DxOMark scores for 5DMkIII out - total score 81, 5DMkII had 79

[Canon Rumors]

There are two sites I will never link again, and one of them is DXO.

Numbers tests really bother me, because other people will use the DXO software and get completely different results. There will also be a range of results if someone is using Imatest. I've also seen the same person run DXO and Imatest and get different results.

The other issue is how they weight their score. By the looks of things, during the D3/D700 days, ISO performance was the major stat that that weighted the "total score", now it appears they weight it to dynamic range.

I've honestly wondered at times if anyone that does numbers testing like this has actually taken a photograph and looked at it with their eyes. The D800 is NOT a better high ISO performer, even if you down rez the D800 files, the 5D3 trumps it.

I've talked to 3 folks that do this type of testing independently, and all 3 agreed above ISO 800, the 5D3 is the clear winner in dynamic range, but the D800 beats the 5D3 at lower ISO.

These tests serve nothing positive to the community. If the 5D3 had a score of 291, I still wouldn't post it on the site.

 

[dswatson83]

I expected DR to be worse than the Nikon but it should be better than the Mark II. How can they really say the D800 is the low light sports king with a straight face

 

[PhilDrinkwater]

Re: DX0 Mark Canon 5D MkIII Review

So on the graphs you can see significant improvements in nearly all areas except low ISO DR and it gains "two points"?

I think at this point I have to question DxO's system.. or their bias..

 

[Chewy734]

Ouch... so the 5D3 has worse DR with the better sensor than the 5D2? Something is wrong with their tests. Additionally, there is no way the D800 trumps the 5D3 at higher ISO, in terms of noise. Every test I've personally done with those two cameras shows the 5D3 has less noise than the D800 at higher ISO.

 

[Canon Rumors]

The news broke on Nikon Rumors before it did here lol.
http://nikonrumors.com/2012/04/19/dxomark-verdict-nikon-d800-95-canon-5d-mark-iii-81.aspx/

It was actually on this forum before Nikon Rumors, I just won't link DXO.

 

[MattBicePhotography]

Re: DX0 Mark Canon 5D MkIII Review

canon rumors is making me bonkers right now...I can't keep myself from reading this out of boredom and I just get frustrated with all these threads. I have a 5d3, I had a 5d2 and a 5d1. I can say this camera is absolutely #%$^*%* amazing!!!

There is one test DxO fails to do, and is of great importance, Finished results!! Look through the d800/5d3 groups on flickr....what do you see?....I see pictures that look a lot better regardless of sharpness, MP, or DR. They just "look" better. It is this vary reason I switched from Nikon to Canon after having originally shot with the first digital rebel. I switched to nikon for my second camera because I liked the features and it seemed like a better camera. But as time wore on I just couldn't help but notice all the photos I truly enjoyed, were all off of Canons for the most part.

 

[JayOhh]

Re: DX0 Mark Canon 5D MkIII Review

They've got to be kidding me. DxO is a joke. Theres no way that low light spec is real which puts all of their other specs invalid to me as well. I can't believe people actually rely on them for specs.

 

[marekjoz]

There are two sites I will never link again, and one of them is DXO.

Numbers tests really bother me, because other people will use the DXO software and get completely different results. There will also be a range of results if someone is using Imatest. I've also seen the same person run DXO and Imatest and get different results.

The other issue is how they weight their score. By the looks of things, during the D3/D700 days, ISO performance was the major stat that that weighted the "total score", now it appears they weight it to dynamic range.

I've honestly wondered at times if anyone that does numbers testing like this has actually taken a photograph and looked at it with their eyes. The D800 is NOT a better high ISO performer, even if you down rez the D800 files, the 5D3 trumps it.

I've talked to 3 folks that do this type of testing independently, and all 3 agreed above ISO 800, the 5D3 is the clear winner in dynamic range, but the D800 beats the 5D3 at lower ISO.

These tests serve nothing positive to the community. If the 5D3 had a score of 291, I still wouldn't post it on the site.

So DXO is the forbidden term now? Should we spell it D..O? ;D
First K..n Ro..ell and now D..O.

 

[jimmylazers]

Re: DX0 Mark Canon 5D MkIII Review

Just to reiterate the gulf/chasm/etc:

 

[Canon Rumors]

So DXO is the forbidden term now? Should we spell it D..O? ;D
First K..n Ro..ell and now D..O.

haha, no you can still talk about them. I just want people to know I don't support this type of marketing by DXO.

