DPReview: Canon EOS 6D Reviewed

[Hobby Shooter]

I notice a pattern with the 5DIII and 6D:

Canon introduces the camera, the internets light up with complaints (too expensive, not enough improvement, features "crippled" etc. etc.)

Then the camera finally hits the users' hands and within about three months the complaints start to melt away as real users get hands on experience.

Turns out the only legitimate complaint about the 5DIII seems to have been the cost. But, the market is fixing that.

It now appears that 6D users are pleasantly surprised at how good this camera is for the price and how close it is to the 5DIII in the area that counts (the quality of the images).

As someone who is anxiously waiting to see what they do with the 7DII, I'm now expecting two things to happen. First, whatever Canon produces will cause all sorts of trolling on the internets from the usual suspects and, Second, once the 7DII is out for a few months, real users will be impressed with what a solid performer it turns out to be.

I guess it's the dynamics of an online forum. But I would argue that we still see a lot of complaining about the 5D3 so some of these trolls must be very persistent.

 

[tortilla]

As someone who is anxiously waiting to see what they do with the 7DII, I'm now expecting two things to happen. First, whatever Canon produces will cause all sorts of trolling on the internets from the usual suspects and, Second, once the 7DII is out for a few months, real users will be impressed with what a solid performer it turns out to be.

And finally it will be considered as what it is: a decent camera. That's Rogers law: http://www.lensrentals.com/blog/2013/01/rogers-law-of-new-product-introduction

 

[Marsu42]

And finally it will be considered as what it is: a decent camera.

All current dlsrs are "decent", imho it's only about "value", i.e. performance vs. price - and since the price curve is unpredictable (see 5d3 price drop) imho it isn't as easy as the previous posts above or the (humorous!) lens rentals article suggest.

Esp. with the rather "basic" feature set of the 6d the price is a main component, while the 5d3 with better specs and esp. the af system will keep being "really" decent for a long time to come but the 6d will be more quickly regarded as "only" decent since it's mostly the previous 5d2 generation tech. That won't hinder me from buying a 6d, but I'm aware of the 5d3/6d difference.

 

[unfocused]

As someone who is anxiously waiting to see what they do with the 7DII, I'm now expecting two things to happen. First, whatever Canon produces will cause all sorts of trolling on the internets from the usual suspects and, Second, once the 7DII is out for a few months, real users will be impressed with what a solid performer it turns out to be.

And finally it will be considered as what it is: a decent camera. That's Rogers law: http://www.lensrentals.com/blog/2013/01/rogers-law-of-new-product-introduction

That's great. Leave it to Roger to cut through all the bull and get right to the heart.

 

[t.linn]

I would not be posting except for CR's comment about the AF. I've found the improved AF of the 5D3 has expanded the type of subject matter that I shoot. For me, it is a revolutionary improvement. I could not go back to my 5D2—ever. To be clear, my point is not to denigrate the 6D but rather to provide an alternative viewpoint to CR's "it's better but it doesn't really matter" view on the 5D3's AF.

Having said that, I have to chime in with the subsequent poster who lamented Canon's pathetic DR limitations on all its DSLR's. Canon has stood still in this critical area of IQ while Sony (and thus Nikon) has lapped them several times over. It is completely appropriate that we, Canon customers, share our disappointment. Part of getting this message to Canon is getting it to others who may not be aware of just how much better other sensors are in this regard.

 

[Hobby Shooter]

I guess it's the dynamics of an online forum. But I would argue that we still see a lot of complaining about the 5D3 so some of these trolls must be very persistent.

Fair criticism of a Camera is not "trolling" any more than fair praise of a camera. It is being rational. Fanboys on the other hand, are seldom rational. So lets quit calling people names.

-h

I think you know that I didn't mean fair criticism and I didn't call people names here.

At least I haven't seen someone shouting out: 'That's it, I'm moving to Nikon' for a while, maybe that means they finally did.

 

[Hobby Shooter]

As someone who is anxiously waiting to see what they do with the 7DII, I'm now expecting two things to happen. First, whatever Canon produces will cause all sorts of trolling on the internets from the usual suspects and, Second, once the 7DII is out for a few months, real users will be impressed with what a solid performer it turns out to be.

And finally it will be considered as what it is: a decent camera. That's Rogers law: http://www.lensrentals.com/blog/2013/01/rogers-law-of-new-product-introduction

That's great. Leave it to Roger to cut through all the bull and get right to the heart.

Great stuff. Where is the 5D3 now? Has it reached the point where it is a useful tool yet? What about the 6D?

 

[AvTvM]

At least I haven't seen someone shouting out: 'That's it, I'm moving to Nikon' for a while, maybe that means they finally did.

Well, if I would move to full-frame, I would definitely move to Nikon D800. Not for the megapixels. For DR and image quality at +2 EV compared to anything from Canon shy of 5000 Euro.

And I will happily repeat, that the 6D is a poor piece of crap, a warmed-over 5D2, without any real advantage as far as sensoran d IQ is concerned. And with an AF-System that is only really suitable to "central-AF point users". A Canon marketing-cripple all around.

 

[Marsu42]

And I will happily repeat, that the 6D is a poor piece of crap, a warmed-over 5D2, without any real advantage as far as sensoran d IQ is concerned.

The 6d has less banding, a problem that seems to have plagued a lot of 5d2 shooters, and Nikon only has more dr in low iso. That doesn't make the 6d a more innovative camera - but without putting too much a fine point on it, I don't think you'll let facts stand in the way of your opinion anyway.

 

[BrettS]

And I will happily repeat, that the 6D is a poor piece of crap, a warmed-over 5D2, without any real advantage as far as sensoran d IQ is concerned.

The 6d has less banding, a problem that seems to have plagued a lot of 5d2 shooters, and Nikon only has more dr in low iso. That doesn't make the 6d a more innovative camera - but without putting too much a fine point on it, I don't think you'll let facts stand in the way of your opinion anyway.

+1

 

[J.R.]

And I will happily repeat, that the 6D is a poor piece of crap, a warmed-over 5D2, without any real advantage as far as sensoran d IQ is concerned.

The 6d has less banding, a problem that seems to have plagued a lot of 5d2 shooters, and Nikon only has more dr in low iso. That doesn't make the 6d a more innovative camera - but without putting too much a fine point on it, I don't think you'll let facts stand in the way of your opinion anyway.

+1 ... Apart from the AF, there is very little I don't like about the 6D. It is a great camera!

In fact I find it amazing that some people who have never ever shot with a FF come out denouncing the 6D citing DR while they are perfectly happy with their APS-C cameras. If you want to jump ship, please do so and do it right now what's the point in moaning?

Personally I've not found the 5d3 or the 6d's lack of DR limiting my shots (maybe its just me). More DR is most certainly welcome, but simply because a camera doesn't allow recovery of x number of stops doesn't make the Canon cameras 'crap' as suggested. ETTR and you'll be just fine.