Disney Bans Selfie Sticks in its Theme Parks

neuroanatomist said:
TeT said:
it makes sense... ppl taking selfies are often enough oblivious of their surroundings (enough that it is noticeable in the right environment) the addition of a stick in their hands is dangerous.

http://college.usatoday.com/2015/06/19/utah-valley-university-installs-texting-lane/

They tried that in a city in China previously - the people that didn't use their cellphone walked in the assigned lane, the people paying attention to their cellphone were all over the place :)
 
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Mt Spokane Photography said:
Around 1966 or 1967, a 4 function calculator cost about $400 and was considered amazing. The next year, TI and HP came out with scientific calculators and ignited a war about which was better, RPN or Algebraic entry of formulas. I'll bet there is still some who will argue today. I bought a TI SR 50, but also have had several HP RPN calculators. Like DSLR's, I can use either one, its getting the job done that counts.

There was never really any argument about RPN vs algebraic! Anyone.......anyone...... :)
 
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Speaking of the future...

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tpatana said:
CanonFanBoy said:
While I'm not nearly as old as Mt. Spokane Photography ;D... I can remember the days when taking a photo of oneself was considered weird. One would be considered conceited or self-absorbed.

Well, most of us carry a device in our pocket that's smaller than a cigarette box, battery powered and would have been considered super computer some 30 years ago, capable of accessing all the information in the world. And all we do with those is watch cat videos or post pictures of food we are about to eat.

30 years ago if you told people that, you would have received nice soft room and a shirt with long sleeves.

Times surely change.

I love it!

Would the reason one would be locked up be because...

a) Sci Fi technology like that is unthinkable

or

b) Unthinkable that mankind would have such technology and waste it away on cat videos
;)
 
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Re: ...the original Disney Selfie Stick Thread Got Hijacked...So...

AcutancePhotography said:
You might start by typing in Disney photography policy into the googles and one of the first hits gives you a list of what you can't bring into the park. ;D

Too much work. I want to know the answer, too. Can you post it here? Unless the thread gets hijacked first, that is...
 
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sanj said:
I think that besides being a safety issue, it would also reducing the photo sales of people. The photos people buy when the ride is over.

no; its just the stick not the selfie...

at Disney it is akin to driving and texting.... some of the articles and selfie stick complaints are very pointed...
 
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Re: ...the original Disney Selfie Stick Thread Got Hijacked...So...

neuroanatomist said:
AcutancePhotography said:
You might start by typing in Disney photography policy into the googles and one of the first hits gives you a list of what you can't bring into the park. ;D

Too much work. I want to know the answer, too. Can you post it here? Unless the thread gets hijacked first, that is...

You can't bring tripods / monopods that don't fit into a normal backpack
 
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Don Haines said:
and yes, you have access to all the info in the world.....

If you think you have "access" to all the information in the world, you're living in a very, very small world.

If you honestly believe you have access to every piece of information in the world, let me know. I'll pose a few simple questions that will disabuse you of that naive notion.
 
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Having information available, then finding it, then reading it, then understanding it... that makes for a whole lot of steps where things can go wrong...

And then, the psychological aspects come to play...

http://www.apa.org/pubs/journals/releases/xge-0000070.pdf

distant.star said:
Don Haines said:
and yes, you have access to all the info in the world.....

If you think you have "access" to all the information in the world, you're living in a very, very small world.

If you honestly believe you have access to every piece of information in the world, let me know. I'll pose a few simple questions that will disabuse you of that naive notion.
 
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distant.star said:
Don Haines said:
and yes, you have access to all the info in the world.....

If you think you have "access" to all the information in the world, you're living in a very, very small world.

If you honestly believe you have access to every piece of information in the world, let me know. I'll pose a few simple questions that will disabuse you of that naive notion.

come on now.... you know it's a figure of speech......

and besides, it gives me access to this forum.... and this form has Neuro on it..... therefore it has access to all the info in the world :)

let's not take ourselves too seriously eh?
 