I realize some may disagree with me on this topic, just trying to "keep it real".

 

[JayOhh]

Re: DX0 Mark Canon 5D MkIII Review

And let me guess the new Nikon D3200 will score better than the 5D Mark III too.

 

[RuneL]

Re: DX0 Mark Canon 5D MkIII Review

I never gave two S___s about any DxO-results, real world is interesting, what your eyes see, not some technocratic bullS___ that has little connection to reality.

 

[psolberg]

Wow I was expecting a close result but the 5D3 gets DESTROYED by the D800. Canon needs a LOT of work in the low ISO/high DR department. In particular the low ISO banding issues.

 

[Fab_Angilletta]

According to these scores 5DIII is not even better than D3/D700 (except for color depth)

Btw I don't understand why DxO is being flamed here?? Why would they rate 5DIII any lower than it really is?
Canon clearly failed this round.

 

[Chewy734]

The 5D3 has the same DR as the 7D, which is worse than the Sony Nex series?

Will that mean that the 1D X, Canon's flagship professional camera, will have a DR similar to the 3-year old 7D?

 

[EYEONE]

Re: DX0 Mark Canon 5D MkIII Review

I can't help but chime in. I don't have both cameras so I can't really do any test. The only side by side comparison I've seen is high ISO jpg/RAW and I don't understand how the D800 makes it that much better in that area. I'm not calling bias on DxO's part either.

I just don't understand it. Is it an error in their procedure? Or does the down sampling affect the numbers? Or is a small pixel's noise less noticeable to the test? I would like an explanation on this.

 

[ippikiokami]

So I expect everyone that takes DXO as the bible to buy one of these cameras in the near future. Their DXO scores are all rated the same or better than the 5d3

d3 (Mp a little low for me.. Should definitely be for all those than complain that the 22 in the 5d3 isn't enough)
nex7 (Again. Roight... if the NEX 7 is the kind of camera that suits your needs why are you even considering a regular DSLR)
k5 (Ummmm No Comment but according to DXO mark ! It's a better Sensor!!!)
d3s (Mp a little low for me.. Should definitely be for all those than complain that the 22 in the 5d3 isn't enough)
d3x (Have you seen the high iso pics??)
d4 (Another if you are looking for a camera like this then the 5d3 class shouldn't be something you are comparing to)

And then it comes down to the
d800 It's supposed to be the best sensor EVER but give me a 5d3 file in higher iso anyday.. I was seriously considering jumping to the d800 for AF purposed (before I tried the 5d3 AF). And I do, do a lot of studio work so the extra mp would be great. But looking at examples from around the web of high iso on the D800, even from very established photographers. I was not happen with it. You can tell me that if you do this and that to the file it'll look the same or better... But when I shoot high iso there are usually gigs that involve a sizable amount of pictures. That extra time to get it to look the SAME or just a little better than a 5d3 file.. Totally a waste

Also after buying. Let us know exactly what about the camera you buy is better than the 5d3

 

[MattBicePhotography]

Re: DX0 Mark Canon 5D MkIII Review

Someone on here said it best, "When all this hype has died down in two years 90% of pros will be shooting with the 5D3 over the D800, just like the 5D2 over and D700 and all Canon over Nikons"

 

[hoghavemercy]

According to these scores 5DIII is not even better than D3/D700 (except for color depth)

Btw I don't understand why DxO is being flamed here?? Why would they rate 5DIII any lower than it really is?
Canon clearly failed this round.

Sorry dude, not fake : http://www.dxomark.com/index.php/Cameras/Camera-Sensor-Database/Canon/EOS-5D-Mark-III

Better ISO score was kinda expected (way higher actually) but I'm very very dissapointed with ALL the scores and ofcourse the overall score...

And they dare to ask $500 more than D800 for this crap with no improvements over the 5DII.

Now lets see how bad 1DX will suck compared to D4, lol even to D3s...

GJ Canon, thanks for stealing our money!


ps: Don't flame me for whining, open your eyes and see that Canon is the one to blame here!

troll on over to your Nkon buddies!!

 

[JayOhh]

Re: DX0 Mark Canon 5D MkIII Review

Someone on here said it best, "When all this hype has died down in two years 90% of pros will be shooting with the 5D3 over the D800, just like the 5D2 over and D700 and all Canon over Nikons"

8) Enough Said.