Dynamic range Nikon/Sony vs Canon

David Hull said:
He is pretty well known over there as well.

Yes, an interesting read over at DP Review, Thanks for pointing that out, sort of confirms what was thought, at least what I suspected.

Tends towards sadness though, poor chap hasn't learnt anything, and it must be awfully confusing for the Lad, I mean, what does he call himself next ?? Darth ??
 
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David Hull said:
Sporgon said:
David Hull said:

;D ;D

Well spotted, that is hilarious.

But what is even more funny is that if you read the replies on his thread he got no sympathy at all from the dpreview crowd ! ;D

He is pretty well known over there as well.
Some like to Debate, its a sport. If you ever agree with them, they will reverse and switch sides. Eventually, this can get under your skin and it degrades a forum.

I'm really surprised that he's still on DPR, they have been really quick to issue bans on many occasions for seemingly minor things.
 
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ajfotofilmagem said:
It seems that "you know who" miss the heated discussions we had in CR. ::) Does "who should not pronounce the name," would be happy to NikonRumors with multiple users sharing their opinions? :o

I think opinions are welcome here, particularly those rationally backed up. Bashing those who do not agree with you - not so much. Its a human tendency to defend your territory, but going overboard is the issue.
 
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Sporgon said:
David Hull said:

;D ;D

Well spotted, that is hilarious.

But what is even more funny is that if you read the replies on his thread he got no sympathy at all from the dpreview crowd ! ;D
So no respect for the president ? :o :o :o

Haven't you seen his signature?

Member of Swedish Photographers Association since 1984
Canon, Hasselblad, Leica,Nikon, Linhoff, Sinar
President of IARNA International anti-banding and read out noise Association

;D ;D ;D
 
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Mt Spokane Photography said:
I think opinions are welcome here, particularly those rationally backed up. Bashing those who do not agree with you - not so much. Its a human tendency to defend your territory, but going overboard is the issue.
I agree. As was pointed out on his DPR thread, the real issue was not really what he said, but how he said it. Many people here, myself included, repeatedly agreed with him that Canon sensors have less low ISO DR than other brands. Apparently, that wasn't good enough, because we also questioned the impact of that difference, and pointed out that the sensor is only one component of a camera, and for many people, other aspects of system performance are of greater importance.

David Hull said:
Fun read. ::)

I enjoyed the irony that he mentions 'religion' but denies having an 'agenda' and being on a 'crusade'....and yet he has signed up with new accounts on CR at least eight times (that have been obvious enough for me to notice, anyway) in just the past three weeks, posting a couple or a couple dozen times before moving to a new name (presumably due to repeated bans). If that's not a crusade, what is? IIRC, two of those new sign ups occurred after he started his DPR rant, which begs the question...if CR is such a 'joke', why is he trying so desperately to continue posting here?
 
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neuroanatomist said:
why is he trying so desperately to continue posting here?

May be covered in some degree by the words of Sir Arthur Conan Doyle.

"Mediocrity knows nothing higher than itself, but Talent instantly recognises Genius"

I think perhaps he likes to think he falls into the second part when looking into a Mirror, unfortunately the first part pretty well covers things.
 
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Many of these trolls unfortunately suffer from Aspergers.

"Asperger Syndrome is a developmental disorder. People with AS don’t have cognitive or language deficits. (If they do, they’re diagnosed with autism.) But they do have a difficult time interacting, communicating and connecting with others. They’re unable to pick up on social cues."

I have come across another forum baiter with similar characteristics: the constant need to push his opinion; obsessiveness; goad others; and sign himself as belonging to some official organization that he thinks somehow adds credence to him.
 
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abcde12345 said:
What's going on here? Sorry but I'm kind of new around here. :-X
This topic was started by a citizen unsocial, who was kicked several times in this forum, for misconduct. He always comes back with different names, but when he make your comments, we soon discovered it was the same person, because of their "modus operandi". He comes to a forum on Canon equipment, and tries to convince everyone that Canon has the worst camera in the world, and fight fiercely with those who do not agree with their opinions.
 
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ajfotofilmagem said:
abcde12345 said:
What's going on here? Sorry but I'm kind of new around here. :-X
This topic was started by a citizen unsocial, who was kicked several times in this forum, for misconduct. He always comes back with different names, but when he make your comments, we soon discovered it was the same person, because of their "modus operandi". He comes to a forum on Canon equipment, and tries to convince everyone that Canon has the worst camera in the world, and fight fiercely with those who do not agree with their opinions.
Ah.. That explains it. All his posts seem to be gone! Too bad.
 