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Mt Spokane Photography said:
Don Haines said:
distant.star said:
tpatana said:
Well, most of us carry a device in our pocket that's smaller than a cigarette box, battery powered and would have been considered super computer some 30 years ago, capable of accessing all the information in the world.

The character, Virgil, in the 1974 movie "The Apprenticeship of Duddy Kravitz" said it best...

"That's a falsehood."

I used to use the UNB mainframe.... at one time it was the third most powerful computer in Canada.... It processed 32 bit instructions at one million instructions per second and had 200 Megabytes of online disk and tape storage.... that's not enough computing power to play an mpeg song....

The most powerful computer in Canada was a Cray 1 supercomputer.... 64 bit processor and capable of executing 80 MILLION instructions per second.... and it had 8 Megabytes of memory! It only weighed in at 11,000 pounds and sucked back 120 amps 3-phase at 600 volts/phase..... now THAT was a computer!

My ipad has a 3 core 64 bit processor that runs at 1.5Ghz, 6 Megabytes of on-chip cache.... and an 8 core GPU thrown in as well.... and 128Gbytes of storage.... over 100 times the computing power of that Cray 1 super-computer.... 16,000 times as much memory.... and it's a phone.... and it's a camera.... and it runs all day on battery..... and yes, you have access to all the info in the world.....

And yet, the cray might still run circles around it doing the job it was intended for. Iiphone and the like is fast because its ultra specialized, the cray could do math at crazy speeds. I remember when we got ours for aerodynamic computations and simulations.

I tool programming lessons on a pdp 8, throwing switches to set the program into the memory, and then learning to do a bootstrap loader to load the program via punched tape from a teletype machine. My first computer was a Atari 400 that I bought for my son, but used it myself too. When the IBM PC's came out, I bought a clone and learned that Dos was basically a Unix clone. Then next PC I built myself, and did that for many more years. At one early point, our not so computer savy boss bought a hundred or so HP150 pc's, intending to run them from a HP mini computer that he also bought. It was a disaster, but he did not have money left to buy software for the individual machines. Eventually, we talked him into buying Macs and PC's. We managed to get a Lisa which was a beautiful machine and precursor to the Macintosh.
Ah yes.... the good old days... toggling in the bootstrap loader on a pdp 8.... paper tapes, OMR's, keypunches... wire-wrapping high density memory cards with 2102's.... programming in machine language... My friend, we are getting old...

BTW, my TRS-80 pocket computer still works.... if only I could get photoshop to run on it......
 
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and back to topic.....

There have been several cases where people have tripped over tripods..... that's probably why they are often banned... there is a fear that they will get in the way in the case of an emergency.

Likewise, there have been cases where people have bumped someone else's selfie stick and fights have erupted.... but it is a rare occasion... unfortunately, with the internet, everyone hears about these things and over reacts....

Personally, I have never been told not to use a tripod or monopod, but I have been asked to move off to the side where I am not in the way. In a crowded area such as Disney world having a ban on them makes sense as there will be an awful lot of people wandering around not paying close attention to where they are stepping. To my mind, selfie sticks are a continuation of the same logic.
 
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This new ban is in response to specific incidents. Selfie sticks have been prohibited on rides for some time, but people were still (attempting) using them while on rides in motion. This has caused situations that would endanger people, and they have therefore taken the additional step of just banning them from the park.

It is definitely safety related, not revenue related.
 
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that1guyy said:
Ban them on the rides not the park itself. I don't use them myself but it seems wrong to ban them outright.

How are is the park officials going to ban sticks on the rides, when it is allowed to carry them in the park? It is not like they are going to stop the ride in the middle.

This is another case of a subgroup of people ruining it for everyone else. If people could use selfie sticks responsibly, there probably would not be a problem with them.

When making public safety policy, you have to put it at the lowest denominator. Anyone who works in the safety industry understand just how low that denominator is when dealing with the public.
 
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