their increased vividness.
5. New interactive menu screen that lets you choose why you are returning your camera before shipping it back to us.

Ha! Made me laugh. But you forgot one...

6. Adds metal spikes to the grip so no one complains about the camera not being sharp enough.
 
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