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neuroanatomist said:
I enjoyed the irony that he mentions 'religion' but denies having an 'agenda' and being on a 'crusade'....and yet he has signed up with new accounts on CR at least eight times (that have been obvious enough for me to notice, anyway) in just the past three weeks, posting a couple or a couple dozen times before moving to a new name (presumably due to repeated bans). If that's not a crusade, what is? IIRC, two of those new sign ups occurred after he started his DPR rant, which begs the question...if CR is such a 'joke', why is he trying so desperately to continue posting here?

My favourite ironies were 'same old rhetoric' and 'anything new under the sun?'. Ok the last one may have been out of context but still very relevant to his single mindedness.

Being new here I found his posts interesting and enlightening at first but he became tiresome at always flogging the same issue and dragging threads off topic. I really only need to be told something once. When I chose my cameras it was about a combination of ergonomics, user interface, image quality etc and Canon offered the best overall environment. If I was choosing solely on DR then I would have chosen another brand.

Years ago I went to a Toyota car club dinner and it was easily the most boring night of my life. There was not the remotest interest from any member in talking anything but Toyota but at least in this forum there is still some room to look at what the other manufacturers are doing.
 
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neuroanatomist said:
Mt Spokane Photography said:
I think opinions are welcome here, particularly those rationally backed up. Bashing those who do not agree with you - not so much. Its a human tendency to defend your territory, but going overboard is the issue.
I agree. As was pointed out on his DPR thread, the real issue was not really what he said, but how he said it. Many people here, myself included, repeatedly agreed with him that Canon sensors have less low ISO DR than other brands. Apparently, that wasn't good enough, because we also questioned the impact of that difference, and pointed out that the sensor is only one component of a camera, and for many people, other aspects of system performance are of greater importance.

David Hull said:
Fun read. ::)

I enjoyed the irony that he mentions 'religion' but denies having an 'agenda' and being on a 'crusade'....and yet he has signed up with new accounts on CR at least eight times (that have been obvious enough for me to notice, anyway) in just the past three weeks, posting a couple or a couple dozen times before moving to a new name (presumably due to repeated bans). If that's not a crusade, what is? IIRC, two of those new sign ups occurred after he started his DPR rant, which begs the question...if CR is such a 'joke', why is he trying so desperately to continue posting here?

He's also in Nikonrumors still championing DR of D800. :)
 
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Very well put.

The other site called him a troll. May be. He seems to be OCD with a need to pursue his mission and the world to see him as the expert. But then what? Everyone sell our gear and get what he recommends? Something very wrong with him. Who would bother to get kicked off a site twice, and then carry the rant on at another site, where they are tiring of him? Very maladaptive behavior.

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AlanF said:
Many of these trolls unfortunately suffer from Aspergers.

"Asperger Syndrome is a developmental disorder. People with AS don’t have cognitive or language deficits. (If they do, they’re diagnosed with autism.) But they do have a difficult time interacting, communicating and connecting with others. They’re unable to pick up on social cues."

I have come across another forum baiter with similar characteristics: the constant need to push his opinion; obsessiveness; goad others; and sign himself as belonging to some official organization that he thinks somehow adds credence to him.
 
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Hi folks,
Aspergers syndrome is a real problem for both sufferers and family, a dear friend of my family decided that the prime minister was in danger from terrorists long before 9/11 when we were still dealing wih the IRA. As a teen he decided, after his letters went unacknowledged, to acquire the ingredients for a bomb and post it to downing street un-assembled I hasten to add. This naturally caused quite a problem for the whole family.

So if this person has Aspergers then we should feel sorry for him and his family, breaking his obsession wil take serious proffesional help.

Of course he may just be a tit! ;D

Cheers Graham.


AlanF said:
Many of these trolls unfortunately suffer from Aspergers.

"Asperger Syndrome is a developmental disorder. People with AS don’t have cognitive or language deficits. (If they do, they’re diagnosed with autism.) But they do have a difficult time interacting, communicating and connecting with others. They’re unable to pick up on social cues."

I have come across another forum baiter with similar characteristics: the constant need to push his opinion; obsessiveness; goad others; and sign himself as belonging to some official organization that he thinks somehow adds credence to him.
 
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And going even more down this road, a kid I know with Aspergers is not even told that he has a/any condition. I guess I don't know enough to make that call, but it seems to me that however good the techniques for allowing him to cope, to not even know that you have an issue seems just wrong.

Having said that, I can't imagine this kid being that much of a tit, on forums or otherwise.
 
